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Friends of Morphic

Jerome Peace
Hi Edgar, Hi all,

This is a reply to correspondence I have be having
with Edgar about morphic. I've copied it to the
morphic list and to squeakdev. If any out there have
an interest in becoming friends of morphic, I invite
discussion and responses. I am hoping the morphic list
might revive thru the help and interest of friends.

Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace



I wrote:
> > I would like to see a Friends-of-Morphic group.
> > A Team implies some responsibilities and
> authority. I
> > have not gotten that far in my thinking yet.
> >
> > The question I want to answer is what would be
> > worthwhile? In both the short and long term.
> >
You replied:
> I don't have ideas now.
> I like Morphic, wish could improve and have a long
> life in Squeak.
> To me and you sure a Friends-of-Morphic group works
> better.
> But if we wish impact, a team is the answer.

Yes, at some point a team will be the answer.  Right
now I am interested in questions.

My idea of a friends group is to generate ideas in a
more casual atmosphere. To attract interested parties.
Identify strengths and weaknesses of those. Identify
resources (I.e. who has experience and time (or
students!) to be part of a team.)
To identify interesting projects and maybe discuss
which are worth allocating resources to.

Cheers Jer





       
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Re: Friends of Morphic

Blake-5
FWIW (and WIW may be VDL given my current pace) I'm working on tutorials  
using Morphic.

        ===Blake===

On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:32:51 -0700, Jerome Peace  
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Edgar, Hi all,
>
> This is a reply to correspondence I have be having
> with Edgar about morphic. I've copied it to the
> morphic list and to squeakdev. If any out there have
> an interest in becoming friends of morphic, I invite
> discussion and responses. I am hoping the morphic list
> might revive thru the help and interest of friends.
>
> Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace
>
>
>
> I wrote:
>> > I would like to see a Friends-of-Morphic group.
>> > A Team implies some responsibilities and
>> authority. I
>> > have not gotten that far in my thinking yet.
>> >
>> > The question I want to answer is what would be
>> > worthwhile? In both the short and long term.
>> >
> You replied:
>> I don't have ideas now.
>> I like Morphic, wish could improve and have a long
>> life in Squeak.
>> To me and you sure a Friends-of-Morphic group works
>> better.
>> But if we wish impact, a team is the answer.
>
> Yes, at some point a team will be the answer.  Right
> now I am interested in questions.
>
> My idea of a friends group is to generate ideas in a
> more casual atmosphere. To attract interested parties.
> Identify strengths and weaknesses of those. Identify
> resources (I.e. who has experience and time (or
> students!) to be part of a team.)
> To identify interesting projects and maybe discuss
> which are worth allocating resources to.
>
> Cheers Jer
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you  
> all the tools to get online.
> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
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Re: Friends of Morphic

Herbert König
Hello Blake,

B> FWIW (and WIW may be VDL given my current pace) I'm working on tutorials
B> using Morphic.

maybe this is of interest for your tutorials:

I'm definitely a friend of Morphic too. First it's great to build
'unusual' UI's with it.

I hat some hard time to build boring UI's. I come from dcl (Dialogue
Control Language) which I always thought superior to the VB/Delphi way
of plastering widgets onto panels.

Dcl just is a nested tree of rows and columns into which you stick
your widgets. The key was to notice that TableLayout is no table
layout but either a horizontal or a vertical layout.

Since then I happily paster RowMorphs and ColumnMorphs onto my UI into
these I stick the widgets, including spacers.

The other part of dcl which is about how to combine the behaviour and
the widgets easily maps to the Pluggable...Morphs if you separate
creating the morphs from setting their actions and targets. This
allows to create UI's before creating the models and for some groups
of problems (mainly when doing something new) a UI helps me to find
the necessary properties of the model.

Though I think this would be superior I still do it the way I learned
it from the examples. Which is using the class methods which set the
behaviour of the widgets during creation.

I would be interested in discussing your UI concepts (here or by mail)
and your low pace ideally matches my time constraints :-)

If you are interested I'm willing to help reviewing and testing. I
have the opposite Midas touch which is good for testing.

Cheers,

Herbert                            mailto:[hidden email]


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Re: Friends of Morphic

Blake-5
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:38:49 -0700, Herbert König <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

> I hat some hard time to build boring UI's. I come from dcl (Dialogue
> Control Language) which I always thought superior to the VB/Delphi way
> of plastering widgets onto panels.

There are some real advantages to coding a design versus painting it, but  
it's hard to sell that.

> I would be interested in discussing your UI concepts (here or by mail)
> and your low pace ideally matches my time constraints :-)
>
> If you are interested I'm willing to help reviewing and testing. I
> have the opposite Midas touch which is good for testing.

As I said, I'm moving slowly, but I will definitely announce here when I  
have something substantial to review.

Thanks, Herbert!

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Re: Friends of Morphic

Diman Todorov-3

On 11.06.2007, at 00:06, Blake wrote:

> As I said, I'm moving slowly, but I will definitely announce here  
> when I have something substantial to review.

I am also looking forward to reviewing Morphic tutorials :)

cheers,
Diman

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Re: Friends of Morphic

Juan Vuletich-4
In reply to this post by Jerome Peace
Hi Jerome,

I'm currently interested mostly on advancing my Morphic 3 project. You
can read about it at www.jvuletich.org . If Friends of Morphic agree,
I'd like to share opinions, etc. about M3 in the morphic list.

BTW, Jerome, I'd be very happy if you got involved in M3 somehow!

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

Jerome Peace escribió:

> Hi Edgar, Hi all,
>
> This is a reply to correspondence I have be having
> with Edgar about morphic. I've copied it to the
> morphic list and to squeakdev. If any out there have
> an interest in becoming friends of morphic, I invite
> discussion and responses. I am hoping the morphic list
> might revive thru the help and interest of friends.
>
> Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace
>
>
>
> I wrote:
>  
>>> I would like to see a Friends-of-Morphic group.
>>> A Team implies some responsibilities and
>>>      
>> authority. I
>>    
>>> have not gotten that far in my thinking yet.
>>>
>>> The question I want to answer is what would be
>>> worthwhile? In both the short and long term.
>>>
>>>      
> You replied:
>  
>> I don't have ideas now.
>> I like Morphic, wish could improve and have a long
>> life in Squeak.
>> To me and you sure a Friends-of-Morphic group works
>> better.
>> But if we wish impact, a team is the answer.
>>    
>
> Yes, at some point a team will be the answer.  Right
> now I am interested in questions.
>
> My idea of a friends group is to generate ideas in a
> more casual atmosphere. To attract interested parties.
> Identify strengths and weaknesses of those. Identify
> resources (I.e. who has experience and time (or
> students!) to be part of a team.)
> To identify interesting projects and maybe discuss
> which are worth allocating resources to.
>
> Cheers Jer
>
>
>
>
>
>        
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting 
>
>
>  


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Re: Friends of Morphic

stephane ducasse
>
> BTW, Jerome, I'd be very happy if you got involved in M3 somehow!
would be great!