[Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
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[Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
 
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Where is the home page of the OSProcess package? The following one http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 is easily found on the wiki but it was last updated in 2008. Does it still apply or is there a newer one? Regards Hannes |
Re: [Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
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The page 'OSProcess' links to page 'CommandShell'
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1914 Is the command shell included if I load OSProcess? Which version do I get --HH On 3/8/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello > > Where is the home page of the OSProcess package? > > The following one > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 > > is easily found on the wiki but it was last updated in 2008. Does it > still apply or is there a newer one? > > Regards > Hannes > |
Re: [Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
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In reply to this post by Hannes Hirzel
On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 12:16:09PM +0100, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > Where is the home page of the OSProcess package? > > The following one > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 > > is easily found on the wiki but it was last updated in 2008. Does it > still apply or is there a newer one? > > Regards > Hannes > Hi Hannes, Yes that is the home page. I thought that I had updated it with the proper references to the MC repositories, but either I forgot, or perhaps there is an issue with swiki, to be honest I'm not sure. Either way it clearly needs to be fixed. I can't follow up on in right now but I will try to do so as soon as I can. Thanks for pointing this out. Overall, the swiki pages of interest for OSProcess are: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6176 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1914 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6023 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2153 Dave |
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In reply to this post by Hannes Hirzel
On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 12:23:58PM +0100, H. Hirzel wrote:
> The page 'OSProcess' links to page 'CommandShell' > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1914 > > Is the command shell included if I load OSProcess? > > Which version do I get > > --HH Use the latest version of OSProcess and CommandShell, and load both of them. You can also load both from SqueakMap. Please use the head (latest version) and ignore any Squeak version tags or warnings. OSProcess and CommandShell are version independent, but there is no way to say that with SqueakMap. Dave > > On 3/8/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hello > > > > Where is the home page of the OSProcess package? > > > > The following one > > > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 > > > > is easily found on the wiki but it was last updated in 2008. Does it > > still apply or is there a newer one? > > > > Regards > > Hannes > > > |
Re: [Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
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This is fine, thank you.
The info has been added to the OSProcess (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708) page. HH On 3/8/18, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 12:23:58PM +0100, H. Hirzel wrote: >> The page 'OSProcess' links to page 'CommandShell' >> >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1914 >> >> Is the command shell included if I load OSProcess? >> >> Which version do I get >> >> --HH > > Use the latest version of OSProcess and CommandShell, and load both > of them. You can also load both from SqueakMap. Please use the head > (latest version) and ignore any Squeak version tags or warnings. > OSProcess and CommandShell are version independent, but there is > no way to say that with SqueakMap. > > Dave > > > >> >> On 3/8/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > Hello >> > >> > Where is the home page of the OSProcess package? >> > >> > The following one >> > >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 >> > >> > is easily found on the wiki but it was last updated in 2008. Does it >> > still apply or is there a newer one? >> > >> > Regards >> > Hannes >> > >> > > |
Re: [Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
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On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 04:01:43PM +0100, H. Hirzel wrote:
> This is fine, thank you. > > The info has been added to the OSProcess > (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708) page. > > HH Cool! Thank you very much. Dave > > On 3/8/18, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 12:23:58PM +0100, H. Hirzel wrote: > >> The page 'OSProcess' links to page 'CommandShell' > >> > >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1914 > >> > >> Is the command shell included if I load OSProcess? > >> > >> Which version do I get > >> > >> --HH > > > > Use the latest version of OSProcess and CommandShell, and load both > > of them. You can also load both from SqueakMap. Please use the head > > (latest version) and ignore any Squeak version tags or warnings. > > OSProcess and CommandShell are version independent, but there is > > no way to say that with SqueakMap. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > >> > >> On 3/8/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> > Hello > >> > > >> > Where is the home page of the OSProcess package? > >> > > >> > The following one > >> > > >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 > >> > > >> > is easily found on the wiki but it was last updated in 2008. Does it > >> > still apply or is there a newer one? > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > Hannes > >> > > >> > > > > > |
Re: [Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
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In reply to this post by Hannes Hirzel
Hi All,
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:01 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: This is fine, thank you. This exemplifies the disaster that is our online documentation. The page has version inf from 2008 and talks about a 64-bit Squeak which has nothing to do with our current release 64-bit Squeak. It is hopelessly misleading to a newbie trying to navigate our documentation. :-(
_,,,^..^,,,_ best, Eliot |
Re: [Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
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Hi Eliot
Thanks for the note about the 64/bit Squeak of 2008 on page http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 I just deleted that reference to a 64 bit version no longer known. And added 'historical'. I think the most important new information is that OSProcess should be loaded from Squeak map and just the head version. Though the page http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 still could need some improvement it is no longer a disaster I assume and will do a better job than it did last week .... --Hannes On 3/9/18, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi All, > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:01 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> This is fine, thank you. >> >> The info has been added to the OSProcess >> (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708) page. >> > > This exemplifies the disaster that is our online documentation. The page > has version inf from 2008 and talks about a 64-bit Squeak which has nothing > to do with our current release 64-bit Squeak. It is hopelessly misleading > to a newbie trying to navigate our documentation. :-( > > > >> HH >> >> On 3/8/18, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 12:23:58PM +0100, H. Hirzel wrote: >> >> The page 'OSProcess' links to page 'CommandShell' >> >> >> >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1914 >> >> >> >> Is the command shell included if I load OSProcess? >> >> >> >> Which version do I get >> >> >> >> --HH >> > >> > Use the latest version of OSProcess and CommandShell, and load both >> > of them. You can also load both from SqueakMap. Please use the head >> > (latest version) and ignore any Squeak version tags or warnings. >> > OSProcess and CommandShell are version independent, but there is >> > no way to say that with SqueakMap. >> > >> > Dave >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> On 3/8/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> > Hello >> >> > >> >> > Where is the home page of the OSProcess package? >> >> > >> >> > The following one >> >> > >> >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 >> >> > >> >> > is easily found on the wiki but it was last updated in 2008. Does it >> >> > still apply or is there a newer one? >> >> > >> >> > Regards >> >> > Hannes >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > -- > _,,,^..^,,,_ > best, Eliot > |
Re: [Documentation] Where is the most recent home page of OSProcess?
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In reply to this post by Eliot Miranda-2
On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 12:07:47PM -0800, Eliot Miranda wrote:
> Hi All, > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:01 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > This is fine, thank you. > > > > The info has been added to the OSProcess > > (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708) page. > > > > This exemplifies the disaster that is our online documentation. The page > has version inf from 2008 and talks about a 64-bit Squeak which has nothing > to do with our current release 64-bit Squeak. It is hopelessly misleading > to a newbie trying to navigate our documentation. :-( > I will not presume to defend the state of the documentation, but on the plus side, whatever I said about the 64-bit image in 2008 remains true for the Spur 64-bit image in 2018. Under the "historical versions" section you can see that 10 years ago I said: Version 4 supports 64-bit and 32-bit Squeak. As of version 3, OSProcess provides limited support for Windows in addition to Unix/Linux. This is still true for OSProcess 4.6.6 today, and it is equally true for for both the old 32/64 bit formats and the new Spur 32/64 bit formats. Scrolling all the way down to the bottom of that page, where it describes the original "OSProcess version 0.3" release, I was amused to find this link to my installation instructions from 1999. Check it out if you think nothing has improved over the years :-) http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/710 Some of the CommandShell documentation (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2153) is fairly good, although I don't know if anyone reads it. Oddly enough, people seem to figure out the poorly documented OSProcess without difficulty, but as far as I can tell not too many people pay attention to my carefully documented CommandShell package. I'm not sure I can explain that, maybe it is just hard to find the pages (thanks Hannes for making it better), or maybe nobody uses CommandShell. Dave |
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In reply to this post by Hannes Hirzel
On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 11:08:55PM +0100, H. Hirzel wrote:
> Hi Eliot > > Thanks for the note about the 64/bit Squeak of 2008 on page > > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 > > I just deleted that reference to a 64 bit version no longer known. And > added 'historical'. Thank you Hannes :-) Dave > > I think the most important new information is that OSProcess should be > loaded from Squeak map and just the head version. > > Though the page http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 still could need > some improvement it is no longer a disaster I assume and will do a > better job than it did last week .... > > > --Hannes > > On 3/9/18, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:01 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> This is fine, thank you. > >> > >> The info has been added to the OSProcess > >> (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708) page. > >> > > > > This exemplifies the disaster that is our online documentation. The page > > has version inf from 2008 and talks about a 64-bit Squeak which has nothing > > to do with our current release 64-bit Squeak. It is hopelessly misleading > > to a newbie trying to navigate our documentation. :-( > > > > > > > >> HH > >> > >> On 3/8/18, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> > On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 12:23:58PM +0100, H. Hirzel wrote: > >> >> The page 'OSProcess' links to page 'CommandShell' > >> >> > >> >> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1914 > >> >> > >> >> Is the command shell included if I load OSProcess? > >> >> > >> >> Which version do I get > >> >> > >> >> --HH > >> > > >> > Use the latest version of OSProcess and CommandShell, and load both > >> > of them. You can also load both from SqueakMap. Please use the head > >> > (latest version) and ignore any Squeak version tags or warnings. > >> > OSProcess and CommandShell are version independent, but there is > >> > no way to say that with SqueakMap. > >> > > >> > Dave > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> On 3/8/18, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> >> > Hello > >> >> > > >> >> > Where is the home page of the OSProcess package? > >> >> > > >> >> > The following one > >> >> > > >> >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/708 > >> >> > > >> >> > is easily found on the wiki but it was last updated in 2008. Does it > >> >> > still apply or is there a newer one? > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > Hannes > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > _,,,^..^,,,_ > > best, Eliot > > > |
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