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Randal L. Schwartz

Gofer in Squeak trunk?

Any objection to including Gofer in a near-future Squeak?

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Miguel Cobá

Re: [squeak-dev] Gofer in Squeak trunk?

El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 14:48 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz escribió:
> Any objection to including Gofer in a near-future Squeak?

It is MIT, you can do what you want with it :)

Of course is the point of the squeak vs. pharo... but technically and
legally, you can, it is your (the people/the board/the community/not
randal's) Squeak. :)

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Levente Uzonyi-2

Re: [squeak-dev] Gofer in Squeak trunk?

In reply to this post by Randal L. Schwartz

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

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> Any objection to including Gofer in a near-future Squeak?

1. It relies on Monticello which is different in Squeak and Pharo (and the
difference will probably grow, since Pharo may drop mcd support in the
future (http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-January/021074.html ))
2. Do we really need it in Squeak, can't it just be a loadable package?

Levente

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Ken G. Brown

Re: [squeak-dev] Gofer in Squeak trunk?

In reply to this post by Randal L. Schwartz

Sounds to me like it would be better to make MC1.6 loadable in trunk from squeaksource/mc, then add the necessary gofer functionality to MC (if even needed).

Ken G. Brown

Jeroen van Hilst

Re: Gofer in Squeak trunk?

In reply to this post by Randal L. Schwartz

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> Any objection to including Gofer in a near-future Squeak?
>

I noticed yr question about MetaCello and Gofer (in SmallWiki):

Randal said:
"
So this is my first time using MetaCello, and it looks like to
bootstrap it from Squeak Trunk, I have to go into the Monticello
Browser GUI, and pick the latest package of ConfigurationOfMetacello
manually.
Is there any way to automate all of this in some sort of "doit"?
"

I just wanted to say that you could do from trunk now:

squeaksource := Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com'.
mcrp := squeaksource project: 'MetacelloRepository'.
mcrp install: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #loadLatestVersion

- Jeroen

Levente Uzonyi-2

Re: Gofer in Squeak trunk?

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Jeroen van Hilst wrote:

> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> Any objection to including Gofer in a near-future Squeak?
>>
>
> I noticed yr question about MetaCello and Gofer (in SmallWiki):
>
>
> Randal said:
> "
> So this is my first time using MetaCello, and it looks like to
> bootstrap it from Squeak Trunk, I have to go into the Monticello
> Browser GUI, and pick the latest package of ConfigurationOfMetacello
> manually.
> Is there any way to automate all of this in some sort of "doit"?
> "
>
> I just wanted to say that you could do from trunk now:
>
> squeaksource := Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com'.
> mcrp := squeaksource project: 'MetacelloRepository'.
> mcrp install: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #loadLatestVersion

Or just
(Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository') install: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) perform: #loadLatestVersion.

Levente

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> - Jeroen
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Andreas.Raab

Re: Gofer in Squeak trunk?

In reply to this post by Randal L. Schwartz

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> Any objection to including Gofer in a near-future Squeak?

Do you mean including Gofer or Metacello? (I.e., is the question really
just about Gofer or is it in the context of supporting Metacello?)

Cheers,
- Andreas

keith1y

Re: Gofer in Squeak trunk?

On 27 Jan 2010, at 02:31, Andreas Raab wrote:

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Any objection to including Gofer in a near-future Squeak?

Do you mean including Gofer or Metacello? (I.e., is the question really just about Gofer or is it in the context of supporting Metacello?)

When you have a tool for bootstrapping things easily into a basic image, you don't need to have them loaded.

Metacello and Gofer can have bootstrapping scripts added to InstallerScripts, so that

Installer install: 'Gofer'.

Installer install: 'Metacello'.

Works in Squeak and Pharo etc.

Installer is designed so that it can be your only dependency so you don't need to have everything and the kitchen sink loaded. It doesn't even need Monticello, since it knows how to install source from inside a mcz.

regards

Keith