Mac OS X... proper installation?

> Hi,
>
> I'm new to smalltalk/squeak.  Trying to learn seaside.  I want to use the
> web development image but i can't seem to get it to work.  I have mac os x
> leopard on macbook pro.  I have tried the following each with failure:
>
> * I installed squeak via darwin ports but it just hangs if i try to load the
> web image using the following
> squeak -vm-display-Quartz sq3webdev.image
>
> *I downloaded and installed the MacOSX universal app from squeak homepage.
>  It will load the web dev image but has visual errors i'm guessing from
> wrong version incompatibilities??  there are text artifacts and errors
> throughout
>
> So my question is how does everyone else install on mac os x.

> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Aaron Broad <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm new to smalltalk/squeak.  Trying to learn seaside.  I want to use the
>> web development image but i can't seem to get it to work.  I have mac os x
>> leopard on macbook pro.  I have tried the following each with failure:
>>
>> * I installed squeak via darwin ports but it just hangs if i try to load the
>> web image using the following
>> squeak -vm-display-Quartz sq3webdev.image
>>
>> *I downloaded and installed the MacOSX universal app from squeak homepage.
>>  It will load the web dev image but has visual errors i'm guessing from
>> wrong version incompatibilities??  there are text artifacts and errors
>> throughout
>>
>> So my question is how does everyone else install on mac os x.
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
>
> I have the same computer / OS combination. I am using the squeak-dev
> based image, but based on version 3.9.1 without problems. I have just
> downloaded and started sq3.10-7159web08.05.2 and I see a small visual
> problem (a progress bar looks a bit strange).
>
> Is that what you mean? Can you tell me how I can reproduce more of
> these visual errors?
>
> In the mean time it might be hepful to use one of the 3.9.1 based
> images, however you won't get look enhancements out of the box.
>
> Also, about the todo app that you were working on: you can probably
> recover it from the changes file, see "How can I recover my work if a
> crash has occurred?" in
>  http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2168
>
> Cheers
>
> Matthias
>

> ... just one mor ething about recovering the Todo app: you'll want to
> open the .changes file that was originally produced in the Seaside One
> Click experience image. That will be inside the App folder (Control
> click on the One Click Application, and select "Show folder
> contents"). You then copy it somewhere, e.g. onto your desktop. Then
> open it from another, stable image, like this:
>
> ChangeList browseFile: 'ChangesOfChangeSetOrStFileName'
>
> Then proceed as indicated in the swiki page. Alternatively you can
> open the changes file in a file list (get that form the Squeak world
> menu) and browse it.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Matthias
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Matthias Berth
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Aaron Broad  
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm new to smalltalk/squeak.  Trying to learn seaside.  I want to  
>>> use the
>>> web development image but i can't seem to get it to work.  I have  
>>> mac os x
>>> leopard on macbook pro.  I have tried the following each with  
>>> failure:
>>>
>>> * I installed squeak via darwin ports but it just hangs if i try  
>>> to load the
>>> web image using the following
>>> squeak -vm-display-Quartz sq3webdev.image
>>>
>>> *I downloaded and installed the MacOSX universal app from squeak  
>>> homepage.
>>> It will load the web dev image but has visual errors i'm guessing  
>>> from
>>> wrong version incompatibilities??  there are text artifacts and  
>>> errors
>>> throughout
>>>
>>> So my question is how does everyone else install on mac os x.
>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>>
>> I have the same computer / OS combination. I am using the squeak-dev
>> based image, but based on version 3.9.1 without problems. I have just
>> downloaded and started sq3.10-7159web08.05.2 and I see a small visual
>> problem (a progress bar looks a bit strange).
>>
>> Is that what you mean? Can you tell me how I can reproduce more of
>> these visual errors?
>>
>> In the mean time it might be hepful to use one of the 3.9.1 based
>> images, however you won't get look enhancements out of the box.
>>
>> Also, about the todo app that you were working on: you can probably
>> recover it from the changes file, see "How can I recover my work if a
>> crash has occurred?" in
>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2168
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Matthias
>>
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> Thanks.  I have those two images.  What do you use for an executable though?
>
> thanks,
> Aaron
>
> On 22-May-08, at 8:24 AM, Matthias Berth wrote:
>
>> ... just one mor ething about recovering the Todo app: you'll want to
>> open the .changes file that was originally produced in the Seaside One
>> Click experience image. That will be inside the App folder (Control
>> click on the One Click Application, and select "Show folder
>> contents"). You then copy it somewhere, e.g. onto your desktop. Then
>> open it from another, stable image, like this:
>>
>> ChangeList browseFile: 'ChangesOfChangeSetOrStFileName'
>>
>> Then proceed as indicated in the swiki page. Alternatively you can
>> open the changes file in a file list (get that form the Squeak world
>> menu) and browse it.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Matthias Berth
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Aaron Broad <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm new to smalltalk/squeak.  Trying to learn seaside.  I want to use
>>>> the
>>>> web development image but i can't seem to get it to work.  I have mac os
>>>> x
>>>> leopard on macbook pro.  I have tried the following each with failure:
>>>>
>>>> * I installed squeak via darwin ports but it just hangs if i try to load
>>>> the
>>>> web image using the following
>>>> squeak -vm-display-Quartz sq3webdev.image
>>>>
>>>> *I downloaded and installed the MacOSX universal app from squeak
>>>> homepage.
>>>> It will load the web dev image but has visual errors i'm guessing from
>>>> wrong version incompatibilities??  there are text artifacts and errors
>>>> throughout
>>>>
>>>> So my question is how does everyone else install on mac os x.
>>>
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the same computer / OS combination. I am using the squeak-dev
>>> based image, but based on version 3.9.1 without problems. I have just
>>> downloaded and started sq3.10-7159web08.05.2 and I see a small visual
>>> problem (a progress bar looks a bit strange).
>>>
>>> Is that what you mean? Can you tell me how I can reproduce more of
>>> these visual errors?
>>>
>>> In the mean time it might be hepful to use one of the 3.9.1 based
>>> images, however you won't get look enhancements out of the box.
>>>
>>> Also, about the todo app that you were working on: you can probably
>>> recover it from the changes file, see "How can I recover my work if a
>>> crash has occurred?" in
>>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2168
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
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> The executable is called Squeak 3.8.18beta1U.app. I think I downloaded
> it via squeak.org.
>
> Matthias
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Aaron Broad <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>> Thanks.  I have those two images.  What do you use for an  
>> executable though?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Aaron
>>
>> On 22-May-08, at 8:24 AM, Matthias Berth wrote:
>>
>>> ... just one mor ething about recovering the Todo app: you'll want  
>>> to
>>> open the .changes file that was originally produced in the Seaside  
>>> One
>>> Click experience image. That will be inside the App folder (Control
>>> click on the One Click Application, and select "Show folder
>>> contents"). You then copy it somewhere, e.g. onto your desktop. Then
>>> open it from another, stable image, like this:
>>>
>>> ChangeList browseFile: 'ChangesOfChangeSetOrStFileName'
>>>
>>> Then proceed as indicated in the swiki page. Alternatively you can
>>> open the changes file in a file list (get that form the Squeak world
>>> menu) and browse it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Matthias Berth
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Aaron Broad <[hidden email]
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to smalltalk/squeak.  Trying to learn seaside.  I want  
>>>>> to use
>>>>> the
>>>>> web development image but i can't seem to get it to work.  I  
>>>>> have mac os
>>>>> x
>>>>> leopard on macbook pro.  I have tried the following each with  
>>>>> failure:
>>>>>
>>>>> * I installed squeak via darwin ports but it just hangs if i try  
>>>>> to load
>>>>> the
>>>>> web image using the following
>>>>> squeak -vm-display-Quartz sq3webdev.image
>>>>>
>>>>> *I downloaded and installed the MacOSX universal app from squeak
>>>>> homepage.
>>>>> It will load the web dev image but has visual errors i'm  
>>>>> guessing from
>>>>> wrong version incompatibilities??  there are text artifacts and  
>>>>> errors
>>>>> throughout
>>>>>
>>>>> So my question is how does everyone else install on mac os x.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have the same computer / OS combination. I am using the squeak-
>>>> dev
>>>> based image, but based on version 3.9.1 without problems. I have  
>>>> just
>>>> downloaded and started sq3.10-7159web08.05.2 and I see a small  
>>>> visual
>>>> problem (a progress bar looks a bit strange).
>>>>
>>>> Is that what you mean? Can you tell me how I can reproduce more of
>>>> these visual errors?
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time it might be hepful to use one of the 3.9.1 based
>>>> images, however you won't get look enhancements out of the box.
>>>>
>>>> Also, about the todo app that you were working on: you can probably
>>>> recover it from the changes file, see "How can I recover my work  
>>>> if a
>>>> crash has occurred?" in
>>>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2168
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Matthias
>>>>
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> Hi,
>
> I'm new to smalltalk/squeak.  Trying to learn seaside.  I want to  
> use the web development image but i can't seem to get it to work.  I  
> have mac os x leopard on macbook pro.  I have tried the following  
> each with failure:
>
> * I installed squeak via darwin ports but it just hangs if i try to  
> load the web image using the following
> squeak -vm-display-Quartz sq3webdev.image
>
> *I downloaded and installed the MacOSX universal app from squeak  
> homepage.  It will load the web dev image but has visual errors i'm  
> guessing from wrong version incompatibilities??  there are text  
> artifacts and errors throughout
>
> So my question is how does everyone else install on mac os x.  I'm a  
> beginner at squeak but not computer science/unix/etc.   I'm looking  
> to install it the proper way and in a way where i can choose which  
> image gets loaded at the start, because  I started learning seaside  
> with the oneclick installer but i messed up that image to the point  
> where it crashes 5 seconds after loading.  Unfortunately this is  
> halfway through the todoapp tutorial, so i have to start it over  
> when i do get it working.
>
> thanks,
> Aaron
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