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Eliot Miranda-2
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Displaying Strings and Texts in workspaces.

Eliot Miranda-2
Hi All,

    I notice with some dismay that String>>openInWorkspaceWithTitle: was deleted some time ago.  Note that there is still a sender in the GetText package.

Writing either
    (StringHolder new contents: myString)
openLabel: 'W. T. F?!'
or
    (Workspace new contents: myString)
openLabel: 'W. T. F?!'
is a pain in the ass.

So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?

_,,,^..^,,,_
best, Eliot
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timrowledge

> On 24-01-2018, at 10:27 AM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
> So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?

Why not both?
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/565679-why-not-both-why-dont-we-have-both


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Stéphane Rollandin
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Stéphane Rollandin
>> So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?
>
> Why not both?

+1

Stef

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marcel.taeumel
Hi Eliot, hi all --

For this scenario, we should use the UI-Manager-Tool-Abstraction. :-) It is "UIManager default edit: 'foo' label: 'bar'". Works for Strings and Texts.

Hi restored the missing #openInWorkspaceWithTitle: as deprecated and added #edit to String and Text:


Try: 

'Hello, World!' edit.
'Hello, World!' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis bold; edit.

Best,
Marcel



Am 24.01.2018 23:18:02 schrieb Stéphane Rollandin <[hidden email]>:

>> So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?
>
> Why not both?

+1

Stef
David T. Lewis
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David T. Lewis
This is a nice clear solution. Easy to remember, and it works in MVC too.

Dave


On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 08:36:17AM +0100, Marcel Taeumel wrote:

> Hi Eliot, hi all --
>
> For this scenario, we should use the UI-Manager-Tool-Abstraction. :-) It is "UIManager default edit: 'foo' label: 'bar'". Works for Strings and Texts.
>
> Hi restored the missing #openInWorkspaceWithTitle: as deprecated and added #edit to String and Text:
>
> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html]
> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html]
> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html]
>
> Try:??
>
> 'Hello, World!' edit.
> 'Hello, World!' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis bold; edit.
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>
>
>
> Am 24.01.2018 23:18:02 schrieb St??phane Rollandin <[hidden email]>:
> >> So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?
> >
> > Why not both?
>
> +1
>
> Stef
>

>


Bob Arning-2
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Bob Arning-2

Doesn't need to be limited to String-like things either. I use something similar such that:

Smalltalk keys sorted bobEdit

opens a workspace with:

1 - ADPCMCodec
2 - ADPCMCodecPlugin
3 - AEDesc
4 - AGenieIntroduction
5 - AIFFFileReader
6 - AMPCommunicator
...and so on...

Handy if you need to email the contents of some collection.


On 1/25/18 7:33 AM, David T. Lewis wrote:
This is a nice clear solution. Easy to remember, and it works in MVC too.

Dave


On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 08:36:17AM +0100, Marcel Taeumel wrote:

Hi Eliot, hi all --

For this scenario, we should use the UI-Manager-Tool-Abstraction. :-) It is "UIManager default edit: 'foo' label: 'bar'". Works for Strings and Texts.

Hi restored the missing #openInWorkspaceWithTitle: as deprecated and added #edit to String and Text:

http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html]
http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html]
http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html]

Try:??

'Hello, World!' edit.
'Hello, World!' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis bold; edit.

Best,
Marcel



Am 24.01.2018 23:18:02 schrieb St??phane Rollandin [hidden email]:

So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?

Why not both?

+1

Stef



      

        

      

      



    

    

  





	
	
	
	

						
			

		

	

	

		

			

				

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                                        Hi, Bob.

That's part of my motivation for Vivide:

... #fancyEditor openScriptWith: someObjects ...

:-)

Best,
Marcel

                                        
                                        

                        
Am 25.01.2018 15:09:46 schrieb Bob Arning <[hidden email]>:

    
Doesn't need to be limited to String-like
        things either. I use something similar such that:

      

    
Smalltalk keys sorted bobEdit

    
opens a workspace with: 

      

    
1 - ADPCMCodec

        2 - ADPCMCodecPlugin

        3 - AEDesc

        4 - AGenieIntroduction

        5 - AIFFFileReader

        6 - AMPCommunicator

        ...and so on...

    
Handy if you need to email the contents of
        some collection.

    

    

    
On 1/25/18 7:33 AM, David T. Lewis
      wrote:

    

    

      
This is a nice clear solution. Easy to remember, and it works in MVC too.

Dave


On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 08:36:17AM +0100, Marcel Taeumel wrote:


      

        
Hi Eliot, hi all --

For this scenario, we should use the UI-Manager-Tool-Abstraction. :-) It is "UIManager default edit: 'foo' label: 'bar'". Works for Strings and Texts.

Hi restored the missing #openInWorkspaceWithTitle: as deprecated and added #edit to String and Text:

http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html]
http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html]
http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html]

Try:??

'Hello, World!' edit.
'Hello, World!' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis bold; edit.

Best,
Marcel



Am 24.01.2018 23:18:02 schrieb St??phane Rollandin [hidden email]:


        

          

            
So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?


          

          
Why not both?


        

        
+1

Stef



      

      

      

        

      

      

    

    

  
                        




	
	
	
	

						
			

		

	

	

		

			

				

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Hi Marcel,


On Jan 24, 2018, at 11:36 PM, Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:


                                        
                                        
                                            
                                        
                                        
                                        Hi Eliot, hi all --

For this scenario, we should use the UI-Manager-Tool-Abstraction. :-) It is "UIManager default edit: 'foo' label: 'bar'". Works for Strings and Texts.

Hi restored the missing #openInWorkspaceWithTitle: as deprecated and added #edit to String and Text:


Try: 

'Hello, World!' edit.
'Hello, World!' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis bold; edit.

Will you be happy if I add editLabel: or editWithLabel: ?

Best,
Marcel




                                        
                                        

                        
Am 24.01.2018 23:18:02 schrieb Stéphane Rollandin <[hidden email]>:
>> So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?
> 
> Why not both?

+1

Stef


                        





	
	
	
	

						
			

		

	

	

		

			

				

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                                        Hi Eliot,

well, do it. ;-) If you need it that often... :-)

Best,
Marcel

                                        

                        
Am 25.01.2018 16:09:01 schrieb Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
Hi Marcel,


On Jan 24, 2018, at 11:36 PM, Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:


                                        
                                        
                                            
                                        
                                        
                                        Hi Eliot, hi all --

For this scenario, we should use the UI-Manager-Tool-Abstraction. :-) It is "UIManager default edit: 'foo' label: 'bar'". Works for Strings and Texts.

Hi restored the missing #openInWorkspaceWithTitle: as deprecated and added #edit to String and Text:


Try: 

'Hello, World!' edit.
'Hello, World!' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis bold; edit.

Will you be happy if I add editLabel: or editWithLabel: ?

Best,
Marcel




                                        
                                        

                        
Am 24.01.2018 23:18:02 schrieb Stéphane Rollandin <[hidden email]>:
>> So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?
> 
> Why not both?

+1

Stef


                        


                        




	
	
	
	

						
			

		

	

	

		

			

				

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		+1 for


    'Hello, World!' editWithLabel: aString


On 1/25/18, Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:


> Hi Eliot,

>

> well, do it. ;-) If you need it that often... :-)

>

> Best,

> Marcel

> Am 25.01.2018 16:09:01 schrieb Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Marcel,

>

>

>

> On Jan 24, 2018, at 11:36 PM, Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]

> [mailto:[hidden email]]> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Eliot, hi all --

>

> For this scenario, we should use the UI-Manager-Tool-Abstraction. :-) It is

> "UIManager default edit: 'foo' label: 'bar'". Works for Strings and Texts.

>

> Hi restored the missing #openInWorkspaceWithTitle: as deprecated and added

> #edit to String and Text:

>

> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html
> [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html]

> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html
> [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html]

> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html
> [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html]

>

> Try:

>

> 'Hello, World!' edit.

> 'Hello, World!' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis bold; edit.

>

> Will you be happy if I add editLabel: or editWithLabel: ?

>

> Best,

> Marcel

>

>

>

> Am 24.01.2018 23:18:02 schrieb Stéphane Rollandin <[hidden email]

> [mailto:[hidden email]]>:

>>> So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for

>>> example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?

>>

>> Why not both?

>

> +1

>

> Stef

>

>

>




	
	
	
	

						
			

		

	

	

		

			

				

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		Hi Hans,



> On Jan 27, 2018, at 9:56 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 

> +1 for

> 

>    'Hello, World!' editWithLabel: aString


It's there now; I committed a couple of days ago.


> 

>> On 1/25/18, Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote:

>> Hi Eliot,

>> 

>> well, do it. ;-) If you need it that often... :-)

>> 

>> Best,

>> Marcel

>> Am 25.01.2018 16:09:01 schrieb Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:

>> Hi Marcel,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On Jan 24, 2018, at 11:36 PM, Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]

>> [mailto:[hidden email]]> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> Hi Eliot, hi all --

>> 

>> For this scenario, we should use the UI-Manager-Tool-Abstraction. :-) It is

>> "UIManager default edit: 'foo' label: 'bar'". Works for Strings and Texts.

>> 

>> Hi restored the missing #openInWorkspaceWithTitle: as deprecated and added

>> #edit to String and Text:

>> 

>> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html
>> [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-60Deprecated-mt-9-mcz-tp5064321.html]

>> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html
>> [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-ToolBuilder-Kernel-mt-119-mcz-tp5064323.html]

>> http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html
>> [http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-GetText-mt-45-mcz-tp5064324.html]

>> 

>> Try:

>> 

>> 'Hello, World!' edit.

>> 'Hello, World!' asText addAttribute: TextEmphasis bold; edit.

>> 

>> Will you be happy if I add editLabel: or editWithLabel: ?

>> 

>> Best,

>> Marcel

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Am 24.01.2018 23:18:02 schrieb Stéphane Rollandin <[hidden email]

>> [mailto:[hidden email]]>:

>>>> So should we have a class side method on StringHolder, openOn:label: for

>>>> example, or put back the most convenient openInWorkspaceWithTitle?

>>> 

>>> Why not both?

>> 

>> +1

>> 

>> Stef

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 




	
	
	
	

						
			

		

	

	
		
	

	

			
				
			

		

			
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