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Que envidia de Gustavo, como no se me ocurrió a mi mandar esto a nuestro grupo > Date: Thurs 18 May 2006 16:30 > From: "Gustavo Ibarra" > > Que suerte que tenemos en ser contemporaneos a los grandes > fenomenos/cambios/avances que estan ocurriendo en la tecnologia de la > informacion. > > Para los que no estan en la lista de squek-dev (supongo que pocos), > copio una de las ultimas respuesta de Alan Kay. Este es el Subject: > Re: YASoB (was Re: some news) > > Es como leer, en vida, al inventor de la rabia y la leche (Don > Pasteur) mientras te comenta los por que de las cosas.... > >> I have a feeling that to many Smalltakers, in general, there have been >> no advances in software engineering and computer language design >> since Smalltalk was invented. >> >> When was Smalltalk really invented? > > The idea of objects as message sending computers came to me in Nov 66. I > did several OOP languages between then and 1970. > > >> Was it in 1972 or 1976 or 1980? > > My original plan for Smalltalk was to make a Logo-like language that > combined objects with Carl Hewitt's PLANNER (a pattern directed language > that anticipated most abilities of Prolog by many years) and Ned Irons IMP > (another pattern directed language but aimed at extension by end-users). > This design is now called Smalltalk-71. > > I was working on this when the hallway "bet" with Dan Ingalls and Ted > Kaehler happened in Sept 1972. I worked for several weeks to write a less > than one page McCarthy-like eval for an OOP language that could parse its > own messages. Dan implemented this in Oct 1972, and all of a sudden we had > a working system, which was put right on the Alto when it started working a > few months later. > > >> Did Squeak Central insist on creating things that are worse than >> Smalltalk-72 and the crowd assumed that it is automatically better >> than something "old" like Smalltalk-72? > > Not really. Smalltalk-76 in many ways was the best compromise between the > need for speed and a number of the good features of Smalltalk-72. The > process after Smalltalk-72 was very conditioned by adult programmers making > a system for more for themselves than having children be able to use it as > a top priority. > > >> For that matter, did the commercial Smalltalk vendors insist >> likewise? > > The big problem is that most programmers have a very hard time thinking > about facilitating programming for people who are not like them, and they > also have a very hard time understanding media. > > Cheers, > > Alan ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Autos. Más de 100 vehículos vendidos por día. ¿Qué esperás para vender el tuyo? Hacelo ahora y ganate un premio de Yahoo! http://autos.yahoo.com.ar/vender/ correo electrónico a: [hidden email] correo electrónico a: [hidden email] Enlaces de Yahoo! Grupos <*> Para visitar el sitio web del grupo, andá a: http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/squeakRos/ <*> Para cancelar tu suscripción a este grupo, enviá un mensaje a: [hidden email] <*> El uso de Yahoo! Grupos está sujeto a las: http://ar.docs.yahoo.com/info/utos.html |
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