How to get GLORP

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> I'm a Squeak newbie. I'm trying to get GLORP. But I'm encountering
> *endless* problems...
>  
> First, in Squeak 3.9, I try using SqueakMap Package Loader to install
> GLORP 0.3.138. I encounter the following error:
>  
>     Error occurred during install:
>     UndefinedObject>>methodsFor:stamp:
>  
> Then I try to get GLORP off the Internet. I find it at map.squeak.org
> <http://map.squeak.org>. But the download is in SAR format!!!
>  

> I'm a Squeak newbie. I'm trying to get GLORP. But I'm encountering
> *endless* problems...
>  
> First, in Squeak 3.9, I try using SqueakMap Package Loader to install
> GLORP 0.3.138. I encounter the following error:
>  
>     Error occurred during install:
>     UndefinedObject>>methodsFor:stamp:
>  
> Then I try to get GLORP off the Internet. I find it at map.squeak.org.
> But the download is in SAR format!!!
>  
> Then I look for something that will un-SAR this file. It's called
> SAPCAR.exe and there is no friggin' way for me to get it!
>  
> I tried to find Nevin Pratt, the maintainer. But his website
> (www.smalltalkpro.com) no longer exists!
>  
> So how do I get GLORP successfully into my Squeak environment???
>  

>    I'm a Squeak newbie. I'm trying to get GLORP. But I'm encountering
>    *endless* problems...
>    
>    First, in Squeak 3.9, I try using SqueakMap Package Loader to install
>    GLORP 0.3.138. I encounter the following error:
>    
>        Error occurred during install:
>        UndefinedObject>>methodsFor:stamp:
>    
>    Then I try to get GLORP off the Internet. I find it at map.squeak.org. But
>    the download is in SAR format!!!

> I am totally flabbergasted that Squeak understands the SAR format!  
> I never would've expected that in a million years! This fact is not  
> documented anywhere (except here).
>
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>
> I'm only going by what I read on the Internet. People like Ramon  
> Leon think very highly of the PostgreSQL/GLORP combination. So I've  
> installed PostgreSQL. Now I need GLORP.
>
> I suppose I could use Magma. I'm concerned about multiuser access  
> and database locking, though. How well does Magma scale?
>
> (I'm trying to go Open Source/Free Software all the way. So that  
> sort of rules out Gemstone.)
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> On 7/10/07, Matthew Fulmer <[hidden email]> wrote: On Tue, Jul  
> 10, 2007 at 10:48:00AM -0400, Richard Eng wrote:
> >    I'm a Squeak newbie. I'm trying to get GLORP. But I'm  
> encountering
> >    *endless* problems...
> >
> >    First, in Squeak 3.9 , I try using SqueakMap Package Loader to  
> install
> >    GLORP 0.3.138. I encounter the following error:
> >
> >        Error occurred during install:
> >        UndefinedObject>>methodsFor:stamp:
> >
> >    Then I try to get GLORP off the Internet. I find it at  
> map.squeak.org. But
> >    the download is in SAR format!!!
>
> SAR is a format that Squeak understands directly. To open a file
> with squeak, either drag it from the OS into Squeak, or use the
> file list (World Menu -> open... -> file list). Either way will
> give you the option to open, unzip, or install the SAR package.
>
> I tried doing this, and got the same error as you encountered
> above. I noted that SqueakMap says the package is only tested in
> 3.8, so I tried installing it in Squeak 3.8. I got
> Squeak3.8.1-7067, upgraded SqueakMap, then tried installing
> GLORP port, and got the same error as before.
>
> Next, I tried reading the package description, and it said that
> it requires the Ansi compatibility package and the Posgres
> package. So, Back to 3.9 I went and tried loading those two
> packages. I loaded those two packages from SqueakMap, then
> retried installing GLORP port from SqueakMap. This time it
> got further, but it failed at Dialect>>determineDialect. I
> modified Dialect>>basicIsSqueak to return true, and tried the
> install again. It still failed.
>
> On the other hand, what are you trying to do? You seem to want a
> database. There are several databases Squeak supports. The
> most well supported is the image itself. Next is the Magma
> Object database. Also, Gemstone Smalltalk prides itself in
> having the best in-image database of any Smalltalk.
>
> Is GLORP really what you want? If so, I would recommend
> trying this on Squeak3.8-6665 (noted from the GLORP
> SqueakMap description):
> - Open SqueakMap, and let it update itself and load Monticello
> - Install Ansi Compatibility from SqueakMap
> - Install PosgreSQL client from SqueakMap. The GLORP description
>   in SqueakMap recommends version 0.9.2, which is not the latest.
> - Install GLORP port from SqueakMap
>
> --
> Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/
> Help improve Squeak Documentation: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808
>
>
>

> On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 10:48 -0400, Richard Eng wrote:
>> I'm a Squeak newbie. I'm trying to get GLORP. But I'm encountering
>> *endless* problems...
>>
>> First, in Squeak 3.9, I try using SqueakMap Package Loader to install
>> GLORP 0.3.138. I encounter the following error:
>>
>>     Error occurred during install:
>>     UndefinedObject>>methodsFor:stamp:
>>
>> Then I try to get GLORP off the Internet. I find it at  
>> map.squeak.org.
>> But the download is in SAR format!!!
>>
>> Then I look for something that will un-SAR this file. It's called
>> SAPCAR.exe and there is no friggin' way for me to get it!
>>
>> I tried to find Nevin Pratt, the maintainer. But his website
>> (www.smalltalkpro.com) no longer exists!
>>
>> So how do I get GLORP successfully into my Squeak environment???
>>
> Your problem has todo with squeak 3.9. If you want to use the
> sotware from squeakmap you can do this easily by using squeak 3.8.
>
> If you want to use squeak 3.9 you should get used to monticello.
> If you click on the background in the squeak window a menu appears
> and you can find open...  then open Monticello Browser.
>
> You need to enter new repositories by clicking +Repository. The URL
> are most interesting for you are
>
> http://www.squeaksource.com/GlorpPreload
> http://www.squeaksource.com/Glorp
> http://www.squeaksource.com/GlorpPostload
>
> Open GlorpPreload and select the topmost entry and press load. Then
> open Glorp and do the same. I uploaded a new version a few minutes
> ago which should load into 3.9. Finally open GlorpPostload and load
> the topmost entry you'll find there. Be sure you loaded the Post-
> gresql client and Ansi compatibility packages from squeakmap before
>
> Let me know if you were successful.
>
> Norbert
>
>
>