Bug on Bookmorph and a Question about Weasell Esay

Hi all,

This list has been a little silent these days (I thing that it is
because of the movement on the OLPC etoys mailing list). So let's move
the list a little :-).

I have been working with my students on Squeak and they have found a bug
on Bookmorph. When they create a book with markers (I think that is the
english translation for "señaladores") and export it as a pr file, when
they open it again the markers just simply vanished. I have probe this
with Extremadura's Squeak and with Squeakland and the behavior is the
same. In the last one I get this messages:

a SimpleButtonMorph (3606) that was not counted
a SimpleButtonMorph (992) that was not counted

I have attached the project.

Other thing is that some pr files looks fine in the firefox browser with
the squeak plugin:

http://superswikifr.ofset.org:8000/super/launcher?KedamaJeuVieDidac.001.pr

but others don't:

http://squeakland.org/project.jsp?http://users.info.unicaen.fr/~alardill/UE8/population.035.pr

and the squeak plugin just try to load the project with any success.

Finally I was trying to make an example of why squeak books are not
"like power point" using an active essay and I used the Weasel Essay on
evlution with mutation of characters. In this essay there are embedded
scripts in the pages of the stack that are different from what we're
used on "classical etoys". They look more like Tweak scripts. ¿There is
any pointer to documentation on that feature?

Thanks a lot,

Offray

A last question really (for the moment): Its possible to load BotsInc
environment on Squeakland's image?

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Hi, Offray,

Yes, this "bookmark" bug was reported a few weeks ago by an olpc  
tester; the fix is already in the olpc update stream, and will be  
included in the next batch of Squeakland updates, probably this week.

Thanks and cheers,

  -- Scott

PS: I attach a copy of the fix, in case you want to load it manually  
into an Extremadura image.





On Mar 25, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:

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Hi Scott,

Thanks for the quick response. I have loaded the change set in the
Squeakland image and it works like a charm, in the Extremadura image is
not working, (it seems that this image is not much maintained).... now
on the "philosophical" side  with the multiplicity of images raises a
question about "continuity"... In the Squeak 3.9 images is possible to
load something like the "toolbar" of Extremadura's image, in the OLPC
there is a lot of movement these days, Squeakland seems to have
interesting Tweak features to program and BotsInc seems a nice way to go
from etoys to Smalltalk.

There is a way to go from Squeakland to start using Squeakland, with the
Extremadura's toolbar (as in Squeak 3.9) and load the BotsInc
environment (or I'm asking too much) ?

Cheers,

Offray

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Thanks Scott --

Hello Offray --

On the other question about Weasel ... the
existing version was an experimental "active
essay" that Ted Kaehler and I did quite a few
years ago to experiment with the form and see
about a next level version of Etoys. We are in
the process of redoing this in the OLPC Etoys
version and will replace it "pretty soon".

Cheers,

Alan

CheersAt 01:00 PM 3/25/2007, Scott Wallace wrote:

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Hi Alan,

Thanks for your quick response. We're trying to develop content for the
OLPC, but having the aspect ratio of the OLPC small screen with high
resolution, makes that content created in other images to look strange
on OLPC (remember the Colombian Tale of the child's poet Rafael Pombo?).
At the same time I see that the toolbar of Extremadura Image, makes
things for Windows newcomers a little easier. And Bots Inc. seems a nice
bridge to follow from Etoys to Smalltalk (my university students are
delighted with it and his desire to learn more smalltalk is increasing).
Scratch and Croquet are also a breath of fresh air. So here come the
questions:

 * ¿Do you think that this change set for next level version of Etoys
will be compatible with Squeakland image?.
 * ¿It's possible to have a "toolbar" like the Extremadura's Squeak
image on the Squeakland image (like Squeak 3.9 does, but with full Etoys
support)?
 * ¿It's possible to install Bots Inc. on Squeakland image using
SqueakMap, Monticello or something ?
 * ¿It's possible to go from Scrath to Squeak(land) in the same image
(to take off the Scratch clothes and see the Squeak(land) underneath)?
 * ¿Would be possible to define something like an aspect ratio for the
Squeak image as a parameter, so we can create content for that aspect
ratio even from different images/screen sizes?

Sorry if they are too much questions... I'm feeling like the protagonist
of the Castaneda's book "Viaje a Itzlan" (Travel to Itzlan): After
tasting Squeak/Smalltalk even the place I left behind its not the
same... and knowing that the destiny of Squeak it's to make itself a
place to left behind it's inevitable to feel some sense of self
transcendence :).

Cheers,

Offray, thinking in "continuity of experience" in Squeak images.

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Hi

> * ¿It's possible to install Bots Inc. on Squeakland image using  
> SqueakMap, Monticello or something ?

Let me know if you need help.

Stef


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