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Karl Ramberg

Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

I really like the Bitmap DejaVu sans font. I have basically all text displayed in size 9. That size i very readable and give I get enough text on screen to get a good workflow.

But I constantly miss punctuation because a full stop is like one pixel. And colon and semicolon are also very small.

To add to that there is very tight kerning around the punctuation marks.

It's easy to miss and it causes mild grief on my part.

With the high resolution of today's monitors I think a bigger size of these punctuation marks would be good.

Any thoughts ?

Karl

Chris Muller-3

Re: Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:57 PM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I really like the Bitmap DejaVu sans font. I have basically all text
> displayed in size 9. That size i very readable and give I get enough text on
> screen to get a good workflow.
>
> But I constantly miss punctuation because a full stop is like one pixel. And
> colon and semicolon are also very small.
> To add to that there is very tight kerning around the punctuation marks.
>
> It's easy to miss and it causes mild grief on my part.
>
> With the high resolution of today's monitors I think a bigger size of these
> punctuation marks would be good.
>
> Any thoughts ?

I've noticed that the period was pretty small for my eyes too.

It seems better in Accusf we could use that the fonts...?

Bert Freudenberg

Re: Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

In reply to this post by Karl Ramberg

On 03.06.2015, at 19:57, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

I really like the Bitmap DejaVu sans font. I have basically all text displayed in size 9. That size i very readable and give I get enough text on screen to get a good workflow.

But I constantly miss punctuation because a full stop is like one pixel. And colon and semicolon are also very small.
To add to that there is very tight kerning around the punctuation marks.

It's easy to miss and it causes mild grief on my part.

With the high resolution of today's monitors I think a bigger size of these punctuation marks would be good.

Any thoughts ?

Karl

I remember fixing this in one of my images. Can’t remember which one, unfortunately :(

- Bert -

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Karl Ramberg

Re: Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

A fix for this would be great.

My eye are getting worse by the day it feels like.

The bold punctuation of size 9 Bitmap DejaVu is much more legible.

Karl

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 03.06.2015, at 19:57, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

I really like the Bitmap DejaVu sans font. I have basically all text displayed in size 9. That size i very readable and give I get enough text on screen to get a good workflow.

But I constantly miss punctuation because a full stop is like one pixel. And colon and semicolon are also very small.
To add to that there is very tight kerning around the punctuation marks.

It's easy to miss and it causes mild grief on my part.

With the high resolution of today's monitors I think a bigger size of these punctuation marks would be good.

Any thoughts ?

Karl

+1

I remember fixing this in one of my images. Can’t remember which one, unfortunately :(

- Bert -

timrowledge

Re: Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

On 03-06-2015, at 3:11 PM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> A fix for this would be great.
> My eye are getting worse by the day it feels like.

Welcome to over-30-land. This is another reason we really ought to try to move away from predominantly pixel based graphics to vector based - scaling to suit the user needs works so much better. We have had the basic capability for at least a decade (remember ‘pooh’?) and now there is Nile to add to the mix.

tim
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Karl Ramberg

Re: Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

Yes, pixels in the retina type displays are truly tiny.

Pixels seem likely to become invisible by them self, kind of like an atom.

Gezira and Nile seem like a interesting display solution. I have not had any success compiling it for Windows though, so I have not been able to use it.

Karl

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:51 AM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 03-06-2015, at 3:11 PM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> A fix for this would be great.
> My eye are getting worse by the day it feels like.

Welcome to over-30-land. This is another reason we really ought to try to move away from predominantly pixel based graphics to vector based - scaling to suit the user needs works so much better. We have had the basic capability for at least a decade (remember ‘pooh’?) and now there is Nile to add to the mix.

tim
--
tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
Useful random insult:- He has a tenuous grip on the obvious.

Bert Freudenberg

Re: Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

In reply to this post by Bert Freudenberg

On 03.06.2015, at 23:40, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 03.06.2015, at 19:57, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

I really like the Bitmap DejaVu sans font. I have basically all text displayed in size 9. That size i very readable and give I get enough text on screen to get a good workflow.

But I constantly miss punctuation because a full stop is like one pixel. And colon and semicolon are also very small.
To add to that there is very tight kerning around the punctuation marks.

It's easy to miss and it causes mild grief on my part.

With the high resolution of today's monitors I think a bigger size of these punctuation marks would be good.

Any thoughts ?

Karl

+1

I remember fixing this in one of my images. Can’t remember which one, unfortunately :(

Ah, guess I misremembered even more. I fixed the punctuation in the large Palatino font in our Smalltalk-78 image … but for the same reasons.

- Bert -

smime.p7s (5K) Download Attachment

Karl Ramberg

Re: Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

Neither the eyes or the memory are like they were before ;-)

Thanks anyway,

Karl

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 03.06.2015, at 23:40, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 03.06.2015, at 19:57, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

I really like the Bitmap DejaVu sans font. I have basically all text displayed in size 9. That size i very readable and give I get enough text on screen to get a good workflow.

But I constantly miss punctuation because a full stop is like one pixel. And colon and semicolon are also very small.
To add to that there is very tight kerning around the punctuation marks.

It's easy to miss and it causes mild grief on my part.

With the high resolution of today's monitors I think a bigger size of these punctuation marks would be good.

Any thoughts ?

Karl

+1

I remember fixing this in one of my images. Can’t remember which one, unfortunately :(

Ah, guess I misremembered even more. I fixed the punctuation in the large Palatino font in our Smalltalk-78 image … but for the same reasons.

- Bert -

Karl Ramberg

Re: Bitmap DejaVu sans punktuation mark sizes

Juan has made a change for bigger punctuation in Cuis.

I does not translate easily to Squeak since Cuis does not use StrikeFontSet.

In Cuis, 'StrikeFont useRegularPunctuation' and 'StrikeFont useLargerPunctuation'.

The stuff is at #buildLargerPunctuation.

It is copying the punctuation marks from a larger font size

Best,

Karl

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

Neither the eyes or the memory are like they were before ;-)

Thanks anyway,
Karl

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 03.06.2015, at 23:40, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 03.06.2015, at 19:57, karl ramberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

I really like the Bitmap DejaVu sans font. I have basically all text displayed in size 9. That size i very readable and give I get enough text on screen to get a good workflow.

But I constantly miss punctuation because a full stop is like one pixel. And colon and semicolon are also very small.
To add to that there is very tight kerning around the punctuation marks.

It's easy to miss and it causes mild grief on my part.

With the high resolution of today's monitors I think a bigger size of these punctuation marks would be good.

Any thoughts ?

Karl

+1

I remember fixing this in one of my images. Can’t remember which one, unfortunately :(

Ah, guess I misremembered even more. I fixed the punctuation in the large Palatino font in our Smalltalk-78 image … but for the same reasons.

- Bert -