Fixed-Width Font

For my PluggableListMorph, the model prepares list elements on a "String new writeStream."
They are not static. I need for these list elements to be aligned in columns like a small
spreadsheet. A fixed font would be handy - how can I install one?

Any other approaches to get columns in a list?

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I want this too. What needs to be done is to make a StrikeFont, IIRC. I didn't get a round toit. If anyone has an extra round toit that I can borrow, I'd be very appreciative.

Anyway I think if you look around at the class StrikeFont, you'll find a trailhead or rabbit hole that you can follow toward how to #doIt.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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On 9 Jul 2015 at 19:11, Casey Ransberger wrote:

> I want this too. What needs to be done is to make a StrikeFont,
> IIRC. I didn't get a round toit. If anyone has an extra round toit
> that I can borrow, I'd be very appreciative.
>
Thought I had one... must be around here somewhere... :(

> Anyway I think if you look around at the class StrikeFont, you'll
> find a trailhead or rabbit hole that you can follow toward how to
> #doIt.
>
Browsing through strike fonts, I see no fixed widths. But, true type fonts have a few
fixed-width examples. There seems to be no way to install a .ttf in Cuis currently.

Can we port TrueType-Support from Squeak?

Should there be a sibling of StrikeFont, say TrueTypeFont, which inherits from AbstractFont?

Any hints or guidance would be most welcomed.

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On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 10:20 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
I'd like a fixed-width font as well but I suspect that this is one of
the areas it might be better to wait until Morphic 3 on (i.e. isn't the
existing font support based on bitmap fonts rather than vector?)



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On 10 Jul 2015 at 13:29, Phil (list) wrote:

Yes, the only font now is DejaVu and it's a bitmap font. I found some fixed bitmap fonts
among the true types at:

http://www.lowing.org/fonts/

Adding a sublcass to AbstractFont to load one of these might be doable near-term until
Morphic 3 comes along. Porting TrueType from Squeak has a lot of drag.



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> Yes, the only font now is DejaVu and it's a bitmap font. I found some fixed bitmap fonts
> among the true types at:
>
> http://www.lowing.org/fonts/
>
> Adding a sublcass to AbstractFont to load one of these might be doable near-term until
> Morphic 3 comes along. Porting TrueType from Squeak has a lot of drag.

My Cuis-Smalltalk-Unicode package subclasses AbstractFont and provides fixed width characters.

See class #UniForms

Unicode is kinda big, memory wise.  I suspect one should be able to take the ASCII subset of the Unicode glyphs and make a strike font -- or just do what I did for Unicode, but just use the ASCII subset.

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Hi Folks,

It is not too hard to build new StrikeFonts. You need to build, by hand,
files like the ones in here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13285702/BitmapDejaVuAllSizes.zip 
and learn a bit about stuff like #installDejaVu2 . Maybe it was with
this method and the files in this zip that built the existing instances
of StrikeFont. Not sure.

I think DejaVu Sans Mono would be a great addition, and would look well
to the existing DejaVu Sans.

In any case, don't be afraid, and play with the stuff. It is there so
you can do it.

BTW, yesterday I learnt about https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode . I
think it is wonderful. We can't just adopt it, as we don't have
ligatures. But maybe some time, Morphic 3 could be made to use it.

Cheers,
Juan vuletich

On 7/8/2015 9:03 PM, Dan Norton wrote:
> For my PluggableListMorph, the model prepares list elements on a "String new writeStream."
> They are not static. I need for these list elements to be aligned in columns like a small
> spreadsheet. A fixed font would be handy - how can I install one?
>
> Any other approaches to get columns in a list?
>
>   - Dan


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On 7/10/2015 11:20 AM, Dan Norton wrote:
I'd say, stick to StrikeFonts, and learn to build new ones. I the other
message I just sent, I included more details.

Cheers,
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On 7/10/2015 4:05 PM, Dan Norton wrote:
> ...
> Yes, the only font now is DejaVu and it's a bitmap font. I found some fixed bitmap fonts
> among the true types at:
>
> http://www.lowing.org/fonts/
>
> Adding a sublcass to AbstractFont to load one of these might be doable near-term until
> Morphic 3 comes along. Porting TrueType from Squeak has a lot of drag.
>

ProFontWindows doesn't look bad. In any case, I built the Bitmap DejaVu
fonts in Cuis (and Squeak and Pharo) by capturing the bits from the
screen of a text editor, running the TTF. You can do the same with
DejaVu Sans Mono or any other TTF / OTF / whatever.

Cheers,
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Hi Folks,

It is not too hard to build new StrikeFonts. You need to build, by hand, files like the ones in here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13285702/BitmapDejaVuAllSizes.zip and learn a bit about stuff like #installDejaVu2 . Maybe it was with this method and the files in this zip that built the existing instances of StrikeFont. Not sure.

I think DejaVu Sans Mono would be a great addition, and would look well to the existing DejaVu Sans.

In any case, don't be afraid, and play with the stuff. It is there so you can do it.

BTW, yesterday I learnt about https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode . I think it is wonderful. We can't just adopt it, as we don't have ligatures. But maybe some time, Morphic 3 could be made to use it.

Cheers,
Juan vuletich

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For my PluggableListMorph, the model prepares list elements on a "String new writeStream."

They are not static. I need for these list elements to be aligned in columns like a small

spreadsheet. A fixed font would be handy - how can I install one?

Any other approaches to get columns in a list?

 - Dan

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Hi Edgar,

Is there such a project? Any reference?

Thanks,
Juan Vuletich

On 7/11/2015 5:24 PM, Edgar J De Cleene wrote:

Quoting Casey

If we can throw in some HyperCard and... 

A long time algo wish Squeak could read HyperCard stacks.

If Cuis could do this , bet we have thousands users.

Anyway whats the HyperCard status ?

 

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 I think there was something like that. Need to search in the Squeak
list. And check the porting effort. Might be doable with Cuis these
days.

--Hannes

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On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, H. Hirzel wrote:

I think there was something like that. Need to search in the Squeak

list. And check the porting effort. Might be doable with Cuis these

days.

--Hannes

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Hi Edgar,

Is there such a project? Any reference?

Thanks,

Juan Vuletich

On 7/11/2015 5:24 PM, Edgar J De Cleene wrote:

Quoting Casey

If we can throw in some HyperCard and...

A long time algo wish Squeak could read HyperCard stacks.

If Cuis could do this , bet we have thousands users.

Anyway whats the HyperCard status ?

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HyperCard Factoids

- The reason that HyperCard failed to support color for many years was that the project leader was color blind and could not see using all those extra bits just to support color. [Someone at Apple told me this, I forget who.]

- The original Myst was developed & deployed using HyperCard. [I found this out from Robyn and Rand Miller when they visited Apple.]

FYI,
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At the moment my interest is in creating a very small subset of Hypercard

Pictures on cards with a caption and buttons. Plus cards with bullet lists.

I postpone the direct manipulation aspect currently. I describe what
is on the cards with Smalltalk (you may call it a "DSL" for describing
stacks). And I have a reader for MarkDown and other similar types of
input.

These very days I focus on generating export formats (Just a sequence
of JPEGs to put on a tablet as is, LibreOffice Writer, LibreOffice
Impress, Large JPEG with many cards to create a poster, Microsoft
Word, Powerpoint, Markdown e.g. https://www.swipe.to/).  I work on
Pharo 4 at the moment and I aim at easy porting to Cuis.

More interaction will come later (drag and drop activities).


For a fairly recent Hypercard in Smalltalk / Squeak discussions see
the Squeak mailing list

Feb 24, 2013 at 10:54 AM
About HyperCard

A thread started by Edgar. I downloaded the sample image and could run
a stack like the Hypercard help stack in Squeak (screen shot
attached).


Below an extract of that thread.

-- Hannes


Feb 24, 2013 at 10:54 AM
About HyperCard

http://www.vpri.org/pdf/m2011001_dbjr_spec.pdf

DynaBook Junior Specification
by Ted Kaehler
14 Jan 2009. (Minor corrections 13 Dec 2010)
A specification for DynaBook Junior
shown in itself.
DBJr is a desktop publishing framework and
application builder that is modeled after Apple's HyperCard.

Abstract
DynaBook Junior is a desktop publishing
framework and application builder that is
modeled after Apple's HyperCard(tm). The
purpose of this specification is as a starting
point for the discovery of an extremely simple
way to describe and automatically generate
DynaBook Junior. The specification describes
stacks, pages, backgrounds, objects
embedded in pages, the front-to-back ordering
of objects, and page-specific objects. This
document is itself a DBJr stack that shows
examples of the features it describes.
Algorithms for showing a new page, adding
pages, adding backgrounds, and adding
objects to a page are given in pseudocode.


http://tinlizzie.org/lesserphic2/

download the example stack
http://tinlizzie.org/lesserphic2/aboutDBJr%205-Aug.morph
in addition, locate it with the file browser and then choose 'load as morph'

....
While the DynaBookJr (I always misread "DBJr" as "DataBase Jr") is
indeed a good modern replacement for HyperCard, isn't the normal
BookMorph already available in Squeak a reasonable approximation?

...
The Lesserphic version of DBJr is considered to be obsolete.  It uses
the "Etoys-style" uniclasses for pages but we later figured out a
simpler way of implementing it.
...


http://www.vpri.org/pdf/m2013003_ksapps.pdf


... research report 'Making
applications in KSWorld' and the equally interesting report of October
2012 'A Report on KScript and KSWorld'
http://www.vpri.org/html/writings.php

Chapter 6 of the the October report talks about  the hosting
environment which happens to be Squeak

<citation>
Hosting Environment: Squeak
As of this writing, the KSWorld is hosted on top of Squeak Smalltalk [10]. A
special Morphic widget called KSMorph is created under RectangleMorph.
</citation>


....

In the new document, Section
7.1 discusses the "Document Model" and Section 8.9 says it took about
200 lines to implement.




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On 10 Jul 2015 at 16:51, Ken.Dickey wrote:

That is awesome, Ken.

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On 11 Jul 2015 at 13:40, Juan Vuletich wrote:

That's intrigueing but I can't reproduce it. Maybe the .bmp but where did you get the .txt?

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On 11 Jul 2015 at 13:46, Juan Vuletich wrote:

Currently I am porting TrueType. By way of a progress report, drag has been reduced and by
installing

https://github.com/dhnorton/Cuis-Smalltalk-fonts

and cmd-d "tt := TTFontReader parseFileNamed:'c:\windows\fonts\cour.ttf'" you have a true
type instance "tt" which, when explored, bears a strong resemblance to the same thing if
done on Squeak, according to my eyeballs.

Now to transform(?) convert(?) this font to something which can be added to AvailableFonts
and used. WIBGI it could be used as is? There are several fixed-width fonts in the .ttf set.

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