Hello, etoys list and squeak-dev list,
This came up on the [hidden email] mailing list. Does anybody on this list want to show off what is hidden behind? Another idea we would like to try is to make a .xo file (an executable file for the XO machine) with an image configured for full development in Squeak. (And also another one with DrGeo II and BotsInc, etc. that could fill the gap between Etoys and Smalltalk.) -- Yoshiki --------- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:45:39 -0400 From: "C. Scott Ananian" <[hidden email]> To: "Yoshiki Ohshima" <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: Pippy and Calculate - Evolution Solution Cc: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Krsti=E6?=" <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] On 9/9/07, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote: > To reiterate my point, I think "the code behind" should be *ideally* > presented in different ways that different learners can understand. > In Etoys, you can go from visual tile scripting to (say) textual > Smalltalk to the Smalltalk parse tree to the stream of virtual > instructions (these are all accessible to the user on XO, BTW). I'd love to see demo instructions for this on the wiki somewhere. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) |
Indeed, if someone could add instructions how to peek behind the scenes that would be awesome. Currently the trick involves Alt-Shift- W to bring up the world menu, we should make that easier accessible. Also (and I asked this before), we're looking for ideas and volunteers who make Smalltalk programming accessible on the OLPC environment. This involves a strategy to store your own code in an etoys project (which works but is not really well-supported right now). However, instead of packing another image+sources+changes, I'd rather like to add sources to the regular etoys image. Preferably by utilizing the Decompiler, with temp names stored in the compiled methods, and possibly comments taken from an external file or included in the method, too. Help with that is appreciated, too - the Etoys team still has its hands full with the "kids stuff". - Bert - On Sep 10, 2007, at 20:41 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > Hello, etoys list and squeak-dev list, > > This came up on the [hidden email] mailing list. Does anybody on > this list want to show off what is hidden behind? > > Another idea we would like to try is to make a .xo file (an > executable file for the XO machine) with an image configured for full > development in Squeak. (And also another one with DrGeo II and > BotsInc, etc. that could fill the gap between Etoys and Smalltalk.) > > -- Yoshiki > > --------- > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:45:39 -0400 > From: "C. Scott Ananian" <[hidden email]> > To: "Yoshiki Ohshima" <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: Pippy and Calculate - Evolution Solution > Cc: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Krsti=E6?=" > <[hidden email]>, > [hidden email] > > On 9/9/07, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote: >> To reiterate my point, I think "the code behind" should be >> *ideally* >> presented in different ways that different learners can understand. >> In Etoys, you can go from visual tile scripting to (say) textual >> Smalltalk to the Smalltalk parse tree to the stream of virtual >> instructions (these are all accessible to the user on XO, BTW). > > I'd love to see demo instructions for this on the wiki somewhere. > --scott > |
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