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jahrel
Hello, all--

I've been trying unsuccessfully for some hours to make my Squeak image
accept diacritical characters under Ubuntu 7.04. I've tried all
possible combinations of the -textenc, -encoding, and LC_CTYPE options
I could but none worked. The diacritical characters either don't
display or display incorrectly.

Ironically, if I run Squeak via Wine, the diacritical characters
display correctly.

Any help pointing me to the right direction would be appreciated.

My system configuration today is:

Distro: Ubuntu 7.04

Squeak:

3.9-8 #5 Tue Oct 10 11:56:09 PDT 2006 gcc 4.0.3
Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006
i686 GNU/Linux
default plugin location: /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/*.so

Image:

Tried with the vanilla 7067 image, the lasted squeak-dev image, and
even Ramon Leon's image. :-)

Any help is appreaciated.

Thanks,

Fahr
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Re: Dead keys on Ubuntu

Michael van der Gulik-3
Fahr Jahrel wrote:

> Hello, all--
>
> I've been trying unsuccessfully for some hours to make my Squeak image
> accept diacritical characters under Ubuntu 7.04. I've tried all
> possible combinations of the -textenc, -encoding, and LC_CTYPE options
> I could but none worked. The diacritical characters either don't
> display or display incorrectly.
>
> Ironically, if I run Squeak via Wine, the diacritical characters
> display correctly.
>
> Any help pointing me to the right direction would be appreciated.
>
> My system configuration today is:
>
> Distro: Ubuntu 7.04
>
> Squeak:
>
> 3.9-8 #5 Tue Oct 10 11:56:09 PDT 2006 gcc 4.0.3
> Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
> Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006
> i686 GNU/Linux
> default plugin location: /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/*.so
>
> Image:
>
> Tried with the vanilla 7067 image, the lasted squeak-dev image, and
> even Ramon Leon's image. :-)
>
Hi Fahr.

I'm using Ubuntu 7.04, and I tried the international characters using
3.9-7067. I set my keyboard to be "US English International (with dead
keys)" (änd ít séëms tø wórk). I learned something new today - I've
never played with international characters in Linux before.

It worked mostly okay. The dead keys didn't work, but I could use the
right-alt key to type in some pretty cool characters. The characters
displayed fine.

Try using a different font (appearance -> system fonts). I'm no expert
on this, but from what I know, Squeak can either use itś built-in font
renderers or use the freetype library, and not all fonts have all
characters in them.

Otherwise could you be more specific about what is happening? Are you
having trouble typing in the characters, or are they being displayed
incorrectly? Can you cut and paste international characters into Squeak
okay?

Michael.

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Re: Dead keys on Ubuntu

jahrel
Hi, Michael--

Thanks for your response. Sorry for not being more specific.

I'm experiencing the same problem you describe: the characters display
fine, but inputing them via dead keys fails in the same way you
describe. I can copy and paste international text on any window, and
can use the right-alt key, but any dead key combination will just
display two separate characters.

As for the built-in renderers, I tried using the vanilla image without
any font enhancements, tried with with the Damien's squeak-dev image
without any font enhancements and with both adding FreeType Plus. Not
a single combination worked.

The man page for squeak implies dead keys should work fine, and the
changelogs also say that.

Anyway, I develop mostly using English, but since my application needs
to support a couple of other languages, it would be nice to be able to
input international characters directly in the image without having to
resort to copy and past.

Thanks again for the response. Any additional pointers are appreciated.

Fahr

On 7/22/07, Michael van der Gulik <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm using Ubuntu 7.04, and I tried the international characters using
> 3.9-7067. I set my keyboard to be "US English International (with dead
> keys)" (änd ít séëms tø wórk). I learned something new today - I've
> never played with international characters in Linux before.
>
> It worked mostly okay. The dead keys didn't work, but I could use the
> right-alt key to type in some pretty cool characters. The characters
> displayed fine.
>
> Try using a different font (appearance -> system fonts). I'm no expert
> on this, but from what I know, Squeak can either use itś built-in font
> renderers or use the freetype library, and not all fonts have all
> characters in them.
>
> Otherwise could you be more specific about what is happening? Are you
> having trouble typing in the characters, or are they being displayed
> incorrectly? Can you cut and paste international characters into Squeak
> okay?
>
> Michael.
>
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Re: Dead keys on Ubuntu

Hilaire Fernandes-4
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It seems dead key is not working with utf-8 encoding from the linux
host. What we have found is to force to iso8859-1 before starting the VM

See some details at (use google to translate if needed):
http://community.ofset.org/wiki/Squeak_sur_GNU-Linux#Caract.C3.A8res_accentu.C3.A9s_avec_Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake

Hilaire

Fahr Jahrel a écrit :

> Hello, all--
>
> I've been trying unsuccessfully for some hours to make my Squeak image
> accept diacritical characters under Ubuntu 7.04. I've tried all
> possible combinations of the -textenc, -encoding, and LC_CTYPE options
> I could but none worked. The diacritical characters either don't
> display or display incorrectly.
>
> Ironically, if I run Squeak via Wine, the diacritical characters
> display correctly.
>
> Any help pointing me to the right direction would be appreciated.
>
> My system configuration today is:
>
> Distro: Ubuntu 7.04
>
> Squeak:
>
> 3.9-8 #5 Tue Oct 10 11:56:09 PDT 2006 gcc 4.0.3
> Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
> Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006
> i686 GNU/Linux
> default plugin location: /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/*.so
>
> Image:
>
> Tried with the vanilla 7067 image, the lasted squeak-dev image, and
> even Ramon Leon's image. :-)
>
> Any help is appreaciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fahr

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Re: Re: Dead keys on Ubuntu

jahrel
Wow! That did it. Thank you so much, Hilaire.

Cheers,

Fahr

On 8/5/07, Hilaire Fernandes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It seems dead key is not working with utf-8 encoding from the linux
> host. What we have found is to force to iso8859-1 before starting the VM
>
> See some details at (use google to translate if needed):
> http://community.ofset.org/wiki/Squeak_sur_GNU-Linux#Caract.C3.A8res_accentu.C3.A9s_avec_Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake
>
> Hilaire
>
> Fahr Jahrel a écrit :
> > Hello, all--
> >
> > I've been trying unsuccessfully for some hours to make my Squeak image
> > accept diacritical characters under Ubuntu 7.04. I've tried all
> > possible combinations of the -textenc, -encoding, and LC_CTYPE options
> > I could but none worked. The diacritical characters either don't
> > display or display incorrectly.
> >
> > Ironically, if I run Squeak via Wine, the diacritical characters
> > display correctly.
> >
> > Any help pointing me to the right direction would be appreciated.
> >
> > My system configuration today is:
> >
> > Distro: Ubuntu 7.04
> >
> > Squeak:
> >
> > 3.9-8 #5 Tue Oct 10 11:56:09 PDT 2006 gcc 4.0.3
> > Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
> > Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006
> > i686 GNU/Linux
> > default plugin location: /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/*.so
> >
> > Image:
> >
> > Tried with the vanilla 7067 image, the lasted squeak-dev image, and
> > even Ramon Leon's image. :-)
> >
> > Any help is appreaciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Fahr
>
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