Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5 pending

>I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM  
>with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.
>
>http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html
>
>I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and  
>browser plugin to enable you to print some
>diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading,  
>I'll add more message in the future.
>
>The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit  
>the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens
>when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for  
>people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from
>cancelling the logout process.  MIT's Scratch will use this feature.
>
>Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do  
>not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature
>to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item  
>from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.
>
>
>3.8.15b5
> squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0)  
>no debug msgs
>
> npsqueak.c streamline context usage a bit, make local var versus  
>on structure
> add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
>
> sqMacMain.c Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug msgs
> debug messages for browser interface, and module loading
> Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit  
>immediately if
> operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout.  
>Normally false.
>
> sqMacUIAppleEvents.c If you logout we get a quit apple event msg,  
>normally we ignore,
> unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
>
> sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,  
>actually check to see if
> the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise  
>pass revised menu
> choice to Smalltalk.
>
> sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
>
>
> sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind  
>file does not print any msgs yet
>
>--
>========================================================================
>===
>John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>========================================================================
>===
>
>
>
>

> Hi,
>
> There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only, with
> Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.
>
> If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/ 
> earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the  
> mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but,
> on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish.  As you  
> push the
> button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's different
> yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.
>
> The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.
>
> Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!
>
> cheers
>
> bruce
>
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De: John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>
> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800
> Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5  pending
> À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
> [hidden email]>
>
>> I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM
>> with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.
>>
>> http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html
>>
>> I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and
>> browser plugin to enable you to print some
>> diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading,
>> I'll add more message in the future.
>>
>> The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit
>> the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens
>> when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for
>> people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from
>> cancelling the logout process.  MIT's Scratch will use this feature.
>>
>> Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do
>> not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature
>> to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item
>> from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.
>>
>>
>> 3.8.15b5
>> squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0)
>> no debug msgs
>>
>> npsqueak.c streamline context usage a bit, make local var versus
>> on structure
>> add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
>>
>> sqMacMain.c Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug  
>> msgs
>> debug messages for browser interface, and module loading
>> Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit
>> immediately if
>> operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout.
>> Normally false.
>>
>> sqMacUIAppleEvents.c If you logout we get a quit apple event msg,
>> normally we ignore,
>> unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
>>
>> sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,
>> actually check to see if
>> the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise
>> pass revised menu
>> choice to Smalltalk.
>>
>> sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
>>
>>
>> sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind
>> file does not print any msgs yet
>>
>> --
>> =====================================================================
>> ===
>> ===
>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>> =====================================================================
>> ===
>> ===
>>
>>
>>
>>

>Actually if you click on appeaarance and set the window or desktop  
>color you'll see the colors in the color picker *are* the same.
>But what is going on here is that the application is calculating a  
>Balloon 3D surface, however something is wrong somewhere so the
>surface colors aren't the same between the two platforms.
>
>Someone would have to dig deeper to understand why the colors are not  
>correct.
>
>On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only, with
>> Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.
>>
>> If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/ 
>> earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the  
>> mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but,
>> on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish.  As you  
>> push the
>> button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's different
>> yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.
>>
>> The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.
>>
>> Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> bruce
>>
>> ----- Message d'origine -----
>> De: John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800
>> Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5  pending
>> À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
>> [hidden email]>
>>
>>> I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM
>>> with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.
>>>
>>> http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html
>>>
>>> I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM and
>>> browser plugin to enable you to print some
>>> diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading,
>>> I'll add more message in the future.
>>>
>>> The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to quit
>>> the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens
>>> when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for
>>> people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from
>>> cancelling the logout process.  MIT's Scratch will use this feature.
>>>
>>> Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do
>>> not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature
>>> to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item
>>> from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.
>>>
>>>
>>> 3.8.15b5
>>> squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0)
>>> no debug msgs
>>>
>>> npsqueak.c streamline context usage a bit, make local var versus
>>> on structure
>>> add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
>>>
>>> sqMacMain.c Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug  
>>> msgs
>>> debug messages for browser interface, and module loading
>>> Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit
>>> immediately if
>>> operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout.
>>> Normally false.
>>>
>>> sqMacUIAppleEvents.c If you logout we get a quit apple event msg,
>>> normally we ignore,
>>> unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
>>>
>>> sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,
>>> actually check to see if
>>> the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise
>>> pass revised menu
>>> choice to Smalltalk.
>>>
>>> sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
>>>
>>>
>>> sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing, mind
>>> file does not print any msgs yet
>>>
>>> --
>>> =====================================================================
>>> ===
>>> ===
>>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>>> =====================================================================
>>> ===
>>> ===
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>--
>========================================================================
>===
>John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>========================================================================
>===
>
>
>
>

> Hi,
>
> Yea, sorry, that was a horrible description of the glitch.
>
> Yes, what I see is that only on B3D surfaces does yellow not show up.
> The colors normally are just perfect.
>
> Thanks!
>
> cheers
>
> bruce
>
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De: John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>
> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:30:12 -0700
> Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5  pending
> À: "Bruce O'Neel" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
> [hidden email]>
>
>> Actually if you click on appeaarance and set the window or desktop
>> color you'll see the colors in the color picker *are* the same.
>> But what is going on here is that the application is calculating a
>> Balloon 3D surface, however something is wrong somewhere so the
>> surface colors aren't the same between the two platforms.
>>
>> Someone would have to dig deeper to understand why the colors are not
>> correct.
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only,  
>>> with
>>> Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.
>>>
>>> If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/
>>> earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the
>>> mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but,
>>> on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish.  As you
>>> push the
>>> button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's  
>>> different
>>> yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.
>>>
>>> The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> bruce
>>>
>>> ----- Message d'origine -----
>>> De: John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800
>>> Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5  pending
>>> À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
>>> [hidden email]>
>>>
>>>> I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM
>>>> with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html
>>>>
>>>> I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM  
>>>> and
>>>> browser plugin to enable you to print some
>>>> diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading,
>>>> I'll add more message in the future.
>>>>
>>>> The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to  
>>>> quit
>>>> the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens
>>>> when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for
>>>> people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from
>>>> cancelling the logout process.  MIT's Scratch will use this  
>>>> feature.
>>>>
>>>> Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do
>>>> not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature
>>>> to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item
>>>> from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3.8.15b5
>>>> squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug  
>>>> msgs, (0)
>>>> no debug msgs
>>>>
>>>> npsqueak.c streamline context usage a bit, make local var  
>>>> versus
>>>> on structure
>>>> add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
>>>>
>>>> sqMacMain.c Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug
>>>> msgs
>>>> debug messages for browser interface, and module loading
>>>> Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit
>>>> immediately if
>>>> operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout.
>>>> Normally false.
>>>>
>>>> sqMacUIAppleEvents.c If you logout we get a quit apple event  
>>>> msg,
>>>> normally we ignore,
>>>> unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
>>>>
>>>> sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,
>>>> actually check to see if
>>>> the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise
>>>> pass revised menu
>>>> choice to Smalltalk.
>>>>
>>>> sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing,  
>>>> mind
>>>> file does not print any msgs yet
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ===================================================================
>>>> ==
>>>> ===
>>>> ===
>>>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>>>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>>>> ===================================================================
>>>> ==
>>>> ===
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> =====================================================================
>> ===
>> ===
>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>> =====================================================================
>> ===
>> ===
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

>That may well be not a VM problem.
>
>- Bert -
>
>On Mar 28, 2007, at 9:56 , Bruce O'Neel wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yea, sorry, that was a horrible description of the glitch.
>>
>> Yes, what I see is that only on B3D surfaces does yellow not show up.
>> The colors normally are just perfect.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> bruce
>>
>> ----- Message d'origine -----
>> De: John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:30:12 -0700
>> Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5  pending
>> À: "Bruce O'Neel" <[hidden email]>
>> Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
>> [hidden email]>
>>
>>> Actually if you click on appeaarance and set the window or desktop
>>> color you'll see the colors in the color picker *are* the same.
>>> But what is going on here is that the application is calculating a
>>> Balloon 3D surface, however something is wrong somewhere so the
>>> surface colors aren't the same between the two platforms.
>>>
>>> Someone would have to dig deeper to understand why the colors are not
>>> correct.
>>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> There seems to be a small problem with yellow on intel macs only,  
>>>> with
>>>> Squeak 3.8.15beta1U from the FTP site.
>>>>
>>>> If you download http://earth.pckswarms.ch/
>>>> earthSwarms-1.0_Mac.dmg.gz and run it on a PPC system then the
>>>> mountain peaks will be yellowish/brownish, but,
>>>> on an intel mac the mountain peaks will be purblish/bluish.  As you
>>>> push the
>>>> button labeled topography until it says cloud fraction, it's  
>>>> different
>>>> yellows on a PPC but all white on an Intel mac.
>>>>
>>>> The PPC behavior is the same as Linux and Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for all your work on the Mac VM!
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> bruce
>>>>
>>>> ----- Message d'origine -----
>>>> De: John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:32:23 -0800
>>>> Sujet: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5  pending
>>>> À: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>
>>>>> I've pushed out a 3.8.15b5 to address an error in the 3.8.15b4 VM
>>>>> with the new browser plugin interface and firefox.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I added three new features. One is SqueakDebug setting in the VM  
>>>>> and
>>>>> browser plugin to enable you to print some
>>>>> diagnostics messages for the browser interface and module loading,
>>>>> I'll add more message in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> The second is a SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent flag that is used to  
>>>>> quit
>>>>> the VM immediately if we get the quit event, which happens
>>>>> when a user logs out. Likely this is the wrong choice, still for
>>>>> people doing vertical apps you need someone to prevent the VM from
>>>>> cancelling the logout process.  MIT's Scratch will use this  
>>>>> feature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally I altered the logic when we look at the edit menu 'Quit do
>>>>> not save' If the application has used the VM's builtin feature
>>>>> to modify the mac menus then they might have changed the menu item
>>>>> from 'Quit do not save' to perform Foobar.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.8.15b5
>>>>> squeakBrowser-info.plist add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug  
>>>>> msgs, (0)
>>>>> no debug msgs
>>>>>
>>>>> npsqueak.c streamline context usage a bit, make local var  
>>>>> versus
>>>>> on structure
>>>>> add logic to print msgs based on info.plist
>>>>>
>>>>> sqMacMain.c Add SqueakDebug parm (1) debug msgs, (0) no debug
>>>>> msgs
>>>>> debug messages for browser interface, and module loading
>>>>> Add SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent, true if we should quit
>>>>> immediately if
>>>>> operating system sends us quit msg, as a result of logout.
>>>>> Normally false.
>>>>>
>>>>> sqMacUIAppleEvents.c If you logout we get a quit apple event  
>>>>> msg,
>>>>> normally we ignore,
>>>>> unless SqueakQuitOnQuitAppleEvent is set.
>>>>>
>>>>> sqMacUIEventsUniversal.c  If the user picks edit menu, item one,
>>>>> actually check to see if
>>>>> the string is "Quit do not save", if so then quit, otherwise
>>>>> pass revised menu
>>>>> choice to Smalltalk.
>>>>>
>>>>> sqMacUnixExternalPrims.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sqMacWindowUniversal.c Look to SqueakDebug for msg printing,  
>>>>> mind
>>>>> file does not print any msgs yet
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ===================================================================
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ===
>>>>> ===
>>>>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>>>>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>>>>> ===================================================================
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ===
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> =====================================================================
>>> ===
>>> ===
>>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>>> =====================================================================
>>> ===
>>> ===
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

>
> #ifndef MSB_FIRST
>         #define RED_INDEX 0
>         #define GREEN_INDEX 1
>         #define BLUE_INDEX 2
>         #define ALPHA_INDEX 3
> #else
>         #define ALPHA_INDEX 0
>         #define BLUE_INDEX 1
>         #define GREEN_INDEX 2
>         #define RED_INDEX 3
> #endif

> Hi,
>
> The only reason why I suspect a VM problem is that Windows, OpenBSD  
> big endian, Linux little endian, Mac PPC and Mac Intel running the  
> PPC VM all get the same display.  The only one which is different  
> is the Mac Intel running the universal binary.
>
> Is it possible that the problem is in  Squeak3D/b3dTypes.h?
>
> /* An ugly hack but I can't find the global defs in CodeWarrior on  
> the Mac */
> #ifndef LSB_FIRST
>         #define MSB_FIRST
> #endif

>
>On Mar 28, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The only reason why I suspect a VM problem is that Windows, OpenBSD  
>> big endian, Linux little endian, Mac PPC and Mac Intel running the  
>> PPC VM all get the same display.  The only one which is different  
>> is the Mac Intel running the universal binary.
>>
>> Is it possible that the problem is in  Squeak3D/b3dTypes.h?
>>
>> /* An ugly hack but I can't find the global defs in CodeWarrior on  
>> the Mac */
>> #ifndef LSB_FIRST
>>         #define MSB_FIRST
>> #endif
>
>
>Ah, well an interesting question then would be what is LSB_FIRST, who  
>defines it, where does it come from, what value should it have?
>Why does it work on other platform compiles, and yes CodeWarrior  
>likely has been dead 10 years now...  (well maybe less)
>
>
>--
>========================================================================
>===
>John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>========================================================================
>===
>
>
>

>Ok, in my idisk experimental folder try
>
>Squeak 3.8.16beta5U.app
>
>That contains the recompiled macintel vm that should show colors  
>properly for Squeak3D surfaces
>
>On Mar 29, 2007, at 2:37 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
>
>> -DLSB_FIRST=1
>
>--
>========================================================================
>===
>John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>========================================================================
>===
>
>
>

> Thank you Thank you Thank you!
>
> It works perfectly.
>
> Just out of interest, was my guess correct or was it something  
> completely unrelated?
>
> Thanks!
>
> cheers
>
> bruce
>
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De: John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:48 -0700
> Sujet: Re: Mac Carbon VM 3.8.15b5  pending
> À: "Bruce O'Neel" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-
> [hidden email]>
>
>> Ok, in my idisk experimental folder try
>>
>> Squeak 3.8.16beta5U.app
>>
>> That contains the recompiled macintel vm that should show colors
>> properly for Squeak3D surfaces
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2007, at 2:37 AM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:
>>
>>> -DLSB_FIRST=1
>>
>> --
>> =====================================================================
>> ===
>> ===
>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
>> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>> =====================================================================
>> ===
>> ===
>>
>>
>>