Fwd: If python goes Etoys, let's go scripting then - with the best IDE for creating and a clean license for running(!) scripts

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Fwd: If python goes Etoys, let's go scripting then - with the best IDE for creating and a clean license for running(!) scripts

Markus Gälli-3
I take the liberty to forward to squeak-dev, as I moved the  
discussion there.

Sorry for the inconvenience...

Markus

>
> Hi,
>
> Ruby is certainly very nice for scripting, but it falls flat on its  
> face exactly where all file-based languages have problems --  
> debugging is painful.  Let's face it, irb is simply not a  
> substitute for the Smalltalk environment.
>
> Rather than develop a complete environment for Ruby, it seems to me  
> far more interesting and simpler too to see what it would take to  
> make Smalltalk more suitable for scripting.
>
> I believe that activities like this are needed to help the Squeak  
> community move forward.
>
> Oscar
>
> On Aug 23, 2006, at 5:10, Colin Putney wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:52 AM, Markus Gaelli wrote:
>>
>>> Professor Nierstrasz (liking the IDE of Squeak and Smalltalk a  
>>> lot, but starting to build Ruby scripts for convenience (#!)  
>>> reasons) asked Marcus and me about the possibility of having  
>>> Squeak as a good script writing engine on the one hand and a  
>>> script executor on the other hand.
>>
>> My guess is that it's not worth the effort. Ruby makes a good  
>> language for command-line scripts - it's got a Smalltalk-like  
>> object model, blocks, decent libraries and good access to other  
>> command-line tools. Why not just use that?
>>
>> Why all the sudden interest in making a scripting language out of  
>> Squeak? As a community we need to get our own house in order and  
>> figure out how to manage the code we've got with the people we've  
>> got. Then we can think about reaching out to other communities, if  
>> that seems like a good idea.
>>
>> grumble, grumble.
>>
>> Colin
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