How to Install the plugin

Have Squeak any deployment system similar to Java WebStart ?

 

On a 3ghz Xeon, Cool...

Java.. 12195121 bytecodes/sec; 765220 sends/sec.
C..  131822863 bytecodes/sec; 6299512 sends/sec.

Hi Dan,

Congratulations and apologies, Dan!

I got so wrapped up playing with that Sept. '98 version of Squeak that I
forgot to reply to your note.  "Back to the Future," as much fun as ever!

Gary


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From: "Dan Ingalls" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:41 AM
Subject: A Possibly Interesting Link


For a good time, try...

http://Weather-Dimensions.com/Dan/ForwardToThePast.jnlp

It may take a while.  Much remains to be done, but there's enough to
play with.  I get terrible screen updating, but I think it's a
peculiarity of Java AWT on my Mac.   Use quit with no save to exit.

I'd like to hear whether it works or doesn't for you (you'll know),
and what browser, platform, and OS you used.  Maybe take it offline
if it starts to be a lot of traffic on the list.

Thanks, and enjoy (I hope)

- D

PS:  Thanks to Helge Horch for much of the environmental framework,
and to Wolfgang Helbig for helping me through JWS.



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Michael Rueger a écrit :
> Damien Cassou wrote:
>> We are still working on ubuntu package and we want the package to
>> install and configure the browser plugin. What are the files that need
>> to be included ? Where should they be putted ?
>
> Did you take a look at the squeakland debian packages?
> Jens (the student that built the packages) confirmed, that those work at
> least on his ubuntu distribution.

In fact, when I type 'about:plugins' in firefox, I can see that squeak
is installed. But I never managed to see something in the browser. Here
is links I tried :

http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu:8888/csl/uploads/33/equationswikiplugin.html
http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/plugintest.html
http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/plugintest.sts
...

I always get a big white space instead of the application.

Damien Cassou wrote:

> In fact, when I type 'about:plugins' in firefox, I can see that squeak
> is installed. But I never managed to see something in the browser. Here
> is links I tried :
>
> http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu:8888/csl/uploads/33/equationswikiplugin.html
> http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/plugintest.html
> http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/plugintest.sts

Oh boy, this is ancient history ;-)

Did you try any of the squeakland projects e.g.
http://www.squeakland.org/project.jsp?http://www.squeakland.org/fun_projects/Sqfest_2004/Rachel-Jodi.001.pr


Michael

Michael Rueger wrote:
>> http://isgwww.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~bert/squeak/plugin/test/plugintest.html 

was to quick, this one actually works.

So it seems that the plugin might not find the squeak executable?

Michael

Dual 2.0 GHz G5, OS X 10.4.6, Java 1.4.2
0 tinyBenchmarks
Sq3.9a7021, 3.8.9beta11 '167648984 bytecodes/sec; 6019773 sends/sec'
SqueakOnJava                    11,594,202 bytecodes/sec;    726,311 sends/sec

   Ken

At 4:30 AM -0700 4/6/06, [hidden email] wrote:

Hi Dan,


> For a good time, try...

> http://Weather-Dimensions.com/Dan/ForwardToThePast.jnlp

        As most others, I had to steal the jar ;-)

> It may take a while.  Much remains to be done, but there's enough to
> play with.  I get terrible screen updating, but I think it's a
> peculiarity of Java AWT on my Mac.   Use quit with no save to exit.

> I'd like to hear whether it works or doesn't for you (you'll know),
> and what browser, platform, and OS you used.  Maybe take it offline
> if it starts to be a lot of traffic on the list.

        On my Windows 2003 Server and latest Java (J2SE 5.0 Update 6)
        the ENTER key does not work.

        I found your work on ForwardToThePast admirable in many
        different ways. It is very interesting to see a Smalltalk VM
        running on top of another (one or two ;-) VM.

        Congratulations and please keep up with the good work.

        Cheers,

        PhiHo

        P.S: I think you are right, Java is a bit of the past now
        (clja is quite boring these days while the Guy's at Sun are busy
        building their Fortress ;-)

2GHz Intel MacBook Pro

Java:                   8903728 bytecodes/sec; 515517 sends/sec
Carbon VM:   265560165 bytecodes/sec; 8271046 sends/sec

I had trouble running these because:

Despite same image - meta key mapping was different.  Java VM often  
would hang with print it menu open.  Hilite followed the mouse, but  
mouseup was never registered and couldn't click.  Unable to copy text  
using the Java VM.  Arrow keys didn't work.  Needed ctrl click to  
bring up print it menu.  Meta key mapping conventions has long been a  
problem across JVM's.

Carbon VM - mouse location was off by about an inch - pointer  
appeared about 1 inch up and right of where actual click would  
occur.  However, arrow keys worked great - used alt click to bring up  
print it menu.

Unix VM - I got a blank white screen - cursor shapes changed as I  
moused over things, but was unable to select text or see anything.

BTW, I also tried launching JWS directly - it brings up a dialog  
where you enter the URL and then it is supposed to load the app.  It  
failed to load too.  I find that par for the course for the Java  
experience. :-/

I was blown away by how tiny it all is.

-Todd Blanchard

On Apr 6, 2006, at 12:41 AM, Dan Ingalls wrote:

and it works fine.  Cool!
>
>I don't know what the problem is.  On my Mac, in Safari it downloads the jnlp
file, then launches, and in Firefox, it launches straight off.
>
>Sounds like I haven't done an adequate job of setting mime types on the server
(not my expertise), and somehow my Mac is helping out with its own beliefs about
.jnlp.

Seems to be fixed! At least here with firefox on solaris8/x86 JWS is started,
which then downloads the jar file and starts it. After you persuaded JWS that
you trust Dan. :-)

First results, (JDK 1.5.0_06, solaris8/x86):
        left and middle mouse button are swapped.
        reverseDisplay does not reverse the display, but only parts of it.
        you have to restore the display to get it reverted.
        copy to the clipboard does not work (primitive: 141 failed)
        tinyBenchmark:  6441223 bytcodes/sec,   388243 sends/sec
Squeak 3.8/Unix-VM:  '112874779 bytecodes/sec; 4383802 sends/sec'

No I need to port tinyBenchmark to ST-80, to see how Hobbes performs in Squeak.
Stay tuned,

Greetings
Wolfgang
--
Weniger, aber besser.

Hi!

Pentium 4, 3GHz, 512MB RAM:

SqueakOnJava: 7,414,272 bytecodes/sec; 403,791 sends/sec
Squeak 3.8: 115,837,104 bytecodes/sec; 4,250,358 sends/sec

Cheers,

Elod

Hi,
Here are my results, including this nice (but slow) Hobbes running on Squeak.

tinyBenchmarks for Hobbes on Squeak, Squeak on Java, Squeak on Unix-VM:

Hobbes:      124719 bytecodes/sec,      9210 sends/sec
Java:        6441223  (hobbes * 51),   388243 ( hobbes * 42)
Unix-VM:   112874779  (java * 17),    4383802 (java * 11)

Enjoy Easter,
Wolfgang
--
Weniger, aber besser.

I thought that Hobbes was running on VW. At least the one that I have  
on my machine.
Where can I find the Squeak one?

Stef

On 13 avr. 06, at 22:06, Wolfgang Helbig wrote:

stéphane ducasse <[hidden email]>  wrote...

>I thought that Hobbes was running on VW. At least the one that I have on my machine.
>Where can I find the Squeak one?

Hi, Stef -

A couple of years ago I ported Vassili's Hobbes to Squeak.  Since he had not released it, I did not release my port.  Also there was the question of copyright on the original St-80 V2 image, so he was not sure how to deal with that.  Together we both extended it so it could run the Apple APDA release which was publicly available.

Vassili and i had planned to get together soon, so I'll see if we can't coordinate some sort of release.

        - Dan
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;)
cool. This is ***still*** on mmy todo list to really play with hobbes.
I should stop to do too much stuff and focus on the fun I want :) and  
Hobbes in that.
(I read the alto file-system in the vw version and I was really  
amazed that vassili could reverse engineer it on one day :))

Stef

On 15 avr. 06, at 17:46, Dan Ingalls wrote: