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Have a look at
- http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation and enjoy Open Source! /Klaus |
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You don't have to kill, there's nothing recorded with your (SqP) author
initials ;-) - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+Craig /Klaus On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:14:22 +0200, Craig Latta wrote: > > Ah, source code in files... > > (Kill! Kill! Kill! :) > > > -C > |
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> You don't have to kill, there's nothing recorded with your (SqP) > author initials ;-) Phew; so at least I'm not making the problem worse, but that still leaves all those files that everyone else wrote, in all the other languages. :) -C -- Craig Latta http://netjam.org/resume |
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In reply to this post by Klaus D. Witzel
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>:
> Have a look at > > - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation > > and enjoy Open Source! No mcz :( Philippe |
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Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ...
/Klaus On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> Have a look at >> >> - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation >> >> and enjoy Open Source! > > No mcz :( > > Philippe > > |
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It's just zip, like jar.
And google does index SqueakSource quite well. Philippe 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ... > > /Klaus > > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >> Have a look at > >> > >> - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation > >> > >> and enjoy Open Source! > > > > No mcz :( > > > > Philippe > > > > > > > > |
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> It's just zip, like jar. Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement. > And google does index SqueakSource quite well. Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe. /Klaus > Philippe > > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ... >> >> /Klaus >> >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> >> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> >> Have a look at >> >> >> >> - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation >> >> >> >> and enjoy Open Source! >> > >> > No mcz :( >> > >> > Philippe >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > |
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Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at hand
which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource? /Klaus On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote: > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> It's just zip, like jar. > > Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement. > >> And google does index SqueakSource quite well. > > Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe. > > /Klaus > >> Philippe >> >> 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >>> Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions >>> ... >>> >>> /Klaus >>> >>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >>> >>> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >>> >> Have a look at >>> >> >>> >> - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation >>> >> >>> >> and enjoy Open Source! >>> > >>> > No mcz :( >>> > >>> > Philippe >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > |
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continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com
but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work. But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;) Philippe 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at hand > which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource? > > /Klaus > > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote: > > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > > >> It's just zip, like jar. > > > > Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement. > > > >> And google does index SqueakSource quite well. > > > > Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe. > > > > /Klaus > > > >> Philippe > >> > >> 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >>> Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions > >>> ... > >>> > >>> /Klaus > >>> > >>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >>> > >>> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >>> >> Have a look at > >>> >> > >>> >> - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation > >>> >> > >>> >> and enjoy Open Source! > >>> > > >>> > No mcz :( > >>> > > >>> > Philippe > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > |
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:17:18 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so > it doesn't work. Sure (it doesn't), therefore I asked. Seems that google hired too many 8.3 minded (versus: content-type-guessing minded) people recently ;-) > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most > matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). > > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as > zip too in the listing.... Precisely. Thereafter I can forget about my idea on listing SqMap contents in a google-compliant fashion (which, how come no surprise, didn't generate much enthusiasm when I sent that email a year ago or so). > .... now that I think about it .... ;) You have write access on SqueakSource? ;) /Klaus > Philippe > > > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at hand >> which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource? >> >> /Klaus >> >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote: >> > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> > >> >> It's just zip, like jar. >> > >> > Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement. >> > >> >> And google does index SqueakSource quite well. >> > >> > Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe. >> > >> > /Klaus >> > >> >> Philippe >> >> >> >> 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> >>> Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions >> >>> ... >> >>> >> >>> /Klaus >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> >>> >> Have a look at >> >>> >> >> >>> >> - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation >> >>> >> >> >>> >> and enjoy Open Source! >> >>> > >> >>> > No mcz :( >> >>> > >> >>> > Philippe >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > |
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2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>:
> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:17:18 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > > continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com > > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so > > it doesn't work. > > Sure (it doesn't), therefore I asked. Seems that google hired too many 8.3 > minded (versus: content-type-guessing minded) people recently ;-) > > > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most > > matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). > > > > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as > > zip too in the listing.... > > Precisely. Thereafter I can forget about my idea on listing SqMap contents > in a google-compliant fashion (which, how come no surprise, didn't > generate much enthusiasm when I sent that email a year ago or so). > > > .... now that I think about it .... ;) > > You have write access on SqueakSource? ;) Everybody has, the repository has public write access: http://www.squeaksource.com/ss.html Adrian does the deployment. Philippe > /Klaus > > > Philippe > > > > > > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >> Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at hand > >> which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource? > >> > >> /Klaus > >> > >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote: > >> > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> > > >> >> It's just zip, like jar. > >> > > >> > Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement. > >> > > >> >> And google does index SqueakSource quite well. > >> > > >> > Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe. > >> > > >> > /Klaus > >> > > >> >> Philippe > >> >> > >> >> 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >> >>> Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions > >> >>> ... > >> >>> > >> >>> /Klaus > >> >>> > >> >>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >> >>> >> Have a look at > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> and enjoy Open Source! > >> >>> > > >> >>> > No mcz :( > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Philippe > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > |
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:56:44 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel wrote: >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:17:18 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> >> > .... now that I think about it .... ;) >> >> You have write access on SqueakSource? ;) > > Everybody has, the repository has public write access: > http://www.squeaksource.com/ss.html Sure, but I didn't mean the repository. I was thinking (and not writing) about the access rights of the server (and its http server config). How about this: if any/google crawler comes along, present all the .mcz files as .zip files (and don't forget the camouflage content-type: application/zip). Is this possible on Comanche/6.2 (Mac OS), dunno. I know that this works with (a little config in) my browser, it opens .mcz files as .zip files here. /Klaus > Adrian does the deployment. > > Philippe > >> /Klaus >> >> > Philippe >> > >> > >> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> >> Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at >> hand >> >> which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource? >> >> >> >> /Klaus >> >> >> >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> It's just zip, like jar. >> >> > >> >> > Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement. >> >> > >> >> >> And google does index SqueakSource quite well. >> >> > >> >> > Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe. >> >> > >> >> > /Klaus >> >> > >> >> >> Philippe >> >> >> >> >> >> 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> >> >>> Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file >> extensions >> >> >>> ... >> >> >>> >> >> >>> /Klaus >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: >> >> >>> >> Have a look at >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> - >> http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> and enjoy Open Source! >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > No mcz :( >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Philippe >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > |
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2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>:
> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:56:44 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel wrote: > >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:17:18 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> > >> > .... now that I think about it .... ;) > >> > >> You have write access on SqueakSource? ;) > > > > Everybody has, the repository has public write access: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/ss.html > > Sure, but I didn't mean the repository. I was thinking (and not writing) > about the access rights of the server (and its http server config). I have access to Adrian who does the deployments ;) In the past I never had problems to get changes accepted and deployed. > How about this: > > if any/google crawler comes along, present all the .mcz files as .zip > files (and don't forget the camouflage content-type: application/zip). > > Is this possible on Comanche/6.2 (Mac OS), dunno. > > I know that this works with (a little config in) my browser, it opens .mcz > files as .zip files here. As far as I can remember the files are directly served from within Seaside. The url handling code is a bit messy because there are all kind of things like static urls for directory listings, project pages, rss feeds. Some of these urls need sessions, others don't. Philippe > /Klaus > > > Adrian does the deployment. > > > > Philippe > > > >> /Klaus > >> > >> > Philippe > >> > > >> > > >> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >> >> Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at > >> hand > >> >> which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource? > >> >> > >> >> /Klaus > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote: > >> >> > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> It's just zip, like jar. > >> >> > > >> >> > Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement. > >> >> > > >> >> >> And google does index SqueakSource quite well. > >> >> > > >> >> > Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe. > >> >> > > >> >> > /Klaus > >> >> > > >> >> >> Philippe > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >> >> >>> Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file > >> extensions > >> >> >>> ... > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> /Klaus > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>: > >> >> >>> >> Have a look at > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> - > >> http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> and enjoy Open Source! > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > No mcz :( > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > Philippe > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > |
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Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha
scritto: > continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so > it doesn't work. > > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most > matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). > > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as > zip too in the listing.... > .... now that I think about it .... ;) What about sending a mail to the Google Code team and working with them? Giovanni |
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2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]>:
> Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha > scritto: > > continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com > > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so > > it doesn't work. > > > > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most > > matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). > > > > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as > > zip too in the listing.... > > .... now that I think about it .... ;) > > What about sending a mail to the Google Code team Did that but you have to be realistic. > and working with them? How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google? Philippe |
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Il giorno dom, 08/10/2006 alle 13.45 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha
scritto: > 2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]>: > > Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha > > scritto: > > > continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com > > > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so > > > it doesn't work. > > > > > > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most > > > matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). > > > > > > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as > > > zip too in the listing.... > > > .... now that I think about it .... ;) > > > > What about sending a mail to the Google Code team > > Did that but you have to be realistic. > > > and working with them? > > How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google? While the last option is enticing (provided you don't end up working with Steve Yegge), just telling them that a .mcz is a zip under disguise could be enough. After all, they are the one interested in indexing as much code as they can. Giovanni |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:45:36 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> 2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga wrote: >> Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha >> scritto: >> > continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com >> > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so >> > it doesn't work. >> > >> > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most >> > matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). >> > >> > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as >> > zip too in the listing.... >> > .... now that I think about it .... ;) >> >> What about sending a mail to the Google Code team > > Did that but you have to be realistic. Why would the google crawler index http://www.squeaksource.com/<put id here>/ , are there hyperlinks pointing to SqueakSource projects and/or is there a (session-less) SqueakSource page which presents hyperlinks of all projects to the crawler? >> and working with them? > > How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google? Tell them (or blog it) that their competitor is doing it (krugle also don't know about .mcz, but: who knows, all squeak-dev members please send them email): - http://www.krugle.com/ /Klaus > Philippe > |
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2006/10/8, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]>:
> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:45:36 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > 2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga wrote: > >> Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha > >> scritto: > >> > continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com > >> > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so > >> > it doesn't work. > >> > > >> > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most > >> > matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). > >> > > >> > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as > >> > zip too in the listing.... > >> > .... now that I think about it .... ;) > >> > >> What about sending a mail to the Google Code team > > > > Did that but you have to be realistic. > > Why would the google crawler index http://www.squeaksource.com/<put id > here>/ , are there hyperlinks pointing to SqueakSource projects and/or is > there a (session-less) SqueakSource page which presents hyperlinks of all > projects to the crawler? Because google knows anything ;) http://www.google.ch/search?q=shorecomponents (2nd hit) > >> and working with them? > > > > How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google? > > Tell them (or blog it) that their competitor is doing it (krugle also > don't know about .mcz, but: who knows, all squeak-dev members please send > them email): > > - http://www.krugle.com/ Maybe we should start marketing SqueakSource as Web 2.0 of source code management. I mean we have: - wikis - rss feeds - tags - collaboration - user content - run on a Mac (a real one, not a soulless MacPC) ;) - dynamic languages - continuations/seaside - a vcs that beats the crap out of everything that is file based - ... A blog post from Avi could make a real impact. Philippe |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:37:29 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> 2006/10/8, Klaus D. Witzel wrote: >> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:45:36 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> > 2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga wrote: >> >> Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha >> >> scritto: >> >> > continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com >> >> > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not >> indexed) so >> >> > it doesn't work. >> >> > >> >> > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most >> >> > matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented). >> >> > >> >> > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files >> as >> >> > zip too in the listing.... >> >> > .... now that I think about it .... ;) >> >> >> >> What about sending a mail to the Google Code team >> > >> > Did that but you have to be realistic. >> >> Why would the google crawler index http://www.squeaksource.com/<put id >> here>/ , are there hyperlinks pointing to SqueakSource projects and/or >> is >> there a (session-less) SqueakSource page which presents hyperlinks of >> all >> projects to the crawler? > > Because google knows anything ;) > http://www.google.ch/search?q=shorecomponents > (2nd hit) Hhm, did the meaning of *all projects* change recently? - http://www.google.com/search?q=pier+seaside+squeak+site%3Awww.squeaksource.com >> >> and working with them? >> > >> > How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google? ... > Maybe we should start marketing SqueakSource as Web 2.0 of source code > management. :) why not, if it works. /Klaus > I mean we have: > - wikis > - rss feeds > - tags > - collaboration > - user content > - run on a Mac (a real one, not a soulless MacPC) ;) > - dynamic languages > - continuations/seaside > - a vcs that beats the crap out of everything that is file based > - ... > > A blog post from Avi could make a real impact. > > Philippe > > |
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