Experiences with 10342
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Hello Pharoers,
I just load the 10342-dev and here are my observations: - right mouse now works ok by default on my Linux - clipboard works mostly well between Linux-Pharo, sometimes it forgets a new copy on Linux and paste old content instead. But not work yet between VW (on Linux) and Pharo. But this can be a problem on VW side as well. It is very annoying while syncing the code between VA and Pharo. - right click inside browser raise an exception: OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode - loading from MC is much slower that in, say squeak 3.9 - saving MC crashed image (segfault in UUID initalize)! - slow response on every user action (mouse click or keyboard press), specially in browser. This is quite annoying, because it is only app on my PC with such slow response. And my PC is not slow (3.2MHz). Response is near 500ms, which is well above acceptable level which is near 200-300ms. - default look@feel doesn't look very nice, nor professional on my Linux with KDE - window controls are just the opposite and on the opposite side of the default one on Linux! This is very annoying and really a show-stopper IMO, on Linux and also Windows. Can you auto setup the other look@feel by default here, as you did for swapMouse? - renaming just a local method with the same method as in other classes not possible - removing such method not work as well (refactor method>remove) - why refactoring part of right-click menu is not local to method, or category, or class? But don't forget that merits of current Pharo are much bigger than above shortcomings, so accept those critics as an encouragement to do it even better! Best regards Janko -- Janko Mivšek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Janko,
The UUID initialize snag is a VM defect; rename the UUID plugin _folder_ to work around it. I'm with you on speed; it's a problem. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Janko Mivšek Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:01 AM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] Experiences with 10342 Hello Pharoers, I just load the 10342-dev and here are my observations: - right mouse now works ok by default on my Linux - clipboard works mostly well between Linux-Pharo, sometimes it forgets a new copy on Linux and paste old content instead. But not work yet between VW (on Linux) and Pharo. But this can be a problem on VW side as well. It is very annoying while syncing the code between VA and Pharo. - right click inside browser raise an exception: OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode - loading from MC is much slower that in, say squeak 3.9 - saving MC crashed image (segfault in UUID initalize)! - slow response on every user action (mouse click or keyboard press), specially in browser. This is quite annoying, because it is only app on my PC with such slow response. And my PC is not slow (3.2MHz). Response is near 500ms, which is well above acceptable level which is near 200-300ms. - default look@feel doesn't look very nice, nor professional on my Linux with KDE - window controls are just the opposite and on the opposite side of the default one on Linux! This is very annoying and really a show-stopper IMO, on Linux and also Windows. Can you auto setup the other look@feel by default here, as you did for swapMouse? - renaming just a local method with the same method as in other classes not possible - removing such method not work as well (refactor method>remove) - why refactoring part of right-click menu is not local to method, or category, or class? But don't forget that merits of current Pharo are much bigger than above shortcomings, so accept those critics as an encouragement to do it even better! Best regards Janko -- Janko Mivšek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Schwab,Wilhelm K pravi:
> The UUID initialize snag is a VM defect; rename the UUID plugin _folder_ to work around it. I'm with you on speed; it's a problem. Bill thanks, I just remembered a recent talk about that. After installing new VM it works. Janko > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Janko Mivšek > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:01 AM > To: Pharo Development > Subject: [Pharo-project] Experiences with 10342 > > Hello Pharoers, > > I just load the 10342-dev and here are my observations: > > - right mouse now works ok by default on my Linux > > - clipboard works mostly well between Linux-Pharo, sometimes it forgets a new copy on Linux and paste old content instead. But not work yet between VW (on Linux) and Pharo. But this can be a problem on VW side as well. It is very annoying while syncing the code between VA and Pharo. > > - right click inside browser raise an exception: > OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode > > - loading from MC is much slower that in, say squeak 3.9 > > - saving MC crashed image (segfault in UUID initalize)! > > - slow response on every user action (mouse click or keyboard press), specially in browser. This is quite annoying, because it is only app on my PC with such slow response. And my PC is not slow (3.2MHz). Response is near 500ms, which is well above acceptable level which is near 200-300ms. > > - default look@feel doesn't look very nice, nor professional on my Linux with KDE > > - window controls are just the opposite and on the opposite side of the default one on Linux! This is very annoying and really a show-stopper IMO, on Linux and also Windows. Can you auto setup the other look@feel by default here, as you did for swapMouse? > > - renaming just a local method with the same method as in other classes not possible > - removing such method not work as well (refactor method>remove) > - why refactoring part of right-click menu is not local to method, or category, or class? > > But don't forget that merits of current Pharo are much bigger than above shortcomings, so accept those critics as an encouragement to do it even better! > > Best regards > Janko Janko Mivšek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Are you sure? This has been fixed. It should be fixed for sure in 10342. At least it is here :) - saving MC crashed image (segfault in UUID initalize)! As they said, it also has been fixed in new expuer vm.
I would really appreciate this feature also. As I don't use Mac this is weird for me. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Mariano,
Mariano Martinez Peck pravi: > - right click inside browser raise an exception: > OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode > Are you sure? This has been fixed. It should be fixed for sure in 10342. > At least it is here :) Can you therefore send me a fix :) > > > - saving MC crashed image (segfault in UUID initalize)! > > > As they said, it also has been fixed in new expuer vm. solved, thanks. > - window controls are just the opposite and on the opposite side of the > default one on Linux! This is very annoying and really a show-stopper > IMO, on Linux and also Windows. Can you auto setup the other look@feel > by default here, as you did for swapMouse? > > > I would really appreciate this feature also. As I don't use Mac this is > weird for me. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Know anyone a quick and dirty way how to remove methods in this Pharo?
Some keyboard shortcut? I really need to delete some methods just spotted in my code... Janko Janko Mivšek pravi: > Hello Pharoers, > > I just load the 10342-dev and here are my observations: > > - right mouse now works ok by default on my Linux > > - clipboard works mostly well between Linux-Pharo, sometimes it forgets > a new copy on Linux and paste old content instead. But not work yet > between VW (on Linux) and Pharo. But this can be a problem on VW side as > well. It is very annoying while syncing the code between VA and Pharo. > > - right click inside browser raise an exception: > OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode > > - loading from MC is much slower that in, say squeak 3.9 > > - saving MC crashed image (segfault in UUID initalize)! > > - slow response on every user action (mouse click or keyboard press), > specially in browser. This is quite annoying, because it is only app on > my PC with such slow response. And my PC is not slow (3.2MHz). Response > is near 500ms, which is well above acceptable level which is near 200-300ms. > > - default look@feel doesn't look very nice, nor professional on my Linux > with KDE > > - window controls are just the opposite and on the opposite side of the > default one on Linux! This is very annoying and really a show-stopper > IMO, on Linux and also Windows. Can you auto setup the other look@feel > by default here, as you did for swapMouse? > > - renaming just a local method with the same method as in other classes > not possible > - removing such method not work as well (refactor method>remove) > - why refactoring part of right-click menu is not local to method, or > category, or class? > > But don't forget that merits of current Pharo are much bigger than above > shortcomings, so accept those critics as an encouragement to do it even > better! > > Best regards > Janko > > -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2009/6/25 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> Hi Mariano, Sorry. I read quickly and I thought it was isClassNode not isMethodNode. I cannot reproduce this problem neither in Linux and Windows. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2009/6/25 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> Know anyone a quick and dirty way how to remove methods in this Pharo? My experience is that right click -> refactor method -> remove sometimes doesn't work. So, I use right click -> various -> remove method.
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Mariano Martinez Peck pravi:
> > - right click inside browser raise an exception: > > OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode > > > Are you sure? This has been fixed. It should be fixed for sure in > 10342. > > At least it is here :) > Sorry. I read quickly and I thought it was isClassNode not isMethodNode. > I cannot reproduce this problem neither in Linux and Windows. This is a full report of that bug: '25 June 2009 7:37:25 pm VM: unix - i686 - linux-gnu - Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [latest update: #10074] Image: Pharo0.1 [Latest update: #10342] SecurityManager state: Restricted: false FileAccess: true SocketAccess: true Working Dir /home/mivsek/Smalltalk/pharo Trusted Dir /home/mivsek/Smalltalk/pharo/secure Untrusted Dir /home/mivsek/Smalltalk/pharo/My Squeak OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode Receiver: an OBTextSelection Arguments and temporary variables: aMessage: isMethodNode exception: MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode resumeValue: nil Receiver''s instance variables: selection: (22 to: 21) text: a Text for ''isSiteContent ^true'' OBCmdRenameMethodRefactoring>>isActive Receiver: an OBCmdRenameMethodRefactoring Arguments and temporary variables: Receiver''s instance variables: target: an OBTextSelection requestor: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel [] in OBTextCommandScan(OBCommandScan)>>addCommandsOn:for:to: Receiver: an OBTextCommandScan Arguments and temporary variables: aNode: OBCmdRenameMethodRefactoring aRequestor: an OBTextSelection aSet: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel cmd: an IdentitySet(an ORCmdTemporaryToInstvarRefactoring an ORCmdCreateSupercl...etc... ea: an Array(an OBCmdRenameMethodRefactoring) Receiver''s instance variables: factories: an OrderedCollection(ORCmdRenameInstVarRefactoring ORCmdAddInstVarRe...etc... OrderedCollection>>do: Receiver: an OrderedCollection(ORCmdRenameInstVarRefactoring ORCmdAddInstVarRefactoring ORCmdProtect...etc... Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in OBTextCommandScan(OBCommandScan)>>addCommandsOn:for:to: index: 39 Receiver''s instance variables: array: {ORCmdRenameInstVarRefactoring . ORCmdAddInstVarRefactoring . ORCmdProte...etc... firstIndex: 1 lastIndex: 47 OBTextCommandScan(OBCommandScan)>>addCommandsOn:for:to: Receiver: an OBTextCommandScan Arguments and temporary variables: aNode: an OBTextSelection aRequestor: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel aSet: an IdentitySet(an ORCmdTemporaryToInstvarRefactoring an ORCmdCreateSuperc...etc... cmd: an Array(an OBCmdRenameMethodRefactoring) Receiver''s instance variables: factories: an OrderedCollection(ORCmdRenameInstVarRefactoring ORCmdAddInstVarRe...etc... [] in OBTextCommandScan(OBCommandScan)>>populateMenu:withNodes:forRequestor: Receiver: an OBTextCommandScan Arguments and temporary variables: <<error during printing> Receiver''s instance variables: factories: an OrderedCollection(ORCmdRenameInstVarRefactoring ORCmdAddInstVarRe...etc... Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: Receiver: an Array(an OBTextSelection) Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [closure] in OBTextCommandScan(OBCommandScan)>>populateMenu:withNodes:f...etc... index: 1 indexLimiT: 1 Receiver''s instance variables: an Array(an OBTextSelection) OBTextCommandScan(OBCommandScan)>>populateMenu:withNodes:forRequestor: Receiver: an OBTextCommandScan Arguments and temporary variables: aMenu: a MenuMorph(15) aCollection: an Array(an OBTextSelection) aRequestor: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel commands: an IdentitySet(an ORCmdTemporaryToInstvarRefactoring an ORCmdCreateSu...etc... cluster: nil Receiver''s instance variables: factories: an OrderedCollection(ORCmdRenameInstVarRefactoring ORCmdAddInstVarRe...etc... OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>>addTextCommandsToMenu:selection: Receiver: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel Arguments and temporary variables: aMenu: a MenuMorph(15) aTextSelection: an OBTextSelection scan: an OBTextCommandScan Receiver''s instance variables: browser: an OBPackageBrowser definition: an OBMethodDefinition selection: (1 to: 0) codeTabPanel: nil morph: a RectangleMorph(412) contentMorph: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel(OBTextPanel)>>menu:shifted:selection: Receiver: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel Arguments and temporary variables: aMenu: a MenuMorph(15) aBoolean: false aTextSelection: an OBTextSelection Receiver''s instance variables: browser: an OBPackageBrowser definition: an OBMethodDefinition selection: (1 to: 0) codeTabPanel: nil morph: a RectangleMorph(412) contentMorph: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(OBPluggableTextMorph)>>getMenu: Receiver: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Arguments and temporary variables: shiftKeyState: false menu: a MenuMorph(15) aMenu: nil aTitle: nil Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: a RectangleMorph(412) submorphs: an Array(a TransformMorph(1280)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color transparent extension: a MorphExtension (3844) [other: (layoutProperties -> a LayoutProper...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black model: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel slotName: nil open: false scrollBar: a ScrollBar(688) scroller: a TransformMorph(1280) retractableScrollBar: false scrollBarOnLeft: false getMenuSelector: #menu:shifted: getMenuTitleSelector: nil hasFocus: false hScrollBar: a ScrollBar(3740) textMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(3974) getTextSelector: #text setTextSelector: #accept:notifying: getSelectionSelector: #selection hasUnacceptedEdits: true askBeforeDiscardingEdits: true selectionInterval: (22 to: 21) hasEditingConflicts: false styler: a SHTextStylerST80 unstyledAcceptText: nil OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(PluggableTextMorph)>>yellowButtonActivity: Receiver: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Arguments and temporary variables: shiftKeyState: false menu: nil Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: a RectangleMorph(412) submorphs: an Array(a TransformMorph(1280)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color transparent extension: a MorphExtension (3844) [other: (layoutProperties -> a LayoutProper...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black model: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel slotName: nil open: false scrollBar: a ScrollBar(688) scroller: a TransformMorph(1280) retractableScrollBar: false scrollBarOnLeft: false getMenuSelector: #menu:shifted: getMenuTitleSelector: nil hasFocus: false hScrollBar: a ScrollBar(3740) textMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(3974) getTextSelector: #text setTextSelector: #accept:notifying: getSelectionSelector: #selection hasUnacceptedEdits: true askBeforeDiscardingEdits: true selectionInterval: (22 to: 21) hasEditingConflicts: false styler: a SHTextStylerST80 unstyledAcceptText: nil OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(ScrollPane)>>mouseDown: Receiver: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Arguments and temporary variables: evt: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: a RectangleMorph(412) submorphs: an Array(a TransformMorph(1280)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color transparent extension: a MorphExtension (3844) [other: (layoutProperties -> a LayoutProper...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black model: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel slotName: nil open: false scrollBar: a ScrollBar(688) scroller: a TransformMorph(1280) retractableScrollBar: false scrollBarOnLeft: false getMenuSelector: #menu:shifted: getMenuTitleSelector: nil hasFocus: false hScrollBar: a ScrollBar(3740) textMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(3974) getTextSelector: #text setTextSelector: #accept:notifying: getSelectionSelector: #selection hasUnacceptedEdits: true askBeforeDiscardingEdits: true selectionInterval: (22 to: 21) hasEditingConflicts: false styler: a SHTextStylerST80 unstyledAcceptText: nil OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>>handleMouseDown: Receiver: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: a RectangleMorph(412) submorphs: an Array(a TransformMorph(1280)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color transparent extension: a MorphExtension (3844) [other: (layoutProperties -> a LayoutProper...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black model: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel slotName: nil open: false scrollBar: a ScrollBar(688) scroller: a TransformMorph(1280) retractableScrollBar: false scrollBarOnLeft: false getMenuSelector: #menu:shifted: getMenuTitleSelector: nil hasFocus: false hScrollBar: a ScrollBar(3740) textMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(3974) getTextSelector: #text setTextSelector: #accept:notifying: getSelectionSelector: #selection hasUnacceptedEdits: true askBeforeDiscardingEdits: true selectionInterval: (22 to: 21) hasEditingConflicts: false styler: a SHTextStylerST80 unstyledAcceptText: nil OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(OBPluggableTextMorph)>>handleMouseDown: Receiver: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Arguments and temporary variables: event: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: a RectangleMorph(412) submorphs: an Array(a TransformMorph(1280)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color transparent extension: a MorphExtension (3844) [other: (layoutProperties -> a LayoutProper...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black model: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel slotName: nil open: false scrollBar: a ScrollBar(688) scroller: a TransformMorph(1280) retractableScrollBar: false scrollBarOnLeft: false getMenuSelector: #menu:shifted: getMenuTitleSelector: nil hasFocus: false hScrollBar: a ScrollBar(3740) textMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(3974) getTextSelector: #text setTextSelector: #accept:notifying: getSelectionSelector: #selection hasUnacceptedEdits: true askBeforeDiscardingEdits: true selectionInterval: (22 to: 21) hasEditingConflicts: false styler: a SHTextStylerST80 unstyledAcceptText: nil MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: Receiver: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] Arguments and temporary variables: anObject: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Receiver''s instance variables: timeStamp: 4837600 source: a HandMorph(3216) windowIndex: nil type: #mouseDown buttons: 2 position: 299@546 handler: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) wasHandled: true whichButton: 2 OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>>handleEvent: Receiver: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: a RectangleMorph(412) submorphs: an Array(a TransformMorph(1280)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color transparent extension: a MorphExtension (3844) [other: (layoutProperties -> a LayoutProper...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black model: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel slotName: nil open: false scrollBar: a ScrollBar(688) scroller: a TransformMorph(1280) retractableScrollBar: false scrollBarOnLeft: false getMenuSelector: #menu:shifted: getMenuTitleSelector: nil hasFocus: false hScrollBar: a ScrollBar(3740) textMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(3974) getTextSelector: #text setTextSelector: #accept:notifying: getSelectionSelector: #selection hasUnacceptedEdits: true askBeforeDiscardingEdits: true selectionInterval: (22 to: 21) hasEditingConflicts: false styler: a SHTextStylerST80 unstyledAcceptText: nil MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchMouseDown:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) globalPt: 299@546 localEvt: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] index: 2 child: a TransformMorph(1280) morphs: an Array(a TransformMorph(1280)) handler: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) inside: nil lastHandler: a SystemWindow(1414) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(Morph)>>processEvent:using: Receiver: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] defaultDispatcher: a MorphicEventDispatcher Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: a RectangleMorph(412) submorphs: an Array(a TransformMorph(1280)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color transparent extension: a MorphExtension (3844) [other: (layoutProperties -> a LayoutProper...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black model: an OBEnhancementDefinitionPanel slotName: nil open: false scrollBar: a ScrollBar(688) scroller: a TransformMorph(1280) retractableScrollBar: false scrollBarOnLeft: false getMenuSelector: #menu:shifted: getMenuTitleSelector: nil hasFocus: false hScrollBar: a ScrollBar(3740) textMorph: an OBTextMorphWithShout(3974) getTextSelector: #text setTextSelector: #accept:notifying: getSelectionSelector: #selection hasUnacceptedEdits: true askBeforeDiscardingEdits: true selectionInterval: (22 to: 21) hasEditingConflicts: false styler: a SHTextStylerST80 unstyledAcceptText: nil MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchMouseDown:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: a RectangleMorph(412) globalPt: 299@546 localEvt: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] index: 1 child: an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070) morphs: an Array(an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070)) handler: nil inside: nil lastHandler: a SystemWindow(1414) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: a RectangleMorph(412) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: RectangleMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: Receiver: a RectangleMorph(412) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] defaultDispatcher: a MorphicEventDispatcher Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: a RectangleMorph(859) submorphs: an Array(an OBPluggableTextMorphWithShout(3070)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color white extension: a MorphExtension (757) [other: (layoutPolicy -> a TableLayout) (lay...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchMouseDown:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: a RectangleMorph(859) globalPt: 299@546 localEvt: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] index: 1 child: a RectangleMorph(412) morphs: an Array(a RectangleMorph(412)) handler: nil inside: nil lastHandler: a SystemWindow(1414) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: a RectangleMorph(859) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: RectangleMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: Receiver: a RectangleMorph(859) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] defaultDispatcher: a MorphicEventDispatcher Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 owner: an OBGroupingMorph(3552) submorphs: an Array(a RectangleMorph(412)) fullBounds: 175@507 corner: 965@686 color: Color white extension: a MorphExtension (518) [other: (layoutPolicy -> a TableLayout) (lay...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: Color black MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchMouseDown:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: an OBGroupingMorph(3552) globalPt: 299@546 localEvt: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] index: 3 child: a RectangleMorph(859) morphs: an Array(an OBPluggableTextMorph(3006) a BorderedSubpaneDividerMorph(20...etc... handler: nil inside: nil lastHandler: a SystemWindow(1414) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: an OBGroupingMorph(3552) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: OBGroupingMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: Receiver: an OBGroupingMorph(3552) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] defaultDispatcher: a MorphicEventDispatcher Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 175@479 corner: 965@686 owner: a SystemWindow(1414) submorphs: an Array(an OBPluggableTextMorph(3006) a BorderedSubpaneDividerMorph...etc... fullBounds: 175@479 corner: 965@686 color: Color white extension: a MorphExtension (2412) [locked] [eventHandler = an EventHandler; m...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: (Color r: 0.667 g: 0.667 b: 0.667) MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchMouseDown:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: a SystemWindow(1414) globalPt: 299@546 localEvt: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] index: 11 child: an OBGroupingMorph(3552) morphs: an Array(a WindowEdgeGripMorph(545) a WindowEdgeGripMorph(152) a Window...etc... handler: a SystemWindow(1414) inside: nil lastHandler: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: a SystemWindow(1414) Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: SystemWindow(Morph)>>processEvent:using: Receiver: a SystemWindow(1414) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] defaultDispatcher: a MorphicEventDispatcher Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 170@241 corner: 970@691 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: an Array(a WindowEdgeGripMorph(545) a WindowEdgeGripMorph(152) a Win...etc... fullBounds: 170@241 corner: 971@692 color: (Color r: 0.816 g: 0.812 b: 0.812) extension: a MorphExtension (2430) [other: (layoutPolicy -> a ProportionalLayo...etc... borderWidth: 1 borderColor: Color lightGray model: an OBPackageBrowser slotName: nil open: false labelString: ''OB Package Browser: SiteContent'' stripes: an Array(a RectangleMorph(1822) a RectangleMorph(1788)) label: a LabelMorph(3105)''OB Package Browser: SiteContent'' closeBox: a MultistateButtonMorph(3576) collapseBox: a MultistateButtonMorph(2334) activeOnlyOnTop: true paneMorphs: an Array(an OBGroupingMorph(3552) an OBGroupingMorph(1802)) paneRects: nil collapsedFrame: nil fullFrame: 170@241 corner: 970@691 isCollapsed: false menuBox: an IconicButton(1895) mustNotClose: false labelWidgetAllowance: 126 updatablePanes: #() allowReframeHandles: true labelArea: an AlignmentMorph(512) expandBox: a MultistateButtonMorph(2433) MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchMouseDown:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] globalPt: 299@546 localEvt: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] index: 2 child: a SystemWindow(1414) morphs: an Array(a TaskbarMorph(3095) a SystemWindow(1414) a PluggableStandardW...etc... handler: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] inside: nil lastHandler: nil Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: #dispatchMouseDown:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: Receiver: a MorphicEventDispatcher Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] aMorph: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] Receiver''s instance variables: lastType: #mouseDown lastDispatch: 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SystemWindow(14...etc... fullBounds: nil color: (Color r: 0.97 g: 0.98 b: 1.0) extension: a MorphExtension (2543) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] [other: (...etc... borderWidth: 0 borderColor: (Color r: 0.03 g: 0.02 b: 0.0) presenter: a Presenter (1246) model: a MorphicModel(1926) cursor: 1 padding: 3 backgroundMorph: nil isPartsBin: nil autoLineLayout: false indicateCursor: nil resizeToFit: nil wantsMouseOverHalos: nil worldState: a WorldState griddingOn: nil HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: Receiver: a HandMorph(3216) Arguments and temporary variables: anEvent: [299@546 mouseDown yellow 4837600 nil] focusHolder: nil aBlock: [closure] in HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: result: nil Receiver''s instance variables: bounds: 477@287 corner: 493@303 owner: a PasteUpMorph(1622) [world] submorphs: #() fullBounds: 477@287 corner: 493@303 color: Color blue extension: a MorphExtension (539) [eventHandler = an EventHandler] mouseFocus: nil keyboardFocus: nil eventListeners: nil mouseListeners: nil 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Mariano Martinez Peck pravi:
> Know anyone a quick and dirty way how to remove methods in this Pharo? > Some keyboard shortcut? I really need to delete some methods just > spotted in my code... > > > My experience is that right click -> refactor method -> remove sometimes > doesn't work. So, I use right click -> various -> remove method. This one is just too hidden ... :) Thanks Janko -- Janko Mivšek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2009/6/25 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> Mariano Martinez Peck pravi: Yes. I think because it will then be removed. But I use it because, as I said, with the other option sometimes I have problems.
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I opened a ticket: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=905
2009/6/25 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>
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Thanks.
As soon as we go beta we will really have to check and shake pharo. BTW for the package browser, david cleanup all the menus. I do not know if this is in the last version. Stef On Jun 25, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: > Hello Pharoers, > > I just load the 10342-dev and here are my observations: > > - right mouse now works ok by default on my Linux > > - clipboard works mostly well between Linux-Pharo, sometimes it > forgets > a new copy on Linux and paste old content instead. But not work yet > between VW (on Linux) and Pharo. But this can be a problem on VW > side as > well. It is very annoying while syncing the code between VA and Pharo. > > - right click inside browser raise an exception: > OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode > > - loading from MC is much slower that in, say squeak 3.9 > > - saving MC crashed image (segfault in UUID initalize)! > > - slow response on every user action (mouse click or keyboard press), > specially in browser. This is quite annoying, because it is only app > on > my PC with such slow response. And my PC is not slow (3.2MHz). > Response > is near 500ms, which is well above acceptable level which is near > 200-300ms. > > - default look@feel doesn't look very nice, nor professional on my > Linux > with KDE > > - window controls are just the opposite and on the opposite side of > the > default one on Linux! This is very annoying and really a show-stopper > IMO, on Linux and also Windows. Can you auto setup the other look@feel > by default here, as you did for swapMouse? > > - renaming just a local method with the same method as in other > classes > not possible > - removing such method not work as well (refactor method>remove) > - why refactoring part of right-click menu is not local to method, or > category, or class? > > But don't forget that merits of current Pharo are much bigger than > above > shortcomings, so accept those critics as an encouragement to do it > even > better! > > Best regards > Janko > > > -- > Janko Mivšek > AIDA/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Janko,
Right click, various|remove method - is that what you need? I'm using a 324 image, so perhaps something has been removed in recent updates. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Janko Mivšek Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:13 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Experiences with 10342 Know anyone a quick and dirty way how to remove methods in this Pharo? Some keyboard shortcut? I really need to delete some methods just spotted in my code... Janko Janko Mivšek pravi: > Hello Pharoers, > > I just load the 10342-dev and here are my observations: > > - right mouse now works ok by default on my Linux > > - clipboard works mostly well between Linux-Pharo, sometimes it > forgets a new copy on Linux and paste old content instead. But not > work yet between VW (on Linux) and Pharo. But this can be a problem on > VW side as well. It is very annoying while syncing the code between VA and Pharo. > > - right click inside browser raise an exception: > OBTextSelection(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #isMethodNode > > - loading from MC is much slower that in, say squeak 3.9 > > - saving MC crashed image (segfault in UUID initalize)! > > - slow response on every user action (mouse click or keyboard press), > specially in browser. This is quite annoying, because it is only app > on my PC with such slow response. And my PC is not slow (3.2MHz). > Response is near 500ms, which is well above acceptable level which is near 200-300ms. > > - default look@feel doesn't look very nice, nor professional on my > Linux with KDE > > - window controls are just the opposite and on the opposite side of > the default one on Linux! This is very annoying and really a > show-stopper IMO, on Linux and also Windows. Can you auto setup the > other look@feel by default here, as you did for swapMouse? > > - renaming just a local method with the same method as in other > classes not possible > - removing such method not work as well (refactor method>remove) > - why refactoring part of right-click menu is not local to method, or > category, or class? > > But don't forget that merits of current Pharo are much bigger than > above shortcomings, so accept those critics as an encouragement to do > it even better! > > Best regards > Janko > > -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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So there will no way to simply remove a method? I
am a big fan of the RB, until if feels the need to rewrite my code, at which
point I _usually_ say thanks, but NO. Beyond preferences for formatting,
respect for placement of comments, etc., removing code can be the ultimate
expression of changing, not simply refactoring code; the latter at least started
out as behavior-preserving transformations. The RB is a great tool for
what it does, but it is not the ultimate answer to editing; I respectfully urge
that we should not mistake it for such.
Apologies if I have let my hair trigger get bumped on
this one :)
Bill
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:51 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Experiences with 10342 2009/6/25 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> Mariano Martinez Peck pravi: Yes. I think because it will then be removed. But I use it because, as I said, with the other option sometimes I have problems.
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normally yes.
cmd-X and remove may be it was removed by error On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > So there will no way to simply remove a method? I am a big fan of > the RB, until if feels the need to rewrite my code, at which point I > _usually_ say thanks, but NO. Beyond preferences for formatting, > respect for placement of comments, etc., removing code can be the > ultimate expression of changing, not simply refactoring code; the > latter at least started out as behavior-preserving transformations. > The RB is a great tool for what it does, but it is not the ultimate > answer to editing; I respectfully urge that we should not mistake it > for such. > > Apologies if I have let my hair trigger get bumped on this one :) > > Bill > > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email] > ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:51 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Experiences with 10342 > > > > > 2009/6/25 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> > Mariano Martinez Peck pravi: > > > Know anyone a quick and dirty way how to remove methods in > this Pharo? > > Some keyboard shortcut? I really need to delete some methods > just > > spotted in my code... > > > > > > My experience is that right click -> refactor method -> remove > sometimes > > doesn't work. So, I use right click -> various -> remove method. > > This one is just too hidden ... :) > > Yes. I think because it will then be removed. But I use it because, > as I said, with the other option sometimes I have problems. > > > > > Thanks > Janko > > -- > Janko Mivšek > AIDA/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Jun 25, 2009, at 19:00 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>> - window controls are just the opposite and on the opposite side of >> the >> default one on Linux! This is very annoying and really a show-stopper >> IMO, on Linux and also Windows. Can you auto setup the other >> look@feel >> by default here, as you did for swapMouse? > > > I would really appreciate this feature also. As I don't use Mac this > is > weird for me. Is there a preference that would need to be made platform dependent? I don't quite understand (probably since I am on Mac). Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote:
It would be nice :) As the swapMouseButtons! In Mac, you have the controls to minimize, maximize and close a windows on the top left of the windows. In Linux and Windows, this is on the right. So...using Polymorph in Linux or Windows is a bit weird for us. Greetings, Mariano
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2009/6/25 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>:
>> Is there a preference that would need to be made platform dependent? I >> don't quite understand (probably since I am on Mac). > > It would be nice :) As the swapMouseButtons! > In Mac, you have the controls to minimize, maximize and close a windows on > the top left of the windows. In Linux and Windows, this is on the right. > So...using Polymorph in Linux or Windows is a bit weird for us. Just changing the Polymorph theme would do it I guess. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Agreed. I suppose there could be a platform-dependent theme option that would make a reasonabl choice, but one should be able to override to use any theme anywhere. One possible solution would be to add some sample scripts (could be as simple as do-its in a workspace) that customize a few things.
<whackDeadHorse>We should probably be more concerned about how long it takes to open a browser than we are about which of the various wonderful themes is selected by default.</whackDeadHorse> Bill -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 2:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Experiences with 10342 2009/6/25 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >> Is there a preference that would need to be made platform dependent? >> I don't quite understand (probably since I am on Mac). > > It would be nice :) As the swapMouseButtons! > In Mac, you have the controls to minimize, maximize and close a > windows on the top left of the windows. In Linux and Windows, this is on the right. > So...using Polymorph in Linux or Windows is a bit weird for us. Just changing the Polymorph theme would do it I guess. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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