H'lo fellow Croquet users/devs. I am wondering if Croquet still uses the two-phase synchronization design or has it started to use the island-controler-router design? One would expect the island-controler-router design to be easier on NATed networks (like most of XDSL connected networks are) due fewer or no port-pinholeing (or if you prefer port-forwarding). I would be glad if Croquet would become semi-userfriendly Realy Soon™ ;-D Hopeing to be able to partpicitate vigoriusly in this quite intresting and idea provoking project. -Baldur |
On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Baldur Jóhannsson wrote: > > H'lo fellow Croquet users/devs. > > I am wondering if Croquet still uses the two-phase synchronization > design Croquet has never used a two-phase synchronization design... > or has it started to use the island-controler-router design? ...but it will very soon start to use the island-controller-router design. > > One would expect the island-controler-router design to be easier > on NATed networks (like most of XDSL connected networks are) due > fewer or no port-pinholeing (or if you prefer port-forwarding). I don't follow (possibly since I'm not sure know which 2-phase design you refer to), but we do have the ability to establish TCP connections between parties behind different NATs using the techniques described in http://www.brynosaurus.com/pub/net/p2pnat/ Josh > > I would be glad if Croquet would become semi-userfriendly Realy > Soon™ ;-D > > Hopeing to be able to partpicitate vigoriusly in this quite > intresting and idea provoking project. > -Baldur |
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Clarification: There is no WAN capability (with or without NAT
traversal) in the currently available Jasmine. We have, in the lab, a version of Jasmine that uses the hole-punching technique BOTH for Jasmine connectivity (the connect dialog in the dock) AND for the island-controller-router design of Hedgehog. (Both in one image.) It requires a special VM (different from that which comes from Squeak). We've been using it for about a month, but have not yet determined in what way it should be made available. (For one thing, we haven't built the VM on Linux. Just Mac and Windows.) We'll show it at C5 this week. More info to come, I'm sure. On Jan 24, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Josh Gargus wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Baldur Jóhannsson wrote: > >> >> H'lo fellow Croquet users/devs. >> >> I am wondering if Croquet still uses the two-phase >> synchronization design > > Croquet has never used a two-phase synchronization design... > >> or has it started to use the island-controler-router design? > > ...but it will very soon start to use the island-controller-router > design. > >> >> One would expect the island-controler-router design to be easier >> on NATed networks (like most of XDSL connected networks are) due >> fewer or no port-pinholeing (or if you prefer port-forwarding). > > I don't follow (possibly since I'm not sure know which 2-phase > design you refer to), but we do have the ability to establish TCP > connections between parties behind different NATs using the > techniques described in http://www.brynosaurus.com/pub/net/p2pnat/ > > Josh > > >> >> I would be glad if Croquet would become semi-userfriendly Realy >> Soon™ ;-D >> >> Hopeing to be able to partpicitate vigoriusly in this quite >> intresting and idea provoking project. >> -Baldur > > |
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