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Feedback for News Team - Links on Weekly Squeak

Ron Teitelbaum
Hi all,

Some blog links were added to the Weekly Squeak.  When I asked why the only
comment I got was that we have a blog aggregator already
http://planet.squeak.org (which I took as a suggestion that these links are
not necessary)

What I'd like to ask everyone is this:

1) Should the Weekly Squeak have external links on it?  
        1a) If you think we should have links what links should we have?
        1b) What should be the criteria, and process for changing the list?

Or:

2) Should we replace these links with internal links like planet.squeak.org?

Feel free to respond on or off list.

Thank you for your feedback,

Ron Teitelbaum
Squeak News Team Leader


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Re: Feedback for News Team - Links on Weekly Squeak

Michael Davies-2
On Nov 15, 2007 7:43 PM, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Some blog links were added to the Weekly Squeak.

Hi Ron,

That was me experimenting with the blog-roll function - I'm sorry to
say I wasn't aware of the function of planet.squeak.org, and so I'd
started replicating its role! My apologies to all for any confusion
caused.

> When I asked why the only
> comment I got was that we have a blog aggregator already
> http://planet.squeak.org (which I took as a suggestion that these links are
> not necessary)
>
> What I'd like to ask everyone is this:
>
> 1) Should the Weekly Squeak have external links on it?
>         1a) If you think we should have links what links should we have?
>         1b) What should be the criteria, and process for changing the list?

Interesting question - one thing I hadn't realised until you asked it
is that we don't even have a link to the Squeak homepage from
news.squeak.org at the moment! Adding that seems a good idea.

> 2) Should we replace these links with internal links like planet.squeak.org?
>

It's neater to maintain the list once, so I'm happy that we should
replace what I've done with a link to planet.squeak.org. That does
raise one point though: it might be confusing if people clicked on
such a link to find it contained many articles that they had just read
on news.squeak.org. Is there any value in treating news.squeak.org and
planet.squeak.org as separate feeds - ie separating the news from the
personal articles? That would also make it possible for sites to show
headlines from both news.squeak and planet.squeak, which would help
raise the visibility of the latter.

Cheers,
Michael

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RE: Feedback for News Team - Links on Weekly Squeak

Ron Teitelbaum
Hi Michael,

Thanks.  Having the links there too is not an issue, I just wanted to make
sure we were clear how they get there if we wanted to keep them.  So you
would vote to remove them and replace with planet.squeak.org and
www.squeak.org.  

Should we also consider any other links like the wiki or tutorials?  Maybe
we should give control of those links to the web team, or just replicate the
links that are on www.squeak.org now?

I asked before but I'm not sure we ever got an answer.  Should we include a
donate link for SqF?

As for removing weekly squeak articles from planet, I'm sure there are some
people that only read our articles from planet.squeak.org.  I'm not sure
that it is confusing enough to want to separate the two.

Thanks,
Ron Teitelbaum

> From: Michael Davies
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 7:43 PM, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Some blog links were added to the Weekly Squeak.
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> That was me experimenting with the blog-roll function - I'm sorry to
> say I wasn't aware of the function of planet.squeak.org, and so I'd
> started replicating its role! My apologies to all for any confusion
> caused.
>
> > When I asked why the only
> > comment I got was that we have a blog aggregator already
> > http://planet.squeak.org (which I took as a suggestion that these links
> are
> > not necessary)
> >
> > What I'd like to ask everyone is this:
> >
> > 1) Should the Weekly Squeak have external links on it?
> >         1a) If you think we should have links what links should we have?
> >         1b) What should be the criteria, and process for changing the
> list?
>
> Interesting question - one thing I hadn't realised until you asked it
> is that we don't even have a link to the Squeak homepage from
> news.squeak.org at the moment! Adding that seems a good idea.
>
> > 2) Should we replace these links with internal links like
> planet.squeak.org?
> >
>
> It's neater to maintain the list once, so I'm happy that we should
> replace what I've done with a link to planet.squeak.org. That does
> raise one point though: it might be confusing if people clicked on
> such a link to find it contained many articles that they had just read
> on news.squeak.org. Is there any value in treating news.squeak.org and
> planet.squeak.org as separate feeds - ie separating the news from the
> personal articles? That would also make it possible for sites to show
> headlines from both news.squeak and planet.squeak, which would help
> raise the visibility of the latter.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael


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RE: Feedback for News Team - Links on Weekly Squeak

Ken Causey-3
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 17:40 -0500, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
> As for removing weekly squeak articles from planet, I'm sure there are some
> people that only read our articles from planet.squeak.org.  I'm not sure
> that it is confusing enough to want to separate the two.
>
> Thanks,
> Ron Teitelbaum

Yes, I checkout Planet Squeak almost daily but rarely see any reason to
visit Squeak News separately.  Also, I think the concept of a blog
aggregator is sufficiently well-known and that a blog (which Squeak News
is fundamentally) linking to it's primary blog aggregator(s) is not at
all unusual.

Ken



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