Introducing Huemul

Guillermo Adrián Molina writes:
 > There you will find information to download a demo of the Smalltalk
 > implementation that translates st code directly to assembler, using
 > Exupery as the final compiler phase.
 >
 > Please let me know what you think.

Are you planning on releasing source? I'm curious to see how you're
using Exupery.

  bash-3.1$ ./huemul
  Huemul 0.1
  quit to exit
  > 0 benchmark
  Segmentation fault

I'm running Gentoo 64 on an Athlon 64. I tried both under 64 bit
and 32 bit compatability mode (a chroot jail).

It might be worthwhile announcing somewhere else as well. This list
is small, though seems to have a few interested people.

Bryce
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Well you can see the ST source with the example in the web page.
I use just the Exupery's low level compiler. I had to replace the high
level compiler, because it is too tightly coupled to Squeak.
But, yes  I am planning to release source code. I am not doing so yet,
because I would have to explain a lot of things (about the compilation
process). When I get a simpler compilation process I will let anyone see
(and help).
But please be patient, I am not far from that.

>   bash-3.1$ ./huemul
>   Huemul 0.1
>   quit to exit
>   > 0 benchmark
>   Segmentation fault
>
Yes, sorry about that, It is too buggy.
But, I have a 32 bit machine, It work for me:

Huemul 0.1
quit to exit
> 0 benchmark
68342891

Now the numbers are not so great because I have partially implemented an
external GC. (http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc)

> I'm running Gentoo 64 on an Athlon 64. I tried both under 64 bit
> and 32 bit compatability mode (a chroot jail).
>
> It might be worthwhile announcing somewhere else as well. This list
> is small, though seems to have a few interested people.
>

I am planning to do so. But first I wanted to know what Exupery's palls
have to say about it.
Something else, I am planning to implement the Exupery's high level too.
But for now it is enough. Please keep making a better Exupery, it will
help us all.

Cheers, Guille

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> memory on disk (arbitrary size) and you can run any number of
> VMs on  > that image concurrently ... pretty cool.
>
> Magma does a similar thing for Squeak.
>
> Bryce
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Well putting scalability out of the scene maybe yes but in a sense in which
it will miss it's primary target.
Cheers,
Sebastian
PD: the prototype is on Squeak

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Here I see things a little different.  I mean that is a good thing to hope
for in the future, but I'm a fan of smaller bite-sized chunks.  I think a
good first step would be to be to (1) make a DSL-style system in Smalltalk
for creating assembly code (think Slang but without the limitations) and (2)
going right to the assembly, no translations to more-limited-then-asm
intermediates like (especially) C.

I'm not sure how much of this has been done already, but I think we have a
lot of options today (e.g. Pepsi, maybe some code from Exupery and maybe
Huemul) to explore this.

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On Fri, 25 May 2007 23:56:02 +0200, Guillermo Adrián Molina wrote:
> Bryce wrote:
...
>> It might be worthwhile announcing somewhere else as well. This list
>> is small, though seems to have a few interested people.
>>
>
> I am planning to do so. But first I wanted to know what Exupery's palls
> have to say about it.

Don't hesitate, I've already received complaint that the squeak-dev  
community (those not subscribed here) wants to be informed :)

/Klaus

> Something else, I am planning to implement the Exupery's high level too.
> But for now it is enough. Please keep making a better Exupery, it will
> help us all.
>
> Cheers, Guille
>
>> Bryce

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