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Etoys error on startup

Jens Mönig
Hi, I just downloaded the new Etoys and tried to run it on Vista. It came up with an error message informing me about an "invalid utf8 input".

-Jens
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Re: Etoys error on startup

Michael Rueger-6
Jens Moenig wrote:
> Hi, I just downloaded the new Etoys and tried to run it on Vista. It came up
> with an error message informing me about an "invalid utf8 input".

did you try to run it standalone or in a browser?
Is it a German Vista? Would also be helpful if there is a SqueakDebug.log.

Thanks

Michael

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Re: Etoys error on startup

Michael Rueger-6
Jens Mönig wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I tried running Etoys standalone on a German Vista. It won't let me write a
> log (and it doesn't seem to produce one by itself, at least I can't find it
> anywhere). The error seems to occur in SecurityManager >>startup
>>> loadSecurityKeys >>secureUserDirectory. I suspect it has something to do
> with the umlaut in my surname. It looks pretty severe because it opens an

that's what I suspected...
Sigh...

Thanks for sending the information!

Michael

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Re: Etoys error on startup

Markus Schlager-2
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008, Michael Rueger wrote:

> Jens Mönig wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I tried running Etoys standalone on a German Vista. It won't let me write a
>> log (and it doesn't seem to produce one by itself, at least I can't find it
>> anywhere). The error seems to occur in SecurityManager >>startup
>>>> loadSecurityKeys >>secureUserDirectory. I suspect it has something to do
>> with the umlaut in my surname. It looks pretty severe because it opens an
>
> that's what I suspected...
> Sigh...
>
> Thanks for sending the information!
>
> Michael
>
Esther had a similar problem running etoys on ubuntu 6.10, which probably
doesn't use utf8 as locale.

Is the vm-option "-encoding utf-8" the reason?

On ubuntu 8.04 everything is fine, only npsqueakregister seems to be
missing in the .deb

Markus
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Naming Environment-Variables in etoys.sh

Markus Schlager-2
Hallo Michael,

I'm just trying to set up Etoys on our Linux-computers at school. There I
need to change the value of $SQUEAK_USERDIR. The easiest way in this case
would be /etc/environment. I understand that the environment-variable used
by the squeak-vm has to have the name SQUEAK_USERDIR, hasn't it? But we're
using 'real' Squeak as well and I'd love to have different USERDIRs for
these different images. Hence I'd like to have different
environment-variables.

Right now, etoys.sh looks like

----8X--------------------------------------------------------------
[ -z "$SQUEAK_SECUREDIR" ] && export SQUEAK_SECUREDIR="$HOME/.etoys"
[ -z "$SQUEAK_USERDIR" ] && export SQUEAK_USERDIR="$HOME/Etoys"
---------------------------------------------------------X8---------

I'd prefer Etoys to use ETOYS_SECUREDIR and ETOYS_USERDIR (since it's
Etoys, not Squeak :) ). etoys.sh could look like

----8X---------------------------------------------------------------
if [ -z "$ETOYS_SECUREDIR" ]
then
     export SQUEAK_SECUREDIR="$HOME/.etoys"
else
     export SQUEAK_SECUREDIR="$ETOYS_SECUREDIR"
fi
if [ -z "$ETOYS_USERDIR" ]
then
     export SQUEAK_USERDIR="$HOME/Etoys"
else
     export SQUEAK_USERDIR="$ETOYS_USERDIR"
fi
---------------------------------------------------------X8---------

Markus
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Re: Naming Environment-Variables in etoys.sh

K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 16 Sep 2008 12:24:32 am Markus Schlager wrote:
> I'm just trying to set up Etoys on our Linux-computers at school. There I
> need to change the value of $SQUEAK_USERDIR. The easiest way in this case
> would be /etc/environment. I understand that the environment-variable used
> by the squeak-vm has to have the name SQUEAK_USERDIR, hasn't it? But we're
> using 'real' Squeak as well and I'd love to have different USERDIRs for
> these different images. Hence I'd like to have different
> environment-variables
You could also create launcher scripts (*.desktop files aka link to
application) and use the following command:

SQUEAK_USERDIR=myowndir SQUEAK_IMAGE=myimagefile squeak ..

Regards .. Subbu

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Re: Naming Environment-Variables in etoys.sh

Markus Schlager-2
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
> You could also create launcher scripts (*.desktop files aka link to
> application) and use the following command:
>
> SQUEAK_USERDIR=myowndir SQUEAK_IMAGE=myimagefile squeak ..
>

Thanks Subbu, that's a possibility I hadn't thought of.

Markus

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Something wrong with the mailing-list?

Markus Schlager-2
Hi list-admins,

For about two days no, whenever I post to [hidden email], I
receive error-notices from my mail-smarthost like

-----8X------------------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:44:56 -0400
From: [hidden email]
To: Markus Schlager <[hidden email]>
Subject: NDN: Re: [Squeakland] Naming Environment-Variables in etoys.sh
Parts/Attachments:
    1 Shown     5 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
    2   OK    ~25 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
----------------------------------------

Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:

squeak central (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that the
name has been entered correctly.)
------------------------------X8-----

My posts get delivered to the list though.

Markus

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Re: Something wrong with the mailing-list?

Bert Freudenberg
Am 16.09.2008 um 23:32 schrieb Markus Schlager:

> Hi list-admins,
>
> For about two days no, whenever I post to [hidden email],  
> I receive error-notices from my mail-smarthost like
>
> -----8X------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:44:56 -0400
> From: [hidden email]
> To: Markus Schlager <[hidden email]>
> Subject: NDN: Re: [Squeakland] Naming Environment-Variables in  
> etoys.sh
> Parts/Attachments:
>   1 Shown     5 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
>   2   OK    ~25 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
>
> squeak central (The name was not found at the remote site. Check  
> that the
> name has been entered correctly.)
> ------------------------------X8-----
>
> My posts get delivered to the list though.


Yes we have seen this too. But as far as we can tell, this is not  
generated by the list server but by some subscriber's "gateway" and  
sent to the poster directly. We have not figured out yet who is  
responsible for this :(

Sorry for the inconvenience,

- Bert -



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Re: Something wrong with the mailing-list?

Bert Freudenberg

Am 16.09.2008 um 23:43 schrieb Bert Freudenberg:

> Am 16.09.2008 um 23:32 schrieb Markus Schlager:
>
>> Hi list-admins,
>>
>> For about two days no, whenever I post to  
>> [hidden email], I receive error-notices from my mail-
>> smarthost like
>>
>> -----8X------------------------------
>> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:44:56 -0400
>> From: [hidden email]
>> To: Markus Schlager <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: NDN: Re: [Squeakland] Naming Environment-Variables in  
>> etoys.sh
>> Parts/Attachments:
>>  1 Shown     5 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
>>  2   OK    ~25 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
>> ----------------------------------------
>>
>> Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
>>
>> squeak central (The name was not found at the remote site. Check  
>> that the
>> name has been entered correctly.)
>> ------------------------------X8-----
>>
>> My posts get delivered to the list though.
>
>
> Yes we have seen this too. But as far as we can tell, this is not  
> generated by the list server but by some subscriber's "gateway" and  
> sent to the poster directly. We have not figured out yet who is  
> responsible for this :(
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience,


This message triggered the gateway message again and I figured out the  
culprit and disabled his mail delivery. So hopefully the problem  
should be solved now.

- Bert -



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