Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick: event

>
> In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded,
> I added;
>
> SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt
>    "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements"
>    evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt.
>
> and
>
> SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event
>    self expandBoxHit
>
> I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be broken
> in this case. (header, no code)
>
> Travis
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> Travis Kay wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
>> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added this to
>> my image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is
>> typically expected from non-squeakers.
>
> Really? Most collapse/expand is either on the Min/Max icon (single
> click) or on the taskbar (single click).
> Are you referring to another click area?

>
>>
>> In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded,
>> I added;
>>
>> SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt
>>    "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements"
>>    evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt.
>>
>> and
>>
>> SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event
>>    self expandBoxHit
>>
>> I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be broken
>> in this case. (header, no code)
>>
>> Travis
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> Brad Fuller wrote:
>> Travis Kay wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
>>> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added this
>>> to my image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is
>>> typically expected from non-squeakers.
>>
>> Really? Most collapse/expand is either on the Min/Max icon (single
>> click) or on the taskbar (single click).
>> Are you referring to another click area?
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> I'm referring to the area I considered the title bar, its the top part
> of the window between close box and collapse /  expandBox iconic buttons.

> Travis Kay wrote:
> > Brad Fuller wrote:
> >> Travis Kay wrote:
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
> >>> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added this
> >>> to my image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is
> >>> typically expected from non-squeakers.
> >>
> >> Really? Most collapse/expand is either on the Min/Max icon (single
> >> click) or on the taskbar (single click).
> >> Are you referring to another click area?
> >
> > Hi Brad,
> >
> > I'm referring to the area I considered the title bar, its the top part
> > of the window between close box and collapse /  expandBox iconic buttons.
> ah.. yes.
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> Btw, is there a hotkey to close SystemWindow?
>
> On 11/10/2007, Brad Fuller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>> Travis Kay wrote:
>>    
>>> Brad Fuller wrote:
>>>      
>>>> Travis Kay wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
>>>>> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added this
>>>>> to my image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is
>>>>> typically expected from non-squeakers.
>>>>>          
>>>> Really? Most collapse/expand is either on the Min/Max icon (single
>>>> click) or on the taskbar (single click).
>>>> Are you referring to another click area?
>>>>        
>>> Hi Brad,
>>>
>>> I'm referring to the area I considered the title bar, its the top part
>>> of the window between close box and collapse /  expandBox iconic buttons.
>>>      
>> ah.. yes.
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>
>  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
> Sent: 11 October 2007 12:41 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick: event
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added this to my
> image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is typically
> expected from non-squeakers.
>
> In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded, I
> added;
>
> SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt
>     "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements"
>     evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt.
>
> and
>
> SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event
>     self expandBoxHit
>
> I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be broken in
> this case. (header, no code)
>
> Travis
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> I'll put that in the next release if you like. A few more fixes (Taskbars in
> projects) also, though been unable to upload to SqueakSource recently.
>
>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
>> Sent: 11 October 2007 12:41 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick: event
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
>> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added this to my
>> image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is typically
>> expected from non-squeakers.
>>
>> In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded, I
>> added;
>>
>> SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt
>>     "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements"
>>     evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt.
>>
>> and
>>
>> SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event
>>     self expandBoxHit
>>
>> I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be broken in
>> this case. (header, no code)
>>
>> Travis
>> _______________________________________________
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
>>    
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
> Sent: 12 October 2007 9:52 PM
> To: Squeak's User Interface
> Subject: Re: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick:
> event
>
>
> Gary,
>
> Sure that sounds good to me.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Travis
>
> Gary Chambers wrote:
> > I'll put that in the next release if you like. A few more fixes
> (Taskbars in
> > projects) also, though been unable to upload to SqueakSource recently.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email]
> >> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
> >> Sent: 11 October 2007 12:41 AM
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Subject: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick: event
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
> >> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added
> this to my
> >> image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is typically
> >> expected from non-squeakers.
> >>
> >> In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded, I
> >> added;
> >>
> >> SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt
> >>     "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements"
> >>     evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt.
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event
> >>     self expandBoxHit
> >>
> >> I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be
> broken in
> >> this case. (header, no code)
> >>
> >> Travis
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
> Sent: 12 October 2007 9:52 PM
> To: Squeak's User Interface
> Subject: Re: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick:
> event
>
>
> Gary,
>
> Sure that sounds good to me.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Travis
>
> Gary Chambers wrote:
> > I'll put that in the next release if you like. A few more fixes
> (Taskbars in
> > projects) also, though been unable to upload to SqueakSource recently.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email]
> >> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
> >> Sent: 11 October 2007 12:41 AM
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Subject: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick: event
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
> >> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added
> this to my
> >> image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is typically
> >> expected from non-squeakers.
> >>
> >> In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded, I
> >> added;
> >>
> >> SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt
> >>     "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements"
> >>     evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt.
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event
> >>     self expandBoxHit
> >>
> >> I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be
> broken in
> >> this case. (header, no code)
> >>
> >> Travis
> >> _______________________________________________
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Chambers
> Sent: 12 October 2007 10:47 PM
> To: Squeak's User Interface
> Subject: RE: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick:
> event
>
>
> Thanks Travis, works a treat.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
> > Sent: 12 October 2007 9:52 PM
> > To: Squeak's User Interface
> > Subject: Re: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick:
> > event
> >
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > Sure that sounds good to me.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Travis
> >
> > Gary Chambers wrote:
> > > I'll put that in the next release if you like. A few more fixes
> > (Taskbars in
> > > projects) also, though been unable to upload to SqueakSource recently.
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [hidden email]
> > >> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
> > >> Sent: 11 October 2007 12:41 AM
> > >> To: [hidden email]
> > >> Subject: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with
> doubleClick: event
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello All,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
> > >> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added
> > this to my
> > >> image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is typically
> > >> expected from non-squeakers.
> > >>
> > >> In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with
> Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded, I
> > >> added;
> > >>
> > >> SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt
> > >>     "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements"
> > >>     evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt.
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event
> > >>     self expandBoxHit
> > >>
> > >> I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be
> > broken in
> > >> this case. (header, no code)
> > >>
> > >> Travis
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
> > >>
> > >
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> > >
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> After incorporating the "double-click-title-bar" thing I was wondering if
> these kind of events/actions should be themed too...
>
> Easy enough to do (think, a particular theme might "shade" the window
> instead, or minimize, or whatever.
>
> In generally it would mean that the feel could be themed along with the
> look. Does anyone think that the "feel" part should be broken out for a
> mix-and-match approach, or would that be too confusing?
>
>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Chambers
>> Sent: 12 October 2007 10:47 PM
>> To: Squeak's User Interface
>> Subject: RE: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick:
>> event
>>
>>
>> Thanks Travis, works a treat.
>>
>>    
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
>>> Sent: 12 October 2007 9:52 PM
>>> To: Squeak's User Interface
>>> Subject: Re: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick:
>>> event
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> Sure that sounds good to me.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>> Gary Chambers wrote:
>>>      
>>>> I'll put that in the next release if you like. A few more fixes
>>>>        
>>> (Taskbars in
>>>      
>>>> projects) also, though been unable to upload to SqueakSource recently.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [hidden email]
>>>>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Travis Kay
>>>>> Sent: 11 October 2007 12:41 AM
>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>> Subject: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with
>>>>>          
>> doubleClick: event
>>    
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone on the UI team given thought to implementing SystemWindow
>>>>> maximizing and restoring upon doubleClick: event ? I've added
>>>>>          
>>> this to my
>>>      
>>>>> image and find it a rather handy. This type of behavior is typically
>>>>> expected from non-squeakers.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my Squeak 3.9 7067 image with
>>>>>          
>> Pinesoft-Widgets-gvc.242.mcz loaded, I
>>    
>>>>> added;
>>>>>
>>>>> SystemWindow>>mouseDown: evt
>>>>>     "first statement before Pinesoft enhancements"
>>>>>     evt hand waitForClicksOrDrag: self event: evt.
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> SystemWindow>>doubleClick: event
>>>>>     self expandBoxHit
>>>>>
>>>>> I would have attached a change set but my file out seems to be
>>>>>          
>>> broken in
>>>      
>>>>> this case. (header, no code)
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> UI mailing list
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>>>>>
>>>>>          
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Hans-Martin
> Mosner
> Sent: 14 October 2007 8:23 PM
> To: Squeak's User Interface
> Subject: Re: [UI] Maximizing and Restoring Windows with doubleClick:
> event
>
>
> Gary Chambers schrieb:
> > After incorporating the "double-click-title-bar" thing I was
> wondering if
> > these kind of events/actions should be themed too...
> >
> > Easy enough to do (think, a particular theme might "shade" the window
> > instead, or minimize, or whatever.
> >
> > In generally it would mean that the feel could be themed along with the
> > look. Does anyone think that the "feel" part should be broken out for a
> > mix-and-match approach, or would that be too confusing?
> It should definitely be broken out. That would allow us to have feels
> which are consistent with user's expectations on their native platforms,
> while still being able to switch between different looks. For example,
> standard keyboard binding conventions vary between the Windows world
> (where ctrl- is often used) and the Mac world (where the default command
> key is the apple or clover key which maps to the Alt key on PC keyboards).
> With every major release of their operating systems Microsoft and Apple
> do essentially the same: Looks may be changed radically or subtly, but
> feel is much more stable and evolves in smaller steps. Apparently people
> can more easily adjust to new looks than to new interface behaviors.
> Squeak should recognize this observation and provide users with their
> expected behaviors where possible.
>
> Other possible feel-dependent behaviors could be:
> - text and list selection (Windows vs Rest-of-World)
> - mouse button bindings (including the paste via middle mouse button
> found in X)
> - pop-up menu behavior (I kinda liked the old ST-80 pop up menus with
> their selection memory - I'm probably the only one who would
> admit that...)
> - keyboard focus behavior is probably orthogonal to other feel elements,
> but belongs into this category, too.
>
> It might be helpful to view a "theme" as a composition of look and feel
> elements. That way, we could have predefined "tinymellow", "fruit" and
> "kobold" themes (to avoid trademark infringements :-) ) and user-defined
> combinations of looks and feels (for example, a secret GNU admirer in a
> microsoft workplace might choose a "kobold" look with the "tinymellow"
> feel.)
>
> Cheers,
> Hans-Martin
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