International text input on X11

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> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
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>> Hi Yoshiki,
>>
>>     it's probably just the absence of a sources file.  I don't include it
>> in the VMs on my site to save space.  Simply link the sources into the lib
>> dir in the directory tree, or include the sources in the directory
>> containing the image.
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>
> Oops, it needs to go I'm the same directory as the VM, so e.g. add
>     cogspurlinux/lib/squeak/4.5-3692/ ]SqueakV50.sources
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>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:34 PM, David T. Lewis <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > There is an ./images directory that contains development images, and
>>> > a README to explain. There are also ./build.* directories for building
>>> > various configurations.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> First, I can run Squeak-5.0-All-in-One.zip.  on Pi.
>>>
>>> I managed to compile squeak.cog.spur VM on ARM (raspberry pi).
>>> However, when I tried to open the image in the All in One, it creates
>>> a window but inside of it is just blank and does not do any
>>> interaction.  I downloaded
>>>
>>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3692/cogspurlinuxhtARM-16.18.3692.tgz
>>> and tried it, but it has the same problem.
>>>
>>> I looked into the chain of shell scripts and tried a command line like:
>>>
>>> env
>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/pi/tmp/cogspurlinuxhtARM/lib/squeak/5.0-3692:/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf:/lib:/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf:/usr/lib
>>> /home/pi/tmp/cogspurlinuxhtARM/lib/squeak/5.0-3692/squeak
>>> ~/Squeak5.0-15113.image
>>>
>>> but no avail.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know why the all in one vm and image works but the VM I
>>> downloaded from Eliot's site (nor the one I compiled)?
>>>
>>> --
>>> -- Yoshiki
>>>
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>> --
>> _,,,^..^,,,_
>> best, Eliot
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> --
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot
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> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 5:58 PM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Another possibility is Yoshiki has an old version of Raspbian; old kernel from early last year (?) wouldn’t let us futz wit the timer thread priority without pain. It’s been a while since that was fixed but if you have an old Raspbian… except that ought to prevent the all-in-one system running. But this is unix, which is carefully designed to drive one to the edge of madness, so maybe you just had the wrong kind of egg for your breakfast last time there was a blue moon.
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> That sounds plausible.  I did "apt-get update" to get some packages
> loadable but did not go on to update the entire system. I'll try that.
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> --
> -- Yoshiki

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>> On 09-05-2016, at 10:35 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> The VM still does not display anything in the white window after I did
>> apt-get dist-upgrade, and copy the .sources file to the same directly.
>> (But I did not have an egg this morning).  I'll try some display
>> options.  But also, it appears that the source code for the Cog seems
>> to have the part I wrote for the composition input.  The goal may be
>> nearer than I originally thought.
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> Aaand…. of course; built the new vm with hostwindowplugin included to respond to Levente and what do I get? blank white screen. Sigh.

> On 09-05-2016, at 11:16 AM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On 09-05-2016, at 11:05 AM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> An svn diff -r 3663:3692 in platforms/unix shows only some (to me) innocuous changes in vm/aio.c
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>> More unixy expertise required to say if that has anything to do with it.
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> Building with the older version makes no difference for me. Let’s try an older tree.

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>> On 09-05-2016, at 10:47 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Oh, so you do get blank white screen?  So, I guess I'd checkout an
>> older revision of the svn repo just for now. What would a good
>> revision to go back to?
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> The last one I have built for Pi and running ok is 3663 and it just went bad in 3692. So I guess we start binary dividing...
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> tim
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> On 09-05-2016, at 11:24 AM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On 09-05-2016, at 11:16 AM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> On 09-05-2016, at 11:05 AM, tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> An svn diff -r 3663:3692 in platforms/unix shows only some (to me) innocuous changes in vm/aio.c
>>>
>>> More unixy expertise required to say if that has anything to do with it.
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>> Building with the older version makes no difference for me. Let’s try an older tree.
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> 3680 fails, let’s try 3670

> On May 9, 2016, at 21:34, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On 09-05-16 20:52, tim Rowledge wrote:
>> At this rate my Pi will wear out its SD card by the end of the day…
> Does a Pi3 have enough memory to build on a  ram disk?
>
> Stephan
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> On 10.05.2016, at 02:23, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> The VM still does not display anything in the white window after I did
>>> apt-get dist-upgrade, and copy the .sources file to the same directly.
>>> (But I did not have an egg this morning).  I'll try some display
>>> options.  But also, it appears that the source code for the Cog seems
>>> to have the part I wrote for the composition input.  The goal may be
>>> nearer than I originally thought.
>>
>> It may not as closer than I thought, however.  The world evolved to
>> use ibus; we'd need to add some more stuff, such as DBus...  I'll
>> report more tomorrow.
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> Doesn’t ibus generate “old” X events, too? The README suggests this should work:
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>         XMODIFIERS="@im=ibus" squeak
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> ... which we could put in the startup script.

> On May 11, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> On 10.05.2016, at 02:23, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> The VM still does not display anything in the white window after I did
>>>> apt-get dist-upgrade, and copy the .sources file to the same directly.
>>>> (But I did not have an egg this morning).  I'll try some display
>>>> options.  But also, it appears that the source code for the Cog seems
>>>> to have the part I wrote for the composition input.  The goal may be
>>>> nearer than I originally thought.
>>>
>>> It may not as closer than I thought, however.  The world evolved to
>>> use ibus; we'd need to add some more stuff, such as DBus...  I'll
>>> report more tomorrow.
>>
>> Doesn’t ibus generate “old” X events, too? The README suggests this should work:
>>
>>        XMODIFIERS="@im=ibus" squeak
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>> ... which we could put in the startup script.
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> This does not quite work.  And also Abe-san says that I'd better make
> it work with scim first so I am taking that path now.
>
> BTW, I have a long standing question of the development process.  I
> create a VM by doing ./mvm, which creates display drivers and VM in
> one way or another, and installs them to products directory somewhere
> upthere.  I have trouble seeing my changes to code gets reflected
> sometimes.  (Say, I change a printf message somehwere in sqUnixX11.c,
> run mvm and invoke the squeak shell script in
> products/cogspurlinuxhtARM/ but it seems to pick up a different binary
> from somewhere else.