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On Feb 4, 2008 7:06 AM, cdrick < [hidden email]> wrote:
> But we don't have Jean Todt now.
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>I very happy if some Master take the lead.
I find the comparison quite pertinent actually... especially if you
remember the state of Ferrari F1 team before Jean Todt arrived.
Ferrari, was still the oldest and most succesful, but results were not
the best at all...
I think Todt brought a direction and some coherence in a team full of
talented and passionnated people... It's not a question of raw
competences but more of communication... Squeak need coherence,
organisation (to me)... Stephane tried but got burned, Ralph
dissapeared (hope nothing bad)...
Who's next ? I would suggest Andreas takes a role in the new team if
he'd like... not the main one maybe, but a role... especially I like
him to implement a simpler traits system. Traits was a first try
(personnaly, I don't use them for now but why removing them if they
are harmless). Stephane has always recognized the implementation
wasn't ideal (especially the metaclass stuff that I have no idea of).
Andreas suggested a simpler implementation (without the
meta-problems). I'd love he gives a try but please don't throw traits
immediatly...
my very 2 cents
Cédrick Thanks Edgar & Cédrick! This analogy is useful in many respects. There is without question a need for coherence - a Jean Todt. At the same time, one can zoom out slightly and see that the race team is a participant in an ecosystem where Ferrari competes in symbiosis with various sponsors( Shell has 5 people at each race for example). While there is at least some degree of inherent tension/conflict wrt motivations and goals, everyone in the Ferrari ecosystem is focused on having drivers/cars that win consistently. That's why Jean Todt was hired and why I keep mentioning the role of the visible projects. They can be either sponsors or winning cars/drivers but it's hard to see how the work being being released under the Squeak Foundation banner can succeed without the participation of mission-focused entities. Even if a large group of people take up some of the excellent ideas mentioned in Paul's recent JVM post, unless the goal is to maintain a small niche, there will still be a need for "anchor" entities. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with small niches, it's just that Smalltalk/Squeak has so much potential that people tend to want to share it broadly.
Cheers, Laurence
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