Fwd: Building Unix Squeak VM On Intel Mac

> From: Todd Blanchard <[hidden email]>
> Date: March 31, 2006 11:33:22 PM PST
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Building Unix Squeak VM On Intel Mac
>
> Ok - if I do that:
>
> Squeak-3.8a1 Unix VM compiled using INTERP=interp (no gnuify):
>
> From Squeak3.8 of '5 May 2005' [latest update: #6665] on 31 March  
> 2006 at 11:04:41 pm
>
> Benchmark #1: 9713ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 9.7s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 1634 totalling 345ms (4.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 4 (avg 408 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #2: 55247ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 55.3s
> full 15 totalling 1,256ms (2.0% uptime), avg 84.0ms
> incr 29544 totalling 6,133ms (11.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 2,143 (avg 13 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #3: 19737ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 19.8s
> full 1 totalling 103ms (1.0% uptime), avg 103.0ms
> incr 1954 totalling 571ms (3.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 122 (avg 16 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #4: 0ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 0.0s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 1 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 0
>
> Benchmark #5: 0ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 0.0s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg
> tenures 0
>
> Benchmark #6: 8958ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 9.0s
> full 1 totalling 79ms (1.0% uptime), avg 79.0ms
> incr 2810 totalling 591ms (7.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 41 (avg 68 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #7: 10402ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 10.4s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 767 totalling 265ms (3.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 18 (avg 42 GCs/tenure)
>
> ---------------------
> Total time = 114459 milliseconds.
>

> Carbon VM 3.8.11beta5U
>
> From Squeak3.8 of '5 May 2005' [latest update: #6665] on 31 March  
> 2006 at 11:09:27 pm
>
> Benchmark #1: 7077ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 7.1s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 1636 totalling 380ms (5.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 3 (avg 545 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #2: 44388ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 44.4s
> full 15 totalling 1,336ms (3.0% uptime), avg 89.0ms
> incr 26721 totalling 6,170ms (14.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 2,156 (avg 12 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #3: 15368ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 15.4s
> full 1 totalling 112ms (1.0% uptime), avg 112.0ms
> incr 1830 totalling 549ms (4.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 123 (avg 14 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #4: 0ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 0.0s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 1 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 0
>
> Benchmark #5: 0ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 0.0s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg
> tenures 0
>
> Benchmark #6: 6947ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 7.0s
> full 1 totalling 86ms (1.0% uptime), avg 86.0ms
> incr 2785 totalling 683ms (10.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 42 (avg 66 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #7: 2872ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 2.9s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 701 totalling 220ms (8.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 16 (avg 43 GCs/tenure)
>
> ---------------------
> Total time = 79524 milliseconds.
>

> For fun, I made the changes in the register declarations you  
> mentioned in gnu-interp and built another copy of the Unix VM - it  
> gets
>
> From Squeak3.8 of '5 May 2005' [latest update: #6665] on 31 March  
> 2006 at 11:22:34 pm
>
> Benchmark #1: 8900ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 8.9s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 1635 totalling 371ms (4.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 3 (avg 545 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #2: 52675ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 52.7s
> full 15 totalling 1,264ms (2.0% uptime), avg 84.0ms
> incr 28943 totalling 6,033ms (11.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 2,148 (avg 13 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #3: 18877ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 18.9s
> full 1 totalling 96ms (1.0% uptime), avg 96.0ms
> incr 2008 totalling 544ms (3.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 123 (avg 16 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #4: 0ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 0.0s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 1 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 0
>
> Benchmark #5: 0ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 0.0s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime), avg
> tenures 0
>
> Benchmark #6: 8328ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 8.3s
> full 1 totalling 80ms (1.0% uptime), avg 80.0ms
> incr 2417 totalling 512ms (6.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 41 (avg 58 GCs/tenure)
>
> Benchmark #7: 10367ms
> ---------------------
> uptime 10.4s
> full 0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
> incr 760 totalling 261ms (3.0% uptime), avg 0.0ms
> tenures 18 (avg 42 GCs/tenure)
>
> ---------------------
> Total time = 109514 milliseconds.
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2006, at 10:33 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>
>> Well I take a Squeak3.8-6665.image from the squeak.org site,  load  
>> the benchmarks stuff from squeakMap and do
>> MacroBenchmarks run
>>
>> mmm ya error
>>
>> k, so alter things a bit to avoid the error in macroBenchmark3
>>
>> MacroBenchmarks>>macroBenchmark3
>> true ifTrue: [^self].
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31-Mar-06, at 10:02 PM, Todd Blanchard wrote:
>>
>>> If its the Benchmarks package on squeakmap you're talking about,  
>>> then I can't find a one that runs to completion in my 3.8 based  
>>> image.  Where would I find an image where the benchmarks work?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2006, at 10:41 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ah yes, well the unix maintainer can figure out why it crashes,  
>>>> it's a compiler bug exposed I think due to a choice he made. If  
>>>> someone is doing unix maintenance then we could undo that choice.
>>>>
>>>>  I'm curious what type of tinybenchmark and macrobenchmarks  
>>>> numbers you
>>>> get then as compared to the carbon mac vm universal.
>>>>
>>>> On 31-Mar-06, at 8:00 AM, Todd Blanchard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The VM crashes on launch in the big switch statement with a  
>>>>> memory access violation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, the Intel Macs are much faster than the PPC ones -  
>>>>> so even with this "handicap" it seems quite a bit faster than  
>>>>> the PPC one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2006, at 2:32 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 31.03.2006 um 09:29 schrieb Todd Blanchard:
>>>>>>> make INTERP=interp
>>>>>>> make INTERP=interp Squeak.app
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ugh, does the gnuify script not work? This will severely  
>>>>>> effect performance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Bert -
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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