Cryptography/SSH dependencies
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Hi all,
I wanted to take a look at the SSH package in the Cryptography repository http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography, but when I try to load it I get the following dependency issues: This package depends on the following classes: DuplexProtocolStackBottomCap ProtocolLayer HalfDuplexProtocol DuplexProtocolStackTopCap You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: ... Can someone tell me to which packages these classes belong and where to find them? I did not find a Metacello configuration for Cryptography. If somebody knows of one, I would also like to hear about that. Best regards, Jakob |
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Oh crap, that was my fault. I deleted the package ProtocolLayer from the repo and I cannot find it in any of my local backup code, from the past year. I had the dependency on that code in another project, which I collapsed into an older package. I will continue to look for those classes in that older package, but there have been many renames and repackages, so it will take some time. Totally my fault. I will try to resurrect it for you. Not that I am recommending you rewrite that code, if it comes to it I will try to do so. One thing you could do to see the code in-image, I have had to do before, is open a snapshot browser of SSH, go to the classes that depend on these classes and redefine as subclasses of Object, then load the instance and class protocols, all to get non-functional code into image to browse it. Of course, you would be interested in running the SSH code so I will do my best to extract these classes if I can find them for you to be successful. So sorry for mismanaging this. Rob Withers posting as Henry
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I lost that code, completely. I will work to implement inside of SSH and let you know as it progresses. It is the core framework for how these layers form a stack so this is a challenge. Big error in repo management! I had totally forgot that package, named ProtocolLayer, was used in SSH. It was used in SqueakELib, many moons ago. Damnation I screwed it all up. :( If by any chance there is a repo backup from several years ago, it may be there. That would be outstanding if it were found. To let you know that code has evolved inside of ParrotTalk and is now known as the ThunkRoot/ThunkLayer and ThunkStack. I will work to fix SSH, I am quite upset at myself for leaving you stranded. - HH
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Re: Cryptography/SSH dependencies
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> On 10.12.2017, at 20:19, henry <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I deleted the package ProtocolLayer from the repo In what way? Maybe we can resurrect. Best regards -Tobias |
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I went through the Squeak Source website and deleted all versions. I was mistaken in thinking I was only using it it SqueakElib some years ago and I deleted the package and all versions. I can't believe this. I found that package in an old package-cache of mine. It is called 'LayeredProtocol-rww.4.mcz'. Just my luck it is a file that is zero bytes in size. The old version I have is empty. :((( That is the name of the package, if in the oddest case of luck were someone to find it in a backup of some kind. I hope, but sort of skeptical about it. I will work to fix SSH. - HH
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Would it be possible that someone has an image with SSH loaded from several years ago? Then 'LayeredProtocol-rww.4.mcz' would be in that package-cache. Cross fingers. - HH
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Hi
> On 10.12.2017, at 20:55, henry <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Would it be possible that someone has an image with SSH loaded from several years ago? Then 'LayeredProtocol-rww.4.mcz' would be in that package-cache. Cross fingers. > > - HH There's dan% ls /srv/squeaksourcecom/SqueakSource/ss/Cryptography/LayeredProtocol-rww.1.mcz /srv/squeaksourcecom/SqueakSource/ss/Cryptography/LayeredProtocol-rww.1.mcz Still there. Any box-admin/squeaksource-admin, can you please resurrect? Presumably, the actual version only has been marked as deleted, so somebody with image access (Chris? David?) can unmark and make visible again. Best regards -Tobias > > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Cryptography/SSH dependencies >> Local Time: December 10, 2017 2:53 PM >> UTC Time: December 10, 2017 7:53 PM >> From: [hidden email] >> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <[hidden email]> >> The general-purpose Squeak developers list <[hidden email]> >> >> I went through the Squeak Source website and deleted all versions. I was mistaken in thinking I was only using it it SqueakElib some years ago and I deleted the package and all versions. >> >> I can't believe this. I found that package in an old package-cache of mine. It is called 'LayeredProtocol-rww.4.mcz'. Just my luck it is a file that is zero bytes in size. The old version I have is empty. :((( That is the name of the package, if in the oddest case of luck were someone to find it in a backup of some kind. I hope, but sort of skeptical about it. I will work to fix SSH. >> >> - HH >> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Cryptography/SSH dependencies >>> Local Time: December 10, 2017 2:50 PM >>> UTC Time: December 10, 2017 7:50 PM >>> From: [hidden email] >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <[hidden email]> >>> >>> >>> On 10.12.2017, at 20:19, henry [hidden email] wrote: >>> I deleted the package ProtocolLayer from the repo >>> >>> In what way? >>> Maybe we can resurrect. >>> Best regards >>> -Tobias >> > > |
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Alright, it is currently non-functional but this package will allow SSH to load into an image, at the very least. There is meat on the ProtocolLayer and ProtocolSession classes, but none on the HalfDuplexProtocol. Please load LayeredProtocol-rww.1, then load SSH. - HH
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In reply to this post by Tobias Pape
Yes, I just added that package to attempt to reconstitute its functionality for SSH and Jakob's exploration. It is non-functional, only structural so SSH loads. Now the fun to get it operational again. - HH
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Woot!!! I found the code. It is in SSL, thank GOd. Give me a few minutes to port to LayeredProtocol package. Hopefully it will work. - HH
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Not so much. Missing Teletype and VT102Emulator and other stuff. :( Sorry it is stale. RSAKey is missing as well. It has been a decade since I loaded it and worked with SSH. - HH
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Re: Cryptography/SSH dependencies
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Op 10-12-2017 om 20:53 schreef henry:
> I went through the Squeak Source website and deleted all versions. I was > mistaken in thinking I was only using it it SqueakElib some years ago > and I deleted the package and all versions. Retrospective question, perhaps for later: why delete publicized packages? There is no way to know if they are used, is there? Stephan |
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> On 10.12.2017, at 21:54, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Op 10-12-2017 om 20:53 schreef henry: >> I went through the Squeak Source website and deleted all versions. I was mistaken in thinking I was only using it it SqueakElib some years ago and I deleted the package and all versions. > > Retrospective question, perhaps for later: why delete publicized packages? There is no way to know if they are used, is there? yeah, that's why only admins can have delete permissions. > > Stephan > > |
Re: Cryptography/SSH dependencies
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is this any use?
http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/goodies/telnet.301.cs On 12/10/17 3:44 PM, henry wrote:
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There is no way to know and I mistakenly thought I only used this in SqueakELib, so I combined that code and then the deletion broke SSH, but I did not test, some years ago. SSH is broken for other reasons too. Those are fixable but the real loss
is Teletype and VT102Emulator. SSH has issues.
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Op 10-12-2017 om 20:53 schreef henry: > I went through the Squeak Source website and deleted all versions. I was > mistaken in thinking I was only using it it SqueakElib some years ago > and I deleted the package and all versions. Retrospective question, perhaps for later: why delete publicized packages? There is no way to know if they are used, is there? Stephan |
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> On 10.12.2017, at 22:39, henry <[hidden email]> wrote: > > There is no way to know and I mistakenly thought I only used this in SqueakELib, so I combined that code and then the deletion broke SSH, but I did not test, some years ago. SSH is broken for other reasons too. Those are fixable but the real loss is Teletype and VT102Emulator. SSH has issues. squeaksource does not delete just like that. A Site-admin surely can resurrect packages. best regards -tobias > > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 15:54, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Op 10-12-2017 om 20:53 schreef henry: > I went through the Squeak Source website and deleted all versions. I was > mistaken in thinking I was only using it it SqueakElib some years ago > and I deleted the package and all versions. Retrospective question, perhaps for later: why delete publicized packages? There is no way to know if they are used, is there? Stephan > |
Re: Cryptography/SSH dependencies
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In reply to this post by Bob Arning-2
Ian's Telnet package can also be loaded from the SqueakMap Package Loader.
Dave On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 04:38:12PM -0500, Bob Arning wrote: > is this any use? > > > http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/goodies/telnet.301.cs > > > On 12/10/17 3:44 PM, henry wrote: > >Not so much. Missing Teletype and VT102Emulator and other stuff. :( > >Sorry it is stale. RSAKey is missing as well. It has been a decade > >since I loaded it and worked with SSH. > > > >- HH > > > > > >>-------- Original Message -------- > >>Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Cryptography/SSH dependencies > >>Local Time: December 10, 2017 3:19 PM > >>UTC Time: December 10, 2017 8:19 PM > >>From: [hidden email] > >>To: Tobias Pape <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] > >><[hidden email]> > >>The general-purpose Squeak developers list > >><[hidden email]> > >> > >>Woot!!! I found the code. It is in SSL, thank GOd. Give me a few > >>minutes to port to LayeredProtocol package. Hopefully it will work. > >> > >>- HH > >> > >> > >>>-------- Original Message -------- > >>>Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Cryptography/SSH dependencies > >>>Local Time: December 10, 2017 3:10 PM > >>>UTC Time: December 10, 2017 8:10 PM > >>>From: [hidden email] > >>>To: Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> > >>>The general-purpose Squeak developers list > >>><[hidden email]> > >>> > >>>Yes, I just added that package to attempt to reconstitute its > >>>functionality for SSH and Jakob's exploration. It is non-functional, > >>>only structural so SSH loads. Now the fun to get it operational again. > >>> > >>>- HH > >>> > >>> > >>>>-------- Original Message -------- > >>>>Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Cryptography/SSH dependencies > >>>>Local Time: December 10, 2017 3:07 PM > >>>>UTC Time: December 10, 2017 8:07 PM > >>>>From: [hidden email] > >>>>To: henry <[hidden email]>, The general-purpose Squeak > >>>>developers list <[hidden email]> > >>>> > >>>>Hi > >>>> > >>>> On 10.12.2017, at 20:55, henry [hidden email] > >>>> <mailto:[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>> Would it be possible that someone has an image with SSH loaded > >>>> from several years ago? Then 'LayeredProtocol-rww.4.mcz' would > >>>> be in that package-cache. Cross fingers. > >>>> > >>>> * > >>>> HH > >>>> > >>>> There's > >>>> > >>>> dan% ls > >>>> /srv/squeaksourcecom/SqueakSource/ss/Cryptography/LayeredProtocol-rww.1.mcz > >>>> /srv/squeaksourcecom/SqueakSource/ss/Cryptography/LayeredProtocol-rww.1.mcz > >>>> > >>>> Still there. > >>>> Any box-admin/squeaksource-admin, can you please resurrect? > >>>> Presumably, the actual version only has been marked as > >>>> deleted, so somebody with image access (Chris? David?) can > >>>> unmark and make visible again. > >>>> > >>>> Best regards > >>>> -Tobias > >>>> > >>>> -------- Original Message -------- > >>>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Cryptography/SSH dependencies > >>>> Local Time: December 10, 2017 2:53 PM > >>>> UTC Time: December 10, 2017 7:53 PM > >>>> From: [hidden email] > >>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > >>>> [hidden email] > >>>> <mailto:[hidden email]> > >>>> The general-purpose Squeak developers list > >>>> [hidden email] > >>>> <mailto:[hidden email]> > >>>> I went through the Squeak Source website and deleted all > >>>> versions. I was mistaken in thinking I was only using it it > >>>> SqueakElib some years ago and I deleted the package and all > >>>> versions. > >>>> I can't believe this. I found that package in an old > >>>> package-cache of mine. It is called > >>>> 'LayeredProtocol-rww.4.mcz'. Just my luck it is a file that > >>>> is zero bytes in size. The old version I have is empty. > >>>> :((( That is the name of the package, if in the oddest case > >>>> of luck were someone to find it in a backup of some kind. I > >>>> hope, but sort of skeptical about it. I will work to fix SSH. > >>>> > >>>> * HH > >>>> > >>>> -------- Original Message -------- > >>>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Cryptography/SSH dependencies > >>>> Local Time: December 10, 2017 2:50 PM > >>>> UTC Time: December 10, 2017 7:50 PM > >>>> From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > >>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > >>>> [hidden email] > >>>> <mailto:[hidden email]> > >>>> On 10.12.2017, at 20:19, henry [hidden email] > >>>> wrote: > >>>> I deleted the package ProtocolLayer from the repo > >>>> In what way? > >>>> Maybe we can resurrect. > >>>> Best regards > >>>> -Tobias > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > |
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On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 10:53:03PM +0100, Tobias Pape wrote:
> > > On 10.12.2017, at 22:39, henry <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > There is no way to know and I mistakenly thought I only used this in SqueakELib, so I combined that code and then the deletion broke SSH, but I did not test, some years ago. SSH is broken for other reasons too. Those are fixable but the real loss is Teletype and VT102Emulator. SSH has issues. > > > squeaksource does not delete just like that. > A Site-admin surely can resurrect packages. > > best regards > -tobias I do not know how to un-delete packages, but for mcz files that still exist on the server, they can probably be reloaded by a Cryptography developer. 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In reply to this post by David T. Lewis
Thank you both for pointing me to Ian's work, from 2002. I was unable to find this in the SqueakMap Package Loader, but the .cs is informative. I have long wondered where the idea of a LayeredProtocol came from, which I adopted to my Duplex stack with up and down layers, and here it is. I am relieved to see it and I recall finding it. I am just very deficient in knowing how to use it with terminal emulation. I needed to add that to SSH, as that is the basis upon which SSH operates, as a terminal. I think I am going to readopt SSH, and perhaps SSL, onto the ThunkStack and ThuckLayers which I arrived at in ParrotTalk. So I will be separating the base code from ParrotTalk into a core library package upon which to base SSL, SSH and ParrotTalk (and ParrotOne). I apologize for having broke SSH, yet these changes will have to wait my completion of Raven in Java, so as to achieve Squeak and Java talking distributed objects. To bring Raven to Java I need to implement STON in Java, which is what I am focused on, at this time. As core classes cannot be extended in Java, I am piggybacking the STON encoding/decoding within the ASN.1 Type Hierarchy. I am stumped how to encode a Dictionary, and am challenged at this time with writing a sequence. My STON implementation is therefore within my ASN.1 library in Java. And so it goes... Regards, Henry
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