Fwd: If python goes Etoys, let's go scripting then - with the best IDE for creating and a clean license for running(!) scripts

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Fwd: If python goes Etoys, let's go scripting then - with the best IDE for creating and a clean license for running(!) scripts

Markus Gälli-3
I take the liberty to forward to squeak-dev, as I moved the  
discussion there.

Sorry for the inconvenience...

Markus

>
> This is not sudden for me this is at least since 2000 that I want  
> that.
> I was waiting for S# and nothing came. Then we tried to do diamond  
> but we were too busy doing something else.
> Roel introduced primitives to VW to printout. But now this would be  
> cool that I can run the scripts
> I want to write and can debug them. I'm fed up about sh, bash, ruby  
> because they do not have a good debugger.
> Also at the end Ruby will have a cache and a debugger so in that  
> case why not waiting....
>
> PS: I liked the talk of dave thomas at esug in 2002 about sapphire:  
> it looks like pepsi.
>
> Stef
>
>>> Professor Nierstrasz (liking the IDE of Squeak and Smalltalk a  
>>> lot, but starting to build Ruby scripts for convenience (#!)  
>>> reasons) asked Marcus and me about the possibility of having  
>>> Squeak as a good script writing engine on the one hand and a  
>>> script executor on the other hand.
>>
>> My guess is that it's not worth the effort. Ruby makes a good  
>> language for command-line scripts - it's got a Smalltalk-like  
>> object model, blocks, decent libraries and good access to other  
>> command-line tools. Why not just use that?
>>
>> Why all the sudden interest in making a scripting language out of  
>> Squeak? As a community we need to get our own house in order and  
>> figure out how to manage the code we've got with the people we've  
>> got. Then we can think about reaching out to other communities, if  
>> that seems like a good idea.
>>
>> grumble, grumble.
>>
>> Colin
>