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I would like to introduce amber as client-side development environment in one of our project. The project is maintained in TFS source control. It is important that amber can be also included in TFS. Placing the whole amber environment under TFS is not an options. Especially bearing in mind that structural changes occur from verion to version.
Creating single JavaScript file for development (amber_core_devel.js) and deployment (amber_core_deploy.js) could be a way to go. What's the thought on that. In separate thread - "How to create a single deployment file with r.js or grunt?" - I tried to get an answer on the know-how of that. Unfortunately the problem hasn't been followed up by the amber community. In general if I rate amber as client-side development environment it is on the top of the list. However setting it up and deployment scores low. In my opinion it is necessary to improve these aspects. Having amber single Javascript files as part of the downloadable package would help with that. Additionally it would be a great help especially for newcomers if bower components used by amber were downloadable separately. Please comment. Thanks. |
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I feel your pain.
-- This is the kind of bumps we really need to think about addressing for real progress =/ On Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:25:24 PM UTC-3, laci wrote: I would like to introduce amber as client-side development environment in one You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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On March 23, 2014 laci started a thread
[amber-lang] How to create a single deployment file with r.js or grunt? It seems that he/she managed go get it working. I suggest that you continue with that thread and ask. --Hannes On 4/4/14, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote: > I feel your pain. > > This is the kind of bumps we really need to think about addressing for real > > progress =/ > > > > On Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:25:24 PM UTC-3, laci wrote: >> >> I would like to introduce amber as client-side development environment in >> >> one >> of our project. The project is maintained in TFS source control. It is >> important that amber can be also included in TFS. Placing the whole amber >> >> environment under TFS is not an options. Especially bearing in mind that >> structural changes occur from verion to version. >> >> Creating single JavaScript file for development (amber_core_devel.js) and >> >> deployment (amber_core_deploy.js) could be a way to go. What's the thought >> >> on that. >> >> In separate thread - "How to create a single deployment file with r.js or >> >> grunt?" - I tried to get an answer on the know-how of that. Unfortunately >> >> the problem hasn't been followed up by the amber community. >> >> In general if I rate amber as client-side development environment it is on >> >> the top of the list. >> >> However setting it up and deployment scores low. In my opinion it is >> necessary to improve these aspects. Having amber single Javascript files >> as >> part of the downloadable package would help with that. Additionally it >> would >> be a great help especially for newcomers if bower components used by amber >> >> were downloadable separately. >> >> Please comment. Thanks. >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Issues-with-amber-tp4752617.html >> Sent from the Amber Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [hidden email]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:08 PM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: On March 23, 2014 laci started a thread You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Jeremy Shute <[hidden email]> wrote: I have cloned the repo, done the npm install and bower install and started the server. but there is a missing jquery dependency with the setup.
Has Amber changed since them in a way that would lead to that issue? TIA Phil
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Probably. ;-) On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:01 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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A non-grunt version I did with the help of Herby 7 months ago worked fine for me
https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/issues/649 But then we got stuck with doing it with grunt and amber has been updated in the meantime. I have asked for suggestions how to proceed? On 4/4/14, Jeremy Shute <[hidden email]> wrote: > Probably. ;-) > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:01 PM, [hidden email] > <[hidden email]>wrote: > >> >> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Jeremy Shute <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Once upon a time I did this: >>> >>> https://github.com/shutej/amber-example >>> >>> Jeremy >>> >> >> I have cloned the repo, done the npm install and bower install and >> started >> the server. >> >> but there is a missing jquery dependency with the setup. >> >> Has Amber changed since them in a way that would lead to that issue? >> >> TIA >> Phil >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:08 PM, H. Hirzel >>> <[hidden email]>wrote: >>> >>>> On March 23, 2014 laci started a thread >>>> >>>> [amber-lang] How to create a single deployment file with r.js or grunt? >>>> >>>> >>>> It seems that he/she managed go get it working. I suggest that you >>>> continue with that thread and ask. >>>> >>>> --Hannes >>>> >>>> On 4/4/14, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> > I feel your pain. >>>> > >>>> > This is the kind of bumps we really need to think about addressing >>>> > for >>>> real >>>> > >>>> > progress =/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:25:24 PM UTC-3, laci wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> I would like to introduce amber as client-side development >>>> environment in >>>> >> >>>> >> one >>>> >> of our project. The project is maintained in TFS source control. It >>>> >> is >>>> >> important that amber can be also included in TFS. Placing the whole >>>> amber >>>> >> >>>> >> environment under TFS is not an options. Especially bearing in mind >>>> that >>>> >> structural changes occur from verion to version. >>>> >> >>>> >> Creating single JavaScript file for development >>>> >> (amber_core_devel.js) >>>> and >>>> >> >>>> >> deployment (amber_core_deploy.js) could be a way to go. What's the >>>> thought >>>> >> >>>> >> on that. >>>> >> >>>> >> In separate thread - "How to create a single deployment file with >>>> r.js or >>>> >> >>>> >> grunt?" - I tried to get an answer on the know-how of that. >>>> Unfortunately >>>> >> >>>> >> the problem hasn't been followed up by the amber community. >>>> >> >>>> >> In general if I rate amber as client-side development environment it >>>> is on >>>> >> >>>> >> the top of the list. >>>> >> >>>> >> However setting it up and deployment scores low. In my opinion it is >>>> >> necessary to improve these aspects. Having amber single Javascript >>>> files >>>> >> as >>>> >> part of the downloadable package would help with that. Additionally >>>> >> it >>>> >> would >>>> >> be a great help especially for newcomers if bower components used by >>>> amber >>>> >> >>>> >> were downloadable separately. >>>> >> >>>> >> Please comment. Thanks. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> View this message in context: >>>> >> http://forum.world.st/Issues-with-amber-tp4752617.html >>>> >> Sent from the Amber Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "amber-lang" group. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> > send >>>> an >>>> > email to [hidden email]. >>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "amber-lang" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [hidden email]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "amber-lang" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to [hidden email]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "amber-lang" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [hidden email]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [hidden email]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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Laci, may I ask you to describe in a very detailed way what you have
done so far so that we can follow up... --Hannes On 4/5/14, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > A non-grunt version I did with the help of Herby 7 months ago worked fine > for me > > https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/issues/649 > > But then we got stuck with doing it with grunt and amber has been > updated in the meantime. > > I have asked for suggestions how to proceed? > > On 4/4/14, Jeremy Shute <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Probably. ;-) >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:01 PM, [hidden email] >> <[hidden email]>wrote: >> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Jeremy Shute <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Once upon a time I did this: >>>> >>>> https://github.com/shutej/amber-example >>>> >>>> Jeremy >>>> >>> >>> I have cloned the repo, done the npm install and bower install and >>> started >>> the server. >>> >>> but there is a missing jquery dependency with the setup. >>> >>> Has Amber changed since them in a way that would lead to that issue? >>> >>> TIA >>> Phil >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:08 PM, H. Hirzel >>>> <[hidden email]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> On March 23, 2014 laci started a thread >>>>> >>>>> [amber-lang] How to create a single deployment file with r.js or >>>>> grunt? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It seems that he/she managed go get it working. I suggest that you >>>>> continue with that thread and ask. >>>>> >>>>> --Hannes >>>>> >>>>> On 4/4/14, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> > I feel your pain. >>>>> > >>>>> > This is the kind of bumps we really need to think about addressing >>>>> > for >>>>> real >>>>> > >>>>> > progress =/ >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:25:24 PM UTC-3, laci wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I would like to introduce amber as client-side development >>>>> environment in >>>>> >> >>>>> >> one >>>>> >> of our project. The project is maintained in TFS source control. It >>>>> >> is >>>>> >> important that amber can be also included in TFS. Placing the whole >>>>> amber >>>>> >> >>>>> >> environment under TFS is not an options. Especially bearing in mind >>>>> that >>>>> >> structural changes occur from verion to version. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Creating single JavaScript file for development >>>>> >> (amber_core_devel.js) >>>>> and >>>>> >> >>>>> >> deployment (amber_core_deploy.js) could be a way to go. What's the >>>>> thought >>>>> >> >>>>> >> on that. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> In separate thread - "How to create a single deployment file with >>>>> r.js or >>>>> >> >>>>> >> grunt?" - I tried to get an answer on the know-how of that. >>>>> Unfortunately >>>>> >> >>>>> >> the problem hasn't been followed up by the amber community. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> In general if I rate amber as client-side development environment >>>>> >> it >>>>> is on >>>>> >> >>>>> >> the top of the list. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> However setting it up and deployment scores low. In my opinion it >>>>> >> is >>>>> >> necessary to improve these aspects. Having amber single Javascript >>>>> files >>>>> >> as >>>>> >> part of the downloadable package would help with that. Additionally >>>>> >> it >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> be a great help especially for newcomers if bower components used >>>>> >> by >>>>> amber >>>>> >> >>>>> >> were downloadable separately. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Please comment. Thanks. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> View this message in context: >>>>> >> http://forum.world.st/Issues-with-amber-tp4752617.html >>>>> >> Sent from the Amber Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> > "amber-lang" group. >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> > send >>>>> an >>>>> > email to [hidden email]. >>>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "amber-lang" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [hidden email]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "amber-lang" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to [hidden email]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "amber-lang" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to [hidden email]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "amber-lang" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [hidden email]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. 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The solution will be to install grunt and add a
'all-in-one-deployment' task to Gruntfile.js http://gruntjs.com/getting-started On 4/5/14, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Laci, may I ask you to describe in a very detailed way what you have > done so far so that we can follow up... > > --Hannes > > On 4/5/14, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> A non-grunt version I did with the help of Herby 7 months ago worked fine >> for me >> >> https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber/issues/649 >> >> But then we got stuck with doing it with grunt and amber has been >> updated in the meantime. >> >> I have asked for suggestions how to proceed? >> >> On 4/4/14, Jeremy Shute <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Probably. ;-) >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 5:01 PM, [hidden email] >>> <[hidden email]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Jeremy Shute <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Once upon a time I did this: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/shutej/amber-example >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy >>>>> >>>> >>>> I have cloned the repo, done the npm install and bower install and >>>> started >>>> the server. >>>> >>>> but there is a missing jquery dependency with the setup. >>>> >>>> Has Amber changed since them in a way that would lead to that issue? >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> Phil >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:08 PM, H. Hirzel >>>>> <[hidden email]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On March 23, 2014 laci started a thread >>>>>> >>>>>> [amber-lang] How to create a single deployment file with r.js or >>>>>> grunt? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems that he/she managed go get it working. I suggest that you >>>>>> continue with that thread and ask. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Hannes >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/4/14, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> > I feel your pain. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > This is the kind of bumps we really need to think about addressing >>>>>> > for >>>>>> real >>>>>> > >>>>>> > progress =/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:25:24 PM UTC-3, laci wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I would like to introduce amber as client-side development >>>>>> environment in >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> one >>>>>> >> of our project. The project is maintained in TFS source control. >>>>>> >> It >>>>>> >> is >>>>>> >> important that amber can be also included in TFS. Placing the >>>>>> >> whole >>>>>> amber >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> environment under TFS is not an options. Especially bearing in >>>>>> >> mind >>>>>> that >>>>>> >> structural changes occur from verion to version. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Creating single JavaScript file for development >>>>>> >> (amber_core_devel.js) >>>>>> and >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> deployment (amber_core_deploy.js) could be a way to go. What's the >>>>>> thought >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> on that. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> In separate thread - "How to create a single deployment file with >>>>>> r.js or >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> grunt?" - I tried to get an answer on the know-how of that. >>>>>> Unfortunately >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> the problem hasn't been followed up by the amber community. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> In general if I rate amber as client-side development environment >>>>>> >> it >>>>>> is on >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> the top of the list. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> However setting it up and deployment scores low. In my opinion it >>>>>> >> is >>>>>> >> necessary to improve these aspects. Having amber single Javascript >>>>>> files >>>>>> >> as >>>>>> >> part of the downloadable package would help with that. >>>>>> >> Additionally >>>>>> >> it >>>>>> >> would >>>>>> >> be a great help especially for newcomers if bower components used >>>>>> >> by >>>>>> amber >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> were downloadable separately. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Please comment. Thanks. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> View this message in context: >>>>>> >> http://forum.world.st/Issues-with-amber-tp4752617.html >>>>>> >> Sent from the Amber Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> > "amber-lang" group. >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> > send >>>>>> an >>>>>> > email to [hidden email]. >>>>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "amber-lang" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send >>>>>> an email to [hidden email]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "amber-lang" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to [hidden email]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "amber-lang" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to [hidden email]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "amber-lang" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to [hidden email]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. 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