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L'Valente

How to jump from a project to another not yet loaded?

I teach future primary teachers to use Squeak etoys. One of my pupils asked me how we could load a project from another. I'll explain. She was a little project where students must choose a item and, according the choice a new project, previous published, will load.
Unfortunately I can't solve this!. I'm not a programmer, just a newbie squeak user.
Can anyone help?

AL Valente

Milan Zimmermann-2

Re: How to jump from a project to another not yet loaded?

Hi Al,

I am not sure I understand exactly what you are looking for (maybe you are
looking for "programatic" solution). In terms of navigating and
opening/loading projects, there are two tools.

Click on "Widgets" on the bottom and drag out the "Object Catalog". In there,
one item is named "navigation". click on it, you will find 2 items:
- Project History
- Thread navigator

Drag out one of them.

Project History allows you to load any project - click on the top bar and play
with it.

ThreadNavigator is powerful but I find it confusing at first.

Hope this helps some,

Milan

On 2008 January 8, valente wrote:
> I teach future primary teachers to use Squeak etoys. One of my pupils asked
> me how we could load a project from another. I'll explain. She was a little
> project where students must choose a item and, according the choice a new
> project, previous published, will load.
> Unfortunately I can't solve this!. I'm not a programmer, just a newbie
> squeak user.
> Can anyone help?
>
> AL Valente

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L'Valente

Re: How to jump from a project to another not yet loaded?

I appreciate your concern, but this solution don't fill my needs, cause the projects that I want to jump to aren't loaded in the world, they are in the same folder.
I'll need to interact with objects, like hotspots or image maps, not to a buttons group.

milan.zimmermann wrote

Hi Al,

I am not sure I understand exactly what you are looking for (maybe you are
looking for "programatic" solution). In terms of navigating and
opening/loading projects, there are two tools.

Click on "Widgets" on the bottom and drag out the "Object Catalog". In there,
one item is named "navigation". click on it, you will find 2 items:
- Project History
- Thread navigator

Drag out one of them.

Project History allows you to load any project - click on the top bar and play
with it.

ThreadNavigator is powerful but I find it confusing at first.

Hope this helps some,

Milan

On 2008 January 8, valente wrote:
> I teach future primary teachers to use Squeak etoys. One of my pupils asked
> me how we could load a project from another. I'll explain. She was a little
> project where students must choose a item and, according the choice a new
> project, previous published, will load.
> Unfortunately I can't solve this!. I'm not a programmer, just a newbie
> squeak user.
> Can anyone help?
>
> AL Valente

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Karl-19

Re: How to jump from a project to another not yet loaded?

valente wrote:

> I appreciate your concern, but this solution don't fill my needs, cause the
> projects that I want to jump to aren't loaded in the world, they are in the
> same folder.
> I'll need to interact with objects, like hotspots or image maps, not to a
> buttons group.
>
> :-) AL
>
>
> milan.zimmermann wrote:
>
>> Hi Al,
>>
>> I am not sure I understand exactly what you are looking for (maybe you are
>> looking for "programatic" solution). In terms of navigating and
>> opening/loading projects, there are two tools.
>>
>> Click on "Widgets" on the bottom and drag out the "Object Catalog". In
>> there,
>> one item is named "navigation". click on it, you will find 2 items:
>> - Project History
>> - Thread navigator
>>
>> Drag out one of them.
>>
>> Project History allows you to load any project - click on the top bar and
>> play
>> with it.
>>
>> ThreadNavigator is powerful but I find it confusing at first.
>>
>> Hope this helps some,
>>
>> Milan
>>
>> On 2008 January 8, valente wrote:
>>
>>> I teach future primary teachers to use Squeak etoys. One of my pupils
>>> asked
>>> me how we could load a project from another. I'll explain. She was a
>>> little
>>> project where students must choose a item and, according the choice a new
>>> project, previous published, will load.
>>> Unfortunately I can't solve this!. I'm not a programmer, just a newbie
>>> squeak user.
>>> Can anyone help?
>>>
>>> AL Valente
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Squeakland mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Look at this thread on the Etoys list on OLPC
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2007-November/001549.html

Karl

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Milan Zimmermann-2

Re: How to jump from a project to another not yet loaded?

In reply to this post by L'Valente

Sounds like you need to load projects, previously saved as "save project on
file" from the filesystem, is that correct?

If so, one facility that can be used is either Squeak's File Finder or "Find a
Project". In Squeak's Navigator on the bottom, look for the "Find" button,
click on in and hold the nouse down for 3-4 seconds. A menu with selection
will come up, click "find a project". This will open a browser.

Another more user interfacish solution would be to write a program that will
read all ".pr" files and their images from "current directory", and display
them, in World ... this is probably closer to what yo are thinking about, is
that right?

Milan

On 2008 January 14, valente wrote:

> I appreciate your concern, but this solution don't fill my needs, cause the
> projects that I want to jump to aren't loaded in the world, they are in the
> same folder.
> I'll need to interact with objects, like hotspots or image maps, not to a
> buttons group.
>
> :-) AL
>
> milan.zimmermann wrote:
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > I am not sure I understand exactly what you are looking for (maybe you
> > are looking for "programatic" solution). In terms of navigating and
> > opening/loading projects, there are two tools.
> >
> > Click on "Widgets" on the bottom and drag out the "Object Catalog". In
> > there,
> > one item is named "navigation". click on it, you will find 2 items:
> > - Project History
> > - Thread navigator
> >
> > Drag out one of them.
> >
> > Project History allows you to load any project - click on the top bar and
> > play
> > with it.
> >
> > ThreadNavigator is powerful but I find it confusing at first.
> >
> > Hope this helps some,
> >
> > Milan
> >
> > On 2008 January 8, valente wrote:
> >> I teach future primary teachers to use Squeak etoys. One of my pupils
> >> asked
> >> me how we could load a project from another. I'll explain. She was a
> >> little
> >> project where students must choose a item and, according the choice a
> >> new project, previous published, will load.
> >> Unfortunately I can't solve this!. I'm not a programmer, just a newbie
> >> squeak user.
> >> Can anyone help?
> >>
> >> AL Valente
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Squeakland mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

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L'Valente

Re: How to jump from a project to another not yet loaded?

Hi friends,
No one of the solutions fits my needs.
I've a project (Squeak 3.9). This project has a big image sliced into parts, like a image map with hotspots.
I'll need a solution to load the a different project, according the image the user clicks. One project for each particular slice (image).
The idea is partialy covered in Etoys (from OLPC), but I don't know how to implement this in Squeak 3.9. I've copied the script, but I got a NotUnderstood Message.
Thanks a lot.
AL

milan.zimmermann wrote

Sounds like you need to load projects, previously saved as "save project on
file" from the filesystem, is that correct?

If so, one facility that can be used is either Squeak's File Finder or "Find a
Project". In Squeak's Navigator on the bottom, look for the "Find" button,
click on in and hold the nouse down for 3-4 seconds. A menu with selection
will come up, click "find a project". This will open a browser.

Another more user interfacish solution would be to write a program that will
read all ".pr" files and their images from "current directory", and display
them, in World ... this is probably closer to what yo are thinking about, is
that right?

Milan

On 2008 January 14, valente wrote:
> I appreciate your concern, but this solution don't fill my needs, cause the
> projects that I want to jump to aren't loaded in the world, they are in the
> same folder.
> I'll need to interact with objects, like hotspots or image maps, not to a
> buttons group.
>
> :-) AL
>
> milan.zimmermann wrote:
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > I am not sure I understand exactly what you are looking for (maybe you
> > are looking for "programatic" solution). In terms of navigating and
> > opening/loading projects, there are two tools.
> >
> > Click on "Widgets" on the bottom and drag out the "Object Catalog". In
> > there,
> > one item is named "navigation". click on it, you will find 2 items:
> > - Project History
> > - Thread navigator
> >
> > Drag out one of them.
> >
> > Project History allows you to load any project - click on the top bar and
> > play
> > with it.
> >
> > ThreadNavigator is powerful but I find it confusing at first.
> >
> > Hope this helps some,
> >
> > Milan
> >
> > On 2008 January 8, valente wrote:
> >> I teach future primary teachers to use Squeak etoys. One of my pupils
> >> asked
> >> me how we could load a project from another. I'll explain. She was a
> >> little
> >> project where students must choose a item and, according the choice a
> >> new project, previous published, will load.
> >> Unfortunately I can't solve this!. I'm not a programmer, just a newbie
> >> squeak user.
> >> Can anyone help?
> >>
> >> AL Valente
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Squeakland mailing list
> > Squeakland@squeakland.org
> > http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

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Milan Zimmermann-2

Re: How to jump from a project to another not yet loaded?

HI,

I think I understand now what you mean.

A slight modification on what I think you tried in OLPC. The 3.9 version does
not have the "ProjectLoading openFromImagePath"

1) put an image (ellipse for example) into world.
2) Click on the eye "viewer" and drag out a "Empty script. "
3) In the script, change "Normal" to "NouseUp"
4) In the script, click on the little square on top, third from left.
5) type in:
enterTestOpenProject
ProjectLoading
openFromDirectory: '/projects-dir'
andFileName: 'MyProject.pr'.
6) Adjust the name and directory to your needs, and hit Alt-S
(screenshot also attached)

Clicking on the image should now enter "MyProject.pr"

Is this what you were looking for?

Milan

On 2008 January 18, valente wrote:

> Hi friends,
> No one of the solutions fits my needs.
> I've a project (Squeak 3.9). This project has a big image sliced into
> parts, like a image map with hotspots.
> I'll need a solution to load the a different project, according the image
> the user clicks. One project for each particular slice (image).
> The idea is partialy covered in Etoys (from OLPC), but I don't know how to
> implement this in Squeak 3.9. I've copied the script, but I got a
> NotUnderstood Message.
> Thanks a lot.
> AL
>
> milan.zimmermann wrote:
> > Sounds like you need to load projects, previously saved as "save project
> > on
> > file" from the filesystem, is that correct?
> >
> > If so, one facility that can be used is either Squeak's File Finder or
> > "Find a
> > Project". In Squeak's Navigator on the bottom, look for the "Find"
> > button, click on in and hold the nouse down for 3-4 seconds. A menu with
> > selection will come up, click "find a project". This will open a browser.
> >
> > Another more user interfacish solution would be to write a program that
> > will
> > read all ".pr" files and their images from "current directory", and
> > display
> > them, in World ... this is probably closer to what yo are thinking about,
> > is
> > that right?
> >
> > Milan
> >
> > On 2008 January 14, valente wrote:
> >> I appreciate your concern, but this solution don't fill my needs, cause
> >> the
> >> projects that I want to jump to aren't loaded in the world, they are in
> >> the
> >> same folder.
> >> I'll need to interact with objects, like hotspots or image maps, not to
> >> a buttons group.
> >>
> >> :-) AL
> >>
> >> milan.zimmermann wrote:
> >> > Hi Al,
> >> >
> >> > I am not sure I understand exactly what you are looking for (maybe you
> >> > are looking for "programatic" solution). In terms of navigating and
> >> > opening/loading projects, there are two tools.
> >> >
> >> > Click on "Widgets" on the bottom and drag out the "Object Catalog". In
> >> > there,
> >> > one item is named "navigation". click on it, you will find 2 items:
> >> > - Project History
> >> > - Thread navigator
> >> >
> >> > Drag out one of them.
> >> >
> >> > Project History allows you to load any project - click on the top bar
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> > play
> >> > with it.
> >> >
> >> > ThreadNavigator is powerful but I find it confusing at first.
> >> >
> >> > Hope this helps some,
> >> >
> >> > Milan
> >> >
> >> > On 2008 January 8, valente wrote:
> >> >> I teach future primary teachers to use Squeak etoys. One of my pupils
> >> >> asked
> >> >> me how we could load a project from another. I'll explain. She was a
> >> >> little
> >> >> project where students must choose a item and, according the choice a
> >> >> new project, previous published, will load.
> >> >> Unfortunately I can't solve this!. I'm not a programmer, just a
> >> >> newbie squeak user.
> >> >> Can anyone help?
> >> >>
> >> >> AL Valente
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Squeakland mailing list
> >> > [hidden email]
> >> > http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Squeakland mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

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