Embedding the VM Window inside a Windows application (and possibily script it)
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Hello VMers. I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP here) inside a Window application. I could do that with Tcl/Tk like in here: (scroll to the bottom) http://wiki.tcl.tk/%092870 Another possibility was: http://web.archive.org/web/20050309062352/http://home.t-online.de/home/dshepherd/tkview.htm Well, you got the idea. The point would be to be able to get the VM window inside an app like an activeX/COM object for example (easiest to use). http://www.sugarweb.com/Web/Squeak/readme.htm appears dead. Anyone having a copy of what was there? I saw http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/459 for talking with the oustide world afterwards which is good. And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 Thanks for the help! -- Philippe Back |
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On 2012-06-19, at 21:00, [hidden email] wrote: > Hello VMers. > > I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP > here) inside a Window application. > [...] > > And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 The browser plugin may indeed be your best bet for reference. It starts the VM and redirects its output. You might be able to adapt that code. Possibly the OCX control even just works, or could be made to work easily. - Bert - |
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I scavenged the web a bit to find out some sources. I also managed to install the plugin in Chrome. So, it shows in about:plugins But well, it crashes. Is anyone here having a working source code and dll that I can put in there for testing? Then I could start porting this to embed the VM window in another program. I've looked at the code mind you, but I first want to see this running so that I can step through with a debugger to get a clue of what's going on. (I miss self halt...) TIA Philippe 2012/6/19 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: > > On 2012-06-19, at 21:00, [hidden email] wrote: > >> Hello VMers. >> >> I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP >> here) inside a Window application. >> [...] >> >> And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 > > > The browser plugin may indeed be your best bet for reference. It starts the VM and redirects its output. You might be able to adapt that code. Possibly the OCX control even just works, or could be made to work easily. > > - Bert - > > > -- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges Belgium |
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On 2012-06-20, at 00:14, [hidden email] wrote: > I scavenged the web a bit to find out some sources. > > I also managed to install the plugin in Chrome. > > So, it shows in about:plugins > > But well, it crashes. > > Is anyone here having a working source code and dll that I can put in > there for testing? http://squeakland.org/download/ - Bert - > Then I could start porting this to embed the VM window in another program. > > I've looked at the code mind you, but I first want to see this running > so that I can step through with a debugger to get a clue of what's > going on. (I miss self halt...) > > TIA > Philippe > > 2012/6/19 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >> >> On 2012-06-19, at 21:00, [hidden email] wrote: >> >>> Hello VMers. >>> >>> I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP >>> here) inside a Window application. >>> [...] >>> >>> And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 >> >> >> The browser plugin may indeed be your best bet for reference. It starts the VM and redirects its output. You might be able to adapt that code. Possibly the OCX control even just works, or could be made to work easily. >> >> - Bert - >> >> >> > > > > -- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: > [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: > http://philippeback.be > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 > 1301 Bierges > Belgium |
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There is no plugin there, only etoys. Is the plugin inside? 2012/6/20 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: > > On 2012-06-20, at 00:14, [hidden email] wrote: > >> I scavenged the web a bit to find out some sources. >> >> I also managed to install the plugin in Chrome. >> >> So, it shows in about:plugins >> >> But well, it crashes. >> >> Is anyone here having a working source code and dll that I can put in >> there for testing? > > http://squeakland.org/download/ > > - Bert - > >> Then I could start porting this to embed the VM window in another program. >> >> I've looked at the code mind you, but I first want to see this running >> so that I can step through with a debugger to get a clue of what's >> going on. (I miss self halt...) >> >> TIA >> Philippe >> >> 2012/6/19 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>> >>> On 2012-06-19, at 21:00, [hidden email] wrote: >>> >>>> Hello VMers. >>>> >>>> I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP >>>> here) inside a Window application. >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 >>> >>> >>> The browser plugin may indeed be your best bet for reference. It starts the VM and redirects its output. You might be able to adapt that code. Possibly the OCX control even just works, or could be made to work easily. >>> >>> - Bert - >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Philippe Back >> Dramatic Performance Improvements >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >> [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >> http://philippeback.be >> >> High Octane SPRL >> rue cour Boisacq 101 >> 1301 Bierges >> Belgium > > -- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges Belgium |
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On 2012-06-20, at 00:24, [hidden email] wrote: > > There is no plugin there, only etoys. Is the plugin inside? It gets installed with Etoys, yes. After installation, click the "launch" link on a project page. E.g. http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=9655 That runs Squeak inside the browser. - Bert - > 2012/6/20 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >> >> On 2012-06-20, at 00:14, [hidden email] wrote: >> >>> I scavenged the web a bit to find out some sources. >>> >>> I also managed to install the plugin in Chrome. >>> >>> So, it shows in about:plugins >>> >>> But well, it crashes. >>> >>> Is anyone here having a working source code and dll that I can put in >>> there for testing? >> >> http://squeakland.org/download/ >> >> - Bert - >> >>> Then I could start porting this to embed the VM window in another program. >>> >>> I've looked at the code mind you, but I first want to see this running >>> so that I can step through with a debugger to get a clue of what's >>> going on. (I miss self halt...) >>> >>> TIA >>> Philippe >>> >>> 2012/6/19 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>>> On 2012-06-19, at 21:00, [hidden email] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello VMers. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP >>>>> here) inside a Window application. >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>> And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 >>>> >>>> >>>> The browser plugin may indeed be your best bet for reference. It starts the VM and redirects its output. You might be able to adapt that code. Possibly the OCX control even just works, or could be made to work easily. >>>> >>>> - Bert - >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Philippe Back >>> Dramatic Performance Improvements >>> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >>> [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >>> http://philippeback.be >>> >>> High Octane SPRL >>> rue cour Boisacq 101 >>> 1301 Bierges >>> Belgium >> >> > > > > -- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: > [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: > http://philippeback.be > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 > 1301 Bierges > Belgium |
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Hey, thanks, works perfectly in Chrome. Now, where can I find the source of NPSqueak.dll and SqueakOCX.dll ? I have a version of a npsqueak.dll but it isn't the same thing. This one has been modified and crashes my system. Clues? TIA Phil 2012/6/20 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: > > > On 2012-06-20, at 00:24, [hidden email] wrote: > >> >> There is no plugin there, only etoys. Is the plugin inside? > > It gets installed with Etoys, yes. > > After installation, click the "launch" link on a project page. E.g. > > http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=9655 > > That runs Squeak inside the browser. > > - Bert - > >> 2012/6/20 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>> >>> On 2012-06-20, at 00:14, [hidden email] wrote: >>> >>>> I scavenged the web a bit to find out some sources. >>>> >>>> I also managed to install the plugin in Chrome. >>>> >>>> So, it shows in about:plugins >>>> >>>> But well, it crashes. >>>> >>>> Is anyone here having a working source code and dll that I can put in >>>> there for testing? >>> >>> http://squeakland.org/download/ >>> >>> - Bert - >>> >>>> Then I could start porting this to embed the VM window in another program. >>>> >>>> I've looked at the code mind you, but I first want to see this running >>>> so that I can step through with a debugger to get a clue of what's >>>> going on. (I miss self halt...) >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> Philippe >>>> >>>> 2012/6/19 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-06-19, at 21:00, [hidden email] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello VMers. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP >>>>>> here) inside a Window application. >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The browser plugin may indeed be your best bet for reference. It starts the VM and redirects its output. You might be able to adapt that code. Possibly the OCX control even just works, or could be made to work easily. >>>>> >>>>> - Bert - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Philippe Back >>>> Dramatic Performance Improvements >>>> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >>>> [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >>>> http://philippeback.be >>>> >>>> High Octane SPRL >>>> rue cour Boisacq 101 >>>> 1301 Bierges >>>> Belgium >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Philippe Back >> Dramatic Performance Improvements >> Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: >> [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: >> http://philippeback.be >> >> High Octane SPRL >> rue cour Boisacq 101 >> 1301 Bierges >> Belgium > > > > -- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail: [hidden email] | Web: http://philippeback.eu | Blog: http://philippeback.be High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 1301 Bierges Belgium |
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Etoys uses the official Windows VM, 3.11.4 from http://squeakvm.org/win32/ You would have to look at the svn log to find out the corresponding source version. But the plugin code has not changed in 3 years: http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/win32/vm/Plugin/ - Bert - On 2012-06-20, at 01:06, [hidden email] wrote: > > Hey, thanks, works perfectly in Chrome. > > Now, where can I find the source of NPSqueak.dll and SqueakOCX.dll ? > > I have a version of a npsqueak.dll but it isn't the same thing. This > one has been modified and crashes my system. > > Clues? > TIA > Phil > > 2012/6/20 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >> >> >> On 2012-06-20, at 00:24, [hidden email] wrote: >> >>> >>> There is no plugin there, only etoys. Is the plugin inside? >> >> It gets installed with Etoys, yes. >> >> After installation, click the "launch" link on a project page. E.g. >> >> http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=9655 >> >> That runs Squeak inside the browser. >> >> - Bert - >> >>> 2012/6/20 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>>> On 2012-06-20, at 00:14, [hidden email] wrote: >>>> >>>>> I scavenged the web a bit to find out some sources. >>>>> >>>>> I also managed to install the plugin in Chrome. >>>>> >>>>> So, it shows in about:plugins >>>>> >>>>> But well, it crashes. >>>>> >>>>> Is anyone here having a working source code and dll that I can put in >>>>> there for testing? >>>> >>>> http://squeakland.org/download/ >>>> >>>> - Bert - >>>> >>>>> Then I could start porting this to embed the VM window in another program. >>>>> >>>>> I've looked at the code mind you, but I first want to see this running >>>>> so that I can step through with a debugger to get a clue of what's >>>>> going on. (I miss self halt...) >>>>> >>>>> TIA >>>>> Philippe >>>>> >>>>> 2012/6/19 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-06-19, at 21:00, [hidden email] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello VMers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP >>>>>>> here) inside a Window application. >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The browser plugin may indeed be your best bet for reference. It starts the VM and redirects its output. You might be able to adapt that code. Possibly the OCX control even just works, or could be made to work easily. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Bert - |
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Also note that there are two OCX versions for IE, plus the plugin for Netscape-compatible browsers (Firefox, Chrome, etc). Korakurider (who makes our Windows installers) uses this in his pluginInstall.nsh: ++++ From Here ++++ macro SQUEAK_PLUGIN_INSTALL ;--- manifest, Plugin DLL for IE--- ${If} $WinVersion == "Vista" File "${AssetFolderWin32}\SqueakOCX2.dll" RegDLL "$INSTDIR\SqueakOCX2.dll" ${ElseIf} $WinVersion == "7" File "${AssetFolderWin32}\SqueakOCX2.dll" RegDLL "$INSTDIR\SqueakOCX2.dll" ${Else} File "${AssetFolderWin32}\SqueakOCX.dll" RegDLL "$INSTDIR\SqueakOCX.dll" ${EndIf} File "${AssetFolderWin32}\NPSqueak.dll" ----- To Here ----- - Bert - On 2012-06-20, at 10:57, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > Etoys uses the official Windows VM, 3.11.4 from http://squeakvm.org/win32/ > > You would have to look at the svn log to find out the corresponding source version. But the plugin code has not changed in 3 years: > > http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/win32/vm/Plugin/ > > - Bert - > > On 2012-06-20, at 01:06, [hidden email] wrote: > >> >> Hey, thanks, works perfectly in Chrome. >> >> Now, where can I find the source of NPSqueak.dll and SqueakOCX.dll ? >> >> I have a version of a npsqueak.dll but it isn't the same thing. This >> one has been modified and crashes my system. >> >> Clues? >> TIA >> Phil >> >> 2012/6/20 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>> >>> >>> On 2012-06-20, at 00:24, [hidden email] wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> There is no plugin there, only etoys. Is the plugin inside? >>> >>> It gets installed with Etoys, yes. >>> >>> After installation, click the "launch" link on a project page. E.g. >>> >>> http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=9655 >>> >>> That runs Squeak inside the browser. >>> >>> - Bert - >>> >>>> 2012/6/20 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-06-20, at 00:14, [hidden email] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I scavenged the web a bit to find out some sources. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also managed to install the plugin in Chrome. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, it shows in about:plugins >>>>>> >>>>>> But well, it crashes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is anyone here having a working source code and dll that I can put in >>>>>> there for testing? >>>>> >>>>> http://squeakland.org/download/ >>>>> >>>>> - Bert - >>>>> >>>>>> Then I could start porting this to embed the VM window in another program. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've looked at the code mind you, but I first want to see this running >>>>>> so that I can step through with a debugger to get a clue of what's >>>>>> going on. (I miss self halt...) >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA >>>>>> Philippe >>>>>> >>>>>> 2012/6/19 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2012-06-19, at 21:00, [hidden email] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello VMers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to see if anybody already had embedded a VM (Windows XP >>>>>>>> here) inside a Window application. >>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And the web browser plugin: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1865 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The browser plugin may indeed be your best bet for reference. It starts the VM and redirects its output. You might be able to adapt that code. Possibly the OCX control even just works, or could be made to work easily. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Bert - |
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On 2012-06-20, at 17:53, Philippe Back wrote: > Any C level source code for the nsplugin? Looks like you missed one of my earlier mails? It's all in svn: > On 2012-06-20, at 10:57, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > > the plugin code has not changed in 3 years: > > > > http://squeakvm.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/trunk/platforms/win32/vm/Plugin/ > > > > - Bert - |
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