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Hello all!
I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I run code like: (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have this issue, but I sure miss them! - Brian _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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Brian,
There is clearly a dependence on #topWindow or whatever it is, and I have never quite had the time to figure out where it lives; it must be something that Gary installs as part of his base image. The pre-built dev image (Damian's work???) will probably treat you better. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: [hidden email] Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 11:17 AM >>> Hello all! I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I run code like: (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have this issue, but I sure miss them! - Brian _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Bill Schwab wrote: > Brian, > > There is clearly a dependence on #topWindow or whatever it is, and I > have never quite had the time to figure out where it lives; it must be > something that Gary installs as part of his base image. The pre-built > dev image (Damian's work???) will probably treat you better. I was using Damien's image, but before this last release when the UI enhancements are default - I installed it using the Package Universe browser in the Dev image. - Brian > > Bill > > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: [hidden email] > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > >>>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 11:17 AM >>> > Hello all! > > I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't > actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I > run code like: > > (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i > isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] > > I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they > just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load > my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have > this issue, but I sure miss them! > > - Brian > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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Brian,
Did you use the beta image? The older images might have the same problem I have had. Great news that it is now the default! Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: [hidden email] Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 12:15 PM >>> On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Bill Schwab wrote: > Brian, > > There is clearly a dependence on #topWindow or whatever it is, and I > have never quite had the time to figure out where it lives; it must be > something that Gary installs as part of his base image. The pre-built > dev image (Damian's work???) will probably treat you better. I was using Damien's image, but before this last release when the UI enhancements are default - I installed it using the Package Universe browser in the Dev image. - Brian > > Bill > > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: [hidden email] > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > >>>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 11:17 AM >>> > Hello all! > > I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't > actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I > run code like: > > (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i > isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] > > I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they > just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load > my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have > this issue, but I sure miss them! > > - Brian > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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Yes, I've been using the beta images for a while :)
- Brian On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Bill Schwab wrote: > Brian, > > Did you use the beta image? The older images might have the same > problem I have had. Great news that it is now the default! > > Bill > > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: [hidden email] > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > >>>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 12:15 PM >>> > > On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Bill Schwab wrote: > >> Brian, >> >> There is clearly a dependence on #topWindow or whatever it is, and I >> have never quite had the time to figure out where it lives; it >> must be >> something that Gary installs as part of his base image. The pre- >> built >> dev image (Damian's work???) will probably treat you better. > > I was using Damien's image, but before this last release when the UI > enhancements are default - I installed it using the Package Universe > browser in the Dev image. > > - Brian > > > >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. >> University of Florida >> Department of Anesthesiology >> PO Box 100254 >> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 >> >> Email: [hidden email] >> Tel: (352) 846-1285 >> FAX: (352) 392-7029 >> >>>>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 11:17 AM >>> >> Hello all! >> >> I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't >> actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I >> run code like: >> >> (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i >> isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] >> >> I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they >> just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load >> my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have >> this issue, but I sure miss them! >> >> - Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UI mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UI mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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In reply to this post by Brian Brown-2
Brian,
Then I am officially stumped, and will let those with some idea of what might be happening take over :) Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: [hidden email] Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 1:00 PM >>> Yes, I've been using the beta images for a while :) - Brian On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Bill Schwab wrote: > Brian, > > Did you use the beta image? The older images might have the same > problem I have had. Great news that it is now the default! > > Bill > > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: [hidden email] > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > >>>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 12:15 PM >>> > > On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Bill Schwab wrote: > >> Brian, >> >> There is clearly a dependence on #topWindow or whatever it is, and I >> have never quite had the time to figure out where it lives; it >> must be >> something that Gary installs as part of his base image. The pre- >> built >> dev image (Damian's work???) will probably treat you better. > > I was using Damien's image, but before this last release when the UI > enhancements are default - I installed it using the Package Universe > browser in the Dev image. > > - Brian > > > >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. >> University of Florida >> Department of Anesthesiology >> PO Box 100254 >> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 >> >> Email: [hidden email] >> Tel: (352) 846-1285 >> FAX: (352) 392-7029 >> >>>>> [hidden email] 10/03/07 11:17 AM >>> >> Hello all! >> >> I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't >> actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I >> run code like: >> >> (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i >> isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] >> >> I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they >> just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load >> my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have >> this issue, but I sure miss them! >> >> - Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UI mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UI mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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In reply to this post by Brian Brown-2
Could you explain more explicitly what the problem is and under which
circumstances it occurs? Given that in normal circumstances Debugger allInstances == #() If your debugger instances dissapear after doing Smalltalk garbageCollect a few times then there is no real problem, I think, otherwise it is possibly something to do with the taskbar. On Wednesday 03 October 2007 4:17 pm, Brian Brown wrote: > Hello all! > > I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't > actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I > run code like: > > (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i > isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] > > I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they > just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load > my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have > this issue, but I sure miss them! > > - Brian > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui Pinesoft Computers are registered in England, Registered number: 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, Herts, EN8 7EA This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl - www.blackspider.com _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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On Oct 4, 2007, at 3:53 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Could you explain more explicitly what the problem is and under which > circumstances it occurs? > > Given that in normal circumstances > Debugger allInstances == #() > > If your debugger instances dissapear after doing Smalltalk > garbageCollect a > few times then there is no real problem, I think, otherwise it is > possibly > something to do with the taskbar. > No amount of garbage collecting has any affect on it, I just noticed that my image was 40 mb bigger than it should have been and so was doing some investigation and asked Pavel Krivanek to help me and he found that System Windows were not actually going away when closed, they just stay around. It could have been taskbar, but turning it off has no effect on the situation... I'll get with Pavel and we give you details of what was found, I don't have the image laying around right now, so I'll dig it up. Thanks, Brian > > On Wednesday 03 October 2007 4:17 pm, Brian Brown wrote: >> Hello all! >> >> I have been using the UI enhancements, and found that it isn't >> actually closing system windows - especially debugger windows. If I >> run code like: >> >> (Debugger allInstances collect: [:d | d dependents detect: [:i | i >> isKindOf: SystemWindow]]) do: [:w | w openInWorld] >> >> I was getting 7 or 8 debugger windows popping up on the screen, they >> just wouldn't close. I had to start over with a fresh image and load >> my code. Now that I'm not using the UI enhancements, I don't have >> this issue, but I sure miss them! >> >> - Brian >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UI mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui > > > Pinesoft Computers are registered in England, Registered number: > 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, > Herts, EN8 7EA > > > > This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider > MailControl - www.blackspider.com > > _______________________________________________ > UI mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui _______________________________________________ UI mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui |
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