Cryptography in the main image and Plugins build for the VMs

> Hi all,
>
> I would like to propose that Cryptography be included as part of the image, by default.  As it stands now it is in the Cryptography repository, which most don't seem to know about or there are one-off copies that are developed separately.  David Shaffer has been stewarding a reintegration of these forks and ensuring the tests pass.  Everyone should be able to take advantage of the algorithms provided by the Cryptography package.
>
> Along the same lines, it would be a great help for the vm providers to include the CryptographyPlugins when they build a new vm.  I believe there are 3 plugins and they really ought to be build internally, since they are unchanging.
>
> I would like to hear what others think of the possibility of making this change.
>
> Thank you,
> Rob
>

>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to propose that Cryptography be included as part of the image,
> by default.  As it stands now it is in the Cryptography repository, which
> most don't seem to know about or there are one-off copies that are developed
> separately.  David Shaffer has been stewarding a reintegration of these
> forks and ensuring the tests pass.  Everyone should be able to take
> advantage of the algorithms provided by the Cryptography package.
>
> Along the same lines, it would be a great help for the vm providers to
> include the CryptographyPlugins when they build a new vm.  I believe there
> are 3 plugins and they really ought to be build internally, since they are
> unchanging.
>
> I would like to hear what others think of the possibility of making this
> change.
>
> Thank you,
> Rob
>
>
>

>
> Steve
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Rob Withers <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to propose that Cryptography be included as part of the
>> image,
>> by default.  As it stands now it is in the Cryptography repository, which
>> most don't seem to know about or there are one-off copies that are
>> developed
>> separately.  David Shaffer has been stewarding a reintegration of these
>> forks and ensuring the tests pass.  Everyone should be able to take
>> advantage of the algorithms provided by the Cryptography package.
>>
>> Along the same lines, it would be a great help for the vm providers to
>> include the CryptographyPlugins when they build a new vm.  I believe
>> there
>> are 3 plugins and they really ought to be build internally, since they
>> are
>> unchanging.
>>
>> I would like to hear what others think of the possibility of making this
>> change.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>

>
> On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 05:07:29AM -0400, Rob Withers wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Along the same lines, it would be a great help for the vm providers to
>> include the CryptographyPlugins when they build a new vm.  I believe
>> there
>> are 3 plugins and they really ought to be build internally, since they
>> are
>> unchanging.
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> With respect to the plugins (and I know this was discussed in earlier
> emails) can you please provide a link to the SqueakSource repository for
> the three plugins? We can add this to the VMMaker configuration map and
> to ConfigurationOfVMMaker so they will be easily loaded into VM
> development
> images.
>
> Assuming no legal issues, I would expect that the plugins can be included
> in future VM builds without difficulty (at the discretion of the platform
> maintainers of course). BTW, don't worry about internal versus external,
> that's a packaging issue, and if there is any concern about legal issues
> (real or imagined) it will probably be best to make them external modules
> for the benefit of folks who may be concerned about such things.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Miguel Enrique Cobá
> Martínez
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:10 AM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Cc: Squeak Crypto; Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] Cryptography in the main image
> andPlugins build for the VMs
>
> El jue, 08-07-2010 a las 16:50 -0700, Steve Wart escribió:
> > Given that cryptography still faces export restrictions, would this
> > cause problems for OSS distributions that want to include Squeak?
>
> This is not true. Every linux distro comes with strong security. Nobody
> cares about export restrictions. I have downloaded from kernel.org that
> is located in USA. No problem.
>
> But if that is your concern, then you only need to put the cryptography
> package in a server outside the USA (Europe would be fine) and problem
> solved.
>
> But, that export restrictions are a problem that was solved a decade
> ago.
>
> Cheers
> >
> > Also I'm not sure that people who want to minimize their image size
> > would benefit. Why can't Cryptography be easily loaded by people who
> > need it?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Rob Withers <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose that Cryptography be included as part of the
> image,
> > > by default.  As it stands now it is in the Cryptography repository,
> which
> > > most don't seem to know about or there are one-off copies that are
> developed
> > > separately.  David Shaffer has been stewarding a reintegration of
> these
> > > forks and ensuring the tests pass.  Everyone should be able to take
> > > advantage of the algorithms provided by the Cryptography package.
> > >
> > > Along the same lines, it would be a great help for the vm providers to
> > > include the CryptographyPlugins when they build a new vm.  I believe
> there
> > > are 3 plugins and they really ought to be build internally, since they
> are
> > > unchanging.
> > >
> > > I would like to hear what others think of the possibility of making
> this
> > > change.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Miguel Cobá
> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
>