[Glass] GLASS appliance (VMWare virtual machine) still available?

Am 09.02.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Dale Henrichs via Glass <[hidden email]>:

The appliance is no longer available so building your own vm is the best bet, as Bruno suggests.

I am in the process of putting together pretty comprehensive instructions for installing GemStone [1], but I haven't quite automated the os update process, but I do have manual instructions for preparing Ubuntu 12.04 and Ubunut14.04[2]. And eventually I will supply information about installing and configuration nginx and/or lighttpd .. there are folks on this list who use one or the other and I'm sure they can help with the configuration details.

I know nobody is interested. But I don't understand why taking an approach like I did with virtual-gemstone [1] is not a good fit to produce applicances and make it possible for people to adjust their own. The stuff in the repository is quite old so I don't think it will run out of the box.

A short summary:

- you provide an iso image of your preferred linux distro

- veewee installs a basic linux

- it hands control over to vagrant 

- vagrant configures the system

- vagrant installs chef 

- chef uses the available recipes to install all the software you need

I made this up to installing nginx, gemstone, install seaside in gemstone, etc. If everything it is one command to invoke that spits out a read made virtual appliance that runs gemstone. I never did it but it is prepared so that you could generate the appliances from a jenkins server.

just saying,

Norbert

[1] https://github.com/noha/virtual-gemstone

Dale

[1] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome#open-source-development-kit-for-gemstones-64-bit-
[2] https://github.com/GsDevKit/gsDevKitHome/issues/22
On 2/8/15 11:21 PM, FrankB via Glass wrote:

Hello,

I am looking for a working VMWare or VirtualBox appliance with GemStone
GLASS and Pharo installed, not necessarily the latest version, that I can
use to make some first acquaintance with GemStone.

Experience shows that it's not only an extreme waste of time and a highly
frustrating task having to go through the typically quite complex
installation hassle of a new development environment just because one would
like to have a closer look at it. In many cases, installation simply fails.

Therefore, I would really prefer to download some well prepared demo / test
/ play virtual version.

Any link available?

Greetings
Frank



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I know nobody is interested. But ...

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Richard Sargent via Glass <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I know nobody is interested. But ...

Au contraire. We are definitely interested. What we lack is either time or
expertise, depending on who you look at.

If there is anyone out there with the experience to automate building an
appliance from the latest releases, it would be wonderful if you could start
on it. (But it might be best to wait for Dales latest GsDevKit work, first.)

What sort of automation are you looking for here?

After several back and forth emails from Dale, I was able to follow a seemingly simple set of instructions to get a brand new copy of glass up and running on ubuntu 12.x

It was mainly downloading files and copy+paste from webpages.  The thread history should be available in the archives if you want to search.   Or I can attempt to dig it out and add to this thread.

 

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Hi all,

We are about to go through exactly this process using either cfEngine or Puppet. If there’s a project underway to do this let me know, otherwise I’ll post here once we get started next week and it’s up on github. Our initial targets will be OS X and ubuntu (our dev and deploy platforms) but we’ll make sure it’s extendible to other platforms.

The goal is a hardened GsDevKit server or group of servers that each play a role in a GS deployment. roles for stone, web server, gem servers, etc. to help with scaling to more machines. Any other suggestions and comments are more than welcome. 

Cheers,

Jupiter

Hi Frank,

My suggestions:

1) GemStone: 

Download the virtual appliance at http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/jade/glass.zip, unzip, and start it up. 

Log in using ‘glass’ as the user and password.

From the command line enter 'ifconfig | grep inet’ (without the quotes) to find out your virtual host’s IP address.

From the command line enter ‘gslist -cvl’ (without the quotes) to confirm that you have a Stone, Cache, and NetLDI running on the virtual server. 

2) Jade:

Download Jade from https://github.com/jgfoster/Jade/raw/master/runtime/Jade.zip, unzip it on your Windows 7 machine, and launch Jade.exe.

Select the GemStone/Smalltalk version to match that listed in the gslist command above (I believe it will be 3.1.0.x). 

Enter the Host Name or IP address for the virtual server. 

Enter the NetLDI service port number (it should be 50377).

Enter the Stone Name from the gslist command above.

Use ‘DataCurator’ and ‘swordfish’ as the user ID and password.

Enter your name (without spaces) as the Monticello User Name.

Click Login.

At this point you can explore the system from Windows.

I don’t expect everything to go perfectly, but I’ll be interested in finding out what problems you encounter so that we can improve the process.

Note that this is only one approach to getting started with GemStone. The more “official” process is the Open Source Development Kit (http://gemtalksystems.com/techsupport/community-and-mailing-lists/) and Dale might provide some references and guidance in that direction.

James

On May 19, 2015, at 9:00 PM, FrankB via Glass <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello 

and thank you very much for this super quick reply.

I am currently (still) using Win7 for development but I also have a Linux
(SuSe) machine next to me as my "application testing lab". There are VMware
and VirtualBox installed on both (I am moving all from VM [due to several
security problems] to VirtualBox, which is also much simpler to handle). I
shall never ever use any Mac!

. What things would you like to learn?

Well, seeing is believing! Many things get much clearer if one has DONE
them.

Additionally, I would like to get a - even if subjective - feeling for
performance. My projects have quite complex objects (database publishing
amongst other use cases) and I would probably try to create a couple of test
objects to play with - rather more read-write than select.

Also, I want to get to know better the selecting capabilities and compare
them to my alternative (and currently in theory preferred) indexing through
Sphinx. I must be prepared to support a couple of 10.000 simultaneous users
as another of my projects (huge  market niche) has this potential.

Do you want a traditional GUI IDE or would you be willing to learn the

built-in command-line interface? 

Well, a question that I cannot fully answer due to my lack of knowledge. I
though that this was handled primarily through Pharo. I am NOT positive
about command line interfaces but, of course, I use them when required but
being an application focused developer I regard hardware and OS as
unfortunately indispensable tools (it's even more stupid than sad that the
Unix world has not learned anything in the last 30 years in this respect;
SuSe's GUI tools are a tiny first step).

Therefore, if you have anything better than command line it will be highly
welcome.

BTW: I was NOT expecting that you make one for me specifically but I rather
thought that this was a "normal" subject for such a high-end tool.

But in any case thank you in advance.

FrankB






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