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BUG: Squeak-3.10 VM and ubuntu

Markus Schlager-2
Hi Jan,

I do know, this is the wrong mailing-list for this issue. Maybe someone
could do me the favour and forward this mail to the VM mailing list.

Problem description:

When running squeak with a Squeak-3.10-VM (tested with 3.10-1 and
3.10-4) an ubuntu hardy, it is not possible to close squeak by closing the
squeak-window with Alt+F4 nor with the x-icon. It doesn't happen anything.
This is a real Problem when running Scratch on Linux, since this is the
only way to close a Scratch.

When will Squeak-3.10 get included into the ubuntu-repositories?
Squeak-3.9-VM doesn't handle unicode properly.

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Re: [Etoys] BUG: Squeak-3.10 VM and ubuntu

Bert Freudenberg
On 05.03.2009, at 19:40, Markus Schlager wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
> I do know, this is the wrong mailing-list for this issue.

Indeed. Why don't you bring this up on a Scratch forum?

> Maybe someone
> could do me the favour and forward this mail to the VM mailing list.
>
> Problem description:
>
> When running squeak with a Squeak-3.10-VM (tested with 3.10-1 and
> 3.10-4) an ubuntu hardy, it is not possible to close squeak by  
> closing the
> squeak-window with Alt+F4 nor with the x-icon. It doesn't happen  
> anything.

The VM was changed to not kill the image but send it a close event.  
John said he would handle that event in the next Scratch release. I  
pointed him to the relevant changeset from the Etoys image:

http://tinlizzie.org/updates/etoys/updates/1574WindowEvents-JMM-bf.cs

The other platforms' VMs were changed, too, although there the new  
behavior is optional.

The problem on X11 always was that it was too simple to accidentally  
quit Squeak. There was no confirmation dialog as on Windows, or a  
specific menu item as on the Mac. So I find the new behavior much safer.

> This is a real Problem when running Scratch on Linux, since this is  
> the
> only way to close a Scratch.

Some Scratch versions do have a quit button ...

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Re: [Etoys] BUG: Squeak-3.10 VM and ubuntu

Markus Schlager-2
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

> On 05.03.2009, at 19:40, Markus Schlager wrote:
[...]
>>
>> I do know, this is the wrong mailing-list for this issue.
>
> Indeed. Why don't you bring this up on a Scratch forum?
>

Sorry, I thought of it as an issue with the VM, not with the image, since
I experienced the same behavior with an ordinary Squeak-3.9-image as well.
I was not aware, that the Etoys-Image handles this event the right way.

>>
>> Problem description:
>>
>> When running squeak with a Squeak-3.10-VM (tested with 3.10-1 and
>> 3.10-4) an ubuntu hardy, it is not possible to close squeak by closing the
>> squeak-window with Alt+F4 nor with the x-icon. It doesn't happen anything.
>
> The VM was changed to not kill the image but send it a close event. John said
> he would handle that event in the next Scratch release. I pointed him to the
> relevant changeset from the Etoys image:
>
> http://tinlizzie.org/updates/etoys/updates/1574WindowEvents-JMM-bf.cs
>
> The other platforms' VMs were changed, too, although there the new behavior
> is optional.
>
> The problem on X11 always was that it was too simple to accidentally quit
> Squeak. There was no confirmation dialog as on Windows, or a specific menu
> item as on the Mac. So I find the new behavior much safer.

I fully agree with this.

>
>> This is a real Problem when running Scratch on Linux, since this is the
>> only way to close a Scratch.
>
> Some Scratch versions do have a quit button ...

Never seen any yet.


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