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Ariel Feinerman-2
Hi all,

does anyone know how to allow cyrillic and other languages in Squeak 4.5?



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Re: Cyrilic fonts in Squeak

David T. Lewis
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:06:59AM +0300, Ariel Feinerman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> does anyone know how to allow cyrillic and other languages in Squeak 4.5?
>

I have no personal knowledge in this area, but I know that cyrillic fonts
have been supported in various Squeak versions, and I would expect that this
should be possible in the latest Squeak releases also. Try googling "squeak
cyrillic fonts", follow a few links and see if it helps.

Dave

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Re: Cyrilic fonts in Squeak

Bert Freudenberg

> On 21.05.2015, at 03:21, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:06:59AM +0300, Ariel Feinerman wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> does anyone know how to allow cyrillic and other languages in Squeak 4.5?
>>
>
> I have no personal knowledge in this area, but I know that cyrillic fonts
> have been supported in various Squeak versions, and I would expect that this
> should be possible in the latest Squeak releases also. Try googling "squeak
> cyrillic fonts", follow a few links and see if it helps.
When importing a TTF font we only import the latin glyphs to save space. I’m not exactly sure where in the code that is, but by adding the cyrillic code points it should just work. All the machinery is there.

Also, Nicolay’s Крестьянство SDK supports cyrillic fonts:

http://st.krestianstvo.org/web/en/download

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Re: Cyrilic fonts in Squeak

Ariel Feinerman-2
I istalled Free Type Plus like it was said in http://www.nat-geo.ru/planet/193798-posledniy-den-palmiry but nothing change. Then I load fonts with cyrillic support http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Download and https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts. I changed system fonts and all works well. I can see, the only problem is lack of needed fonts, so why the developers do not include them in the production image or at least distribute them with it? Smalltalk is excellent for child teaching but it is not good for children to study programming with ???? marks and installing fonts ;-) 








On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 21.05.2015, at 03:21, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:06:59AM +0300, Ariel Feinerman wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> does anyone know how to allow cyrillic and other languages in Squeak 4.5?
>>
>
> I have no personal knowledge in this area, but I know that cyrillic fonts
> have been supported in various Squeak versions, and I would expect that this
> should be possible in the latest Squeak releases also. Try googling "squeak
> cyrillic fonts", follow a few links and see if it helps.

When importing a TTF font we only import the latin glyphs to save space. I’m not exactly sure where in the code that is, but by adding the cyrillic code points it should just work. All the machinery is there.

Also, Nicolay’s Крестьянство SDK supports cyrillic fonts:

http://st.krestianstvo.org/web/en/download

- Bert -




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Re: Cyrilic fonts in Squeak

David T. Lewis
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:00:54AM +0300, Ariel Feinerman wrote:

> I istalled Free Type Plus like it was said in
> http://www.nat-geo.ru/planet/193798-posledniy-den-palmiry but nothing
> change. Then I load fonts with cyrillic support
> http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Download and
> https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts. I changed system fonts and all
> works well. I can see, the only problem is lack of needed fonts, so why the
> developers do not include them in the production image or at least
> distribute them with it? Smalltalk is excellent for child teaching but it
> is not good for children to study programming with ???? marks and
> installing fonts ;-)

Maybe you can help by being a developer too :-)  If you have knowledge of
the subject, and an iterest in making improvements, then your help will
be welcome.

Here is an overview of how our community development process works:

  https://squeakboard.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/a-new-community-development-model/

Dave



>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On 21.05.2015, at 03:21, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:06:59AM +0300, Ariel Feinerman wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> does anyone know how to allow cyrillic and other languages in Squeak
> > 4.5?
> > >>
> > >
> > > I have no personal knowledge in this area, but I know that cyrillic fonts
> > > have been supported in various Squeak versions, and I would expect that
> > this
> > > should be possible in the latest Squeak releases also. Try googling
> > "squeak
> > > cyrillic fonts", follow a few links and see if it helps.
> >
> > When importing a TTF font we only import the latin glyphs to save space.
> > I???m not exactly sure where in the code that is, but by adding the cyrillic
> > code points it should just work. All the machinery is there.
> >
> > Also, Nicolay???s ???????????????????????? SDK supports cyrillic fonts:
> >
> > http://st.krestianstvo.org/web/en/download
> >
> > - Bert -
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Cyrilic fonts in Squeak

Ariel Feinerman-2


On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:52 AM, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:00:54AM +0300, Ariel Feinerman wrote:
> I istalled Free Type Plus like it was said in
> http://www.nat-geo.ru/planet/193798-posledniy-den-palmiry but nothing
> change. Then I load fonts with cyrillic support
> http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/Download and
> https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts. I changed system fonts and all
> works well. I can see, the only problem is lack of needed fonts, so why the
> developers do not include them in the production image or at least
> distribute them with it? Smalltalk is excellent for child teaching but it
> is not good for children to study programming with ???? marks and
> installing fonts ;-)

Maybe you can help by being a developer too :-)  If you have knowledge of
the subject, and an iterest in making improvements, then your help will
be welcome.


Of course, it is why I am here. I like Squeak and wish to help as much as I can. I would like to use it in our University and therefore we need some internationalization .
 
Here is an overview of how our community development process works:

  https://squeakboard.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/a-new-community-development-model/

Dave



>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On 21.05.2015, at 03:21, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:06:59AM +0300, Ariel Feinerman wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> does anyone know how to allow cyrillic and other languages in Squeak
> > 4.5?
> > >>
> > >
> > > I have no personal knowledge in this area, but I know that cyrillic fonts
> > > have been supported in various Squeak versions, and I would expect that
> > this
> > > should be possible in the latest Squeak releases also. Try googling
> > "squeak
> > > cyrillic fonts", follow a few links and see if it helps.
> >
> > When importing a TTF font we only import the latin glyphs to save space.
> > I???m not exactly sure where in the code that is, but by adding the cyrillic
> > code points it should just work. All the machinery is there.
> >
> > Also, Nicolay???s ???????????????????????? SDK supports cyrillic fonts:
> >
> > http://st.krestianstvo.org/web/en/download
> >
> > - Bert -
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
> >
> >
>
>
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> Ariel

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