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Jeff VanDrimmelen
Hey All,

I was wondering how I create objects inside of Croquet?  I assume there are probably a bazillion ways to do it, but I am wondering if there is also a way to import 3D objects?  Can we import directly from Google Sketchup or perhaps the Alice program? 

Thanks for all your help!!

~Jeff

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Jeff VanDrimmelen
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University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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Paul Sheldon-2


Jeff VanDrimmelen wrote:
Hey All,

I was wondering how I create objects inside of Croquet?  I assume there are probably a bazillion ways to do it, but I am wondering if there is also a way to import 3D objects?
I have gone through Americo tutorials and used Gimp2 and Blender to put stuff in by his instructions:
http://opencroquet.org/index.php/Tutorials

Someone wrote about getting obj files in without turning them into ASE files with Americo's stuff (you could search nabble for threads, as I have done for you to wet your feet):
http://www.nabble.com/Croquet---User-f14183.html
you'll note your e mail is there and that this archive is searchable.
I searched obj, knowing that obj was the key, not object from dosing myself with this list :
http://www.nabble.com/getting-the-avatars-%28*.obj-and-*.bvh%29-tf4308268.html#a12264617

Hey, I was in this thread and I messed with big John who wasn't only an object but had animation structure built in.
Can we import directly from Google Sketchup or perhaps the Alice program?
I am very vague about Alice program memories from reading a thesis a way back.

There was some sort of plug in "inflatable drawing program" other than the one already built in, but I can't pull a key to search for from my memory.

Sorry for forgetting that.

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Luis-24
Hiya,

I think you're looking for Plopp:

http://www.planet-plopp.com/en/biggerkids.html


And for Second Lifers:

http://www.secondplopp.com/



Cheers,

Luis.



Paul Sheldon wrote:

> There was some sort of plug in "inflatable drawing program" other than
> the one already built in, but I can't pull a key to search for from my
> memory.
>
> Sorry for forgetting that.
>>
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googled plopp croquet and got nabble hit as follows

Paul Sheldon-2

--- Luis <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hiya,
>
> I think you're looking for Plopp:
>

I googled plopp croquet and got a nabble hit :

http://www.nabble.com/-croquet--Plopp,-The-Cool-3D-Painting-Tool-for-download-t3472694.html

Bert Freudenberg said the algorithm was in croquet,
but the ui
in plop, but the thread didn't indicate that you could
get
a factory going to build worlds in croquet with a ui.

Perhaps you have to code the objects in squeak but you
are helped by a subroutine with the algorithm in it.

I didn't have the nerve to refine 863 google hits nor
look past
the first hit. I don't know that is good epistomology
from
what I know.

I think if plopp makes obj or ase files, I know how to
make
the code for an island to import the drawings.

googling plopp ase obj got me a hit saying .vrml
reader in croquet :
http://news.squeak.org/2006/12/31/croquet-edit-and-create-3d-objects/

I don't know how to write the code for vrml or obj,
only ase.

I think the thread I mentioned had an exercise where
croquet
menus took in obj files and involved no croquet code.

Maybe you will follow up on this last hit and see how
vrml
is read. I have adventures in physics tomorrow and
sleep now.
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Re: Importing Objects

dcorking
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At 02:55 in this movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKi-fkyAtg8&NR=1

Julian Lombardi loads a 3D extrusion drawing tool from his tools menu.
 However I can't see what it is.  Do you know if this is available in
Monticello or in a dev image?
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Re: Importing Objects

David Faught
There are several things in the video that are from the earlier
Jasmine release of Croquet and have not (yet) been brought forward
into the current Hedgehog release SDK.  The extrusion tool you are
looking at is called Wicket, and falls in that category.  It is kind
of a pet project of David A. Smith.  There is a brief description
towards the bottom of the development roadmap at
http://croquetconsortium.org/index.php/Road_Map

Dave

On 10/11/07, David Corking <[hidden email]> wrote:
> At 02:55 in this movie
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKi-fkyAtg8&NR=1
>
> Julian Lombardi loads a 3D extrusion drawing tool from his tools menu.
>  However I can't see what it is.  Do you know if this is available in
> Monticello or in a dev image?
>
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David A Smith
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This is the second iteration of the Wicket design tool I built. Most of
the UI elements I worked on (that you see in the video) are described
here:
<http://www.opencroquet.org/images/6/66/2004_Croquet_Menagerie_of_New_UIs.pdf>.
Wisconsin did the video avatars using Yoshiki Oshima's video encoder and
the early menuing interface, University of Minnesota did the avatars and
the helicopter, and Andreas and I did most of everything else except the
models. The avatar work at Minnesota is currently a very hot project now.

I put the Wicket project on hold to focus on getting Hedgehog out the
door and more recently Qwaq Forums. I would like to revisit it sometime
next year, but decided I would need a bit more of an externally
extensible foundation before pursuing it.

David


David Corking wrote:
> At 02:55 in this movie
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKi-fkyAtg8&NR=1
>
> Julian Lombardi loads a 3D extrusion drawing tool from his tools menu.
>  However I can't see what it is.  Do you know if this is available in
> Monticello or in a dev image?
>  

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great, downloaded pdf and movie for mac using Perian application prescription for sound from flash

Paul Sheldon-2
I am in a library in Lancaster setting up computer
algebra in Physics
studies and will look forward to this stuff when I
pass milestone
of using the textbook I found there to achieve
milestone.

In other words, the movie and the pdf will be my
reward
at the end of a dark tunnel (confirm black hole with
changing mass
has "hover point").

This is a very exciting day for me. I can barely sit
still and do this
algebra which I sketched, because, at last, I know
what to do
and am going to enjoy knowing awhile looking at the
croquet posts.

I thought my post better personal than public.
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great, downloaded pdf and movie for mac using Perian application prescription for sound from flash

Paul Sheldon-2
In reply to this post by David A Smith
I am in a library in Lancaster setting up computer
algebra in Physics
studies and will look forward to this stuff when I
pass milestone
of using the textbook I found there to achieve
milestone.

In other words, the movie and the pdf will be my
reward
at the end of a dark tunnel (confirm black hole with
changing mass
has "hover point").

This is a very exciting day for me. I can barely sit
still and do this
algebra which I sketched, because, at last, I know
what to do
and am going to enjoy knowing awhile looking at the
croquet posts.

I thought my post better personal than public.
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great, downloaded pdf and movie for mac using Perian application prescription for sound from flash

Paul Sheldon-2
In reply to this post by David A Smith
I am in a library in Lancaster setting up computer
algebra in Physics
studies and will look forward to this stuff when I
pass milestone
of using the textbook I found there to achieve
milestone.

In other words, the movie and the pdf will be my
reward
at the end of a dark tunnel (confirm black hole with
changing mass
has "hover point").

This is a very exciting day for me. I can barely sit
still and do this
algebra which I sketched, because, at last, I know
what to do
and am going to enjoy knowing awhile looking at the
croquet posts.

I thought my post better personal than public.
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dcorking
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Thanks David (both Davids).  Very interesting.

Jeff, you may also be interested in this from the croquet-user archives:

http://news.squeak.org/2006/12/31/croquet-edit-and-create-3d-objects/