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Wolfgang Helbig-2

Hobbes Emulator licensed

List,

Vassily Bykov kindly put his Hobbes Emulator under this license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/

Thank you, Vassily!

This license does not cover the ST-80 V2 image, since Xerox holds the copyright
to the image.

As Vassily pointed out, the emulator also works with the "Apple Smalltalk
image", whatever and whereever this is.

Greetings,

Wolfgang
--
Weniger, aber besser.

stéphane ducasse-2

Re: Hobbes Emulator licensed

Cool. I really want to have a look (argh....time time time is going
to fast or I'm doing too much stuff)
Then where is hobbes :)

(besides the illegal version I have :)).

On 3 juin 06, at 09:33, Wolfgang Helbig wrote:

> List,
>
> Vassily Bykov kindly put his Hobbes Emulator under this license:
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/
>
> Thank you, Vassily!
>
> This license does not cover the ST-80 V2 image, since Xerox holds
> the copyright
> to the image.
>
> As Vassily pointed out, the emulator also works with the "Apple
> Smalltalk
> image", whatever and whereever this is.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Wolfgang
> --
> Weniger, aber besser.
>
>

Wolfgang Helbig-2

Re: Hobbes Emulator licensed

In reply to this post by Wolfgang Helbig-2

Stephane,

you want:
>Cool. I really want to have a look (argh....time time time is going
>to fast or I'm doing too much stuff)
>Then where is hobbes :)

Inside a Squeak 3.6 image I've got from Dan when I asked him for the fonts used
in Smalltalk-80. I do not have access to the original Hobbes Emulator as
programmed by Vassily for Visual Works.

If authorized by Dan, I'd put the sources of his port of Hobbes on my web site.
But I'd prefer Dan to put it on his site or better yet on some of Squeak's
repository.

Since the V2-image from Xerox PARC is not published, and probably never will,
Hobbes is of limited value only. At least to me.

Greetings
Wolfgang

--
Weniger, aber besser.

stéphane ducasse-2

Re: Hobbes Emulator licensed

On 3 juin 06, at 13:59, Wolfgang Helbig wrote:

> Stephane,
>
> you want:
>> Cool. I really want to have a look (argh....time time time is going
>> to fast or I'm doing too much stuff)
>> Then where is hobbes :)
>
> Inside a Squeak 3.6 image I've got from Dan when I asked him for
> the fonts used
> in Smalltalk-80. I do not have access to the original Hobbes
> Emulator as
> programmed by Vassily for Visual Works.

But if this is release under creative commons, then it should be made
available
else I do not see the point.
I have a version on my harddisc but if I want to use that for a
lecture, I would prefer
to have a public version.

> If authorized by Dan, I'd put the sources of his port of Hobbes on
> my web site.
> But I'd prefer Dan to put it on his site or better yet on some of
> Squeak's
> repository.

Dan :)

> Since the V2-image from Xerox PARC is not published, and probably
> never will,
> Hobbes is of limited value only. At least to me.

I really think that we should put one image freely available.
So that people can learn from it.
Dan don't you have an image that can be made public.

Stef

>
> Greetings
> Wolfgang
>
> --
> Weniger, aber besser.
>
>

Dan Ingalls

Re: Hobbes Emulator licensed

In reply to this post by Wolfgang Helbig-2

Wolfgang Helbig <[hidden email]> wrote...

>Inside a Squeak 3.6 image I've got from Dan when I asked him for the fonts used
>in Smalltalk-80. I do not have access to the original Hobbes Emulator as
>programmed by Vassily for Visual Works.
>
>If authorized by Dan, I'd put the sources of his port of Hobbes on my web site.
>But I'd prefer Dan to put it on his site or better yet on some of Squeak's
>repository.

I hereby authorize it. I don't have any time until after the weekend, so put it anywhere you want until then. Afterward I shall put it on my web site, along with the APDA image which is open, and in ways better anyway.

>Since the V2-image from Xerox PARC is not published, and probably never will,
>Hobbes is of limited value only. At least to me.

I have the files for the APDA release, but I can't get them out until after the weekend (unless there happens to be internet in the mountains where I'm going).

More later.

- Dan

stéphane ducasse-2

Re: Hobbes Emulator licensed

Thanks dan this is cool.
I will get some times during the holidays :)

On 3 juin 06, at 18:21, Dan Ingalls wrote:

> Wolfgang Helbig <[hidden email]> wrote...
>
>> Inside a Squeak 3.6 image I've got from Dan when I asked him for
>> the fonts used
>> in Smalltalk-80. I do not have access to the original Hobbes
>> Emulator as
>> programmed by Vassily for Visual Works.
>>
>> If authorized by Dan, I'd put the sources of his port of Hobbes on
>> my web site.
>> But I'd prefer Dan to put it on his site or better yet on some of
>> Squeak's
>> repository.
>
> I hereby authorize it. I don't have any time until after the
> weekend, so put it anywhere you want until then. Afterward I shall
> put it on my web site, along with the APDA image which is open, and
> in ways better anyway.
>
>> Since the V2-image from Xerox PARC is not published, and probably
>> never will,
>> Hobbes is of limited value only. At least to me.
>
> I have the files for the APDA release, but I can't get them out
> until after the weekend (unless there happens to be internet in the
> mountains where I'm going).
>
> More later.
>
> - Dan
>

timrowledge

Re: Hobbes Emulator licensed

In reply to this post by Dan Ingalls

On 3-Jun-06, at 9:21 AM, Dan Ingalls wrote:
>
> I have the files for the APDA release, but I can't get them out
> until after the weekend (unless there happens to be internet in the
> mountains where I'm going).
What? You mean there are place where there *isn't* net access? How
can this be - quickly, we must fix it! Think of the children!

tim
--
tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
A computer's attention span is only as long as its extension cord.

Wolfgang Helbig-2

Re: Hobbes Emulator licensed

In reply to this post by Wolfgang Helbig-2

Dan,

you wrote:

>I hereby authorize it. I don't have any time until after the weekend, so put
it anywhere you want until then. Afterward I shall put it on my web site, along
with the APDA image which is open, and in ways better anyway.

>I have the files for the APDA release, but I can't get them out until after the
weekend (unless there happens to be internet in the mountains where I'm going).

Please find the sources at
http://www.ba-stuttgart.de/~helbig/st80/hobbes

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Weniger, aber besser.

stéphane ducasse-2

Re: Hobbes Emulator licensed

Cool
Wolf what about publish a MC package on squeaksource?
and automagically producing a SqueakMap entry each time you will
produce a new version.
The technology is there and cool.

Stef

On 4 juin 06, at 07:02, Wolfgang Helbig wrote:

> Dan,
>
> you wrote:
>
>> I hereby authorize it. I don't have any time until after the
>> weekend, so put
> it anywhere you want until then. Afterward I shall put it on my
> web site, along
> with the APDA image which is open, and in ways better anyway.
>
>> I have the files for the APDA release, but I can't get them out
>> until after the
> weekend (unless there happens to be internet in the mountains where
> I'm going).
>
> Please find the sources at
> http://www.ba-stuttgart.de/~helbig/st80/hobbes
>
> --
> Weniger, aber besser.
>
>