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Meaning behind SqueakFoundation Logo

Brad Fuller-3
What is the meaning behind the 3 globes that orbit the smalltalk logo in
Stéphane's logo. Has it been proposed to approve this logo for squeak
promotion? Or is it only for the SqueakFoundation? Or?


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RE: Meaning behind SqueakFoundation Logo

Sebastian Sastre-2
Dear Brad, All,

        the real question is if the logo should have meaning only for people
familiar to smalltlak or to anyone. Or to a minimun group like IT people.

        I think that the logo [ | ] has meaning only for those who love
smalltalk syntax and I think that converting that into the logo of the whole
system is to give too much value to a too much small part of Smalltalk and
because of that it fails in representing the whole Smalltalk metaphore,

        cheers,

Sebastian


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What is the meaning behind the 3 globes that orbit the smalltalk logo in
Stéphane's logo. Has it been proposed to approve this logo for squeak
promotion? Or is it only for the SqueakFoundation? Or?


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Re: Meaning behind SqueakFoundation Logo

timrowledge
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On 20-Jan-07, at 9:33 AM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> What is the meaning behind the 3 globes that orbit the smalltalk  
> logo in
> Stéphane's logo. Has it been proposed to approve this logo for squeak
> promotion? Or is it only for the SqueakFoundation? Or?

It hasn't been proposed or discussed at all so far as I recall. It's  
just something Stef put on the page he made. Personally I favour the  
foundation using the good old squeaky mouse logo; particularly since  
it would be a bit of a pain to have a logo different to the one one  
the foundation supporter badges I've just ordered....


tim
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Re: Meaning behind SqueakFoundation Logo

stephane ducasse
Hi tim

just that I know, what is the format that they require because I  
always loved your pin. But I would like to know
what is the underlying process. What is the company doing it.

I spent quite some times doing some of the merchandising for squeak  
(with the mouse logo)
and I can give the graffle files if people are interested.

Stef

On 20 janv. 07, at 19:11, tim Rowledge wrote:

>
> On 20-Jan-07, at 9:33 AM, Brad Fuller wrote:
>
>> What is the meaning behind the 3 globes that orbit the smalltalk  
>> logo in
>> Stéphane's logo. Has it been proposed to approve this logo for squeak
>> promotion? Or is it only for the SqueakFoundation? Or?
>
> It hasn't been proposed or discussed at all so far as I recall.  
> It's just something Stef put on the page he made. Personally I  
> favour the foundation using the good old squeaky mouse logo;  
> particularly since it would be a bit of a pain to have a logo  
> different to the one one the foundation supporter badges I've just  
> ordered....
>
>
> tim
> --
> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> Strange OpCodes: BIB: Branch If Branch if branch...
>
>
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Re: Meaning behind SqueakFoundation Logo

stephane ducasse
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My idea was that the foundation should promote all the squeak related  
projects:
Smallland, tweak, croquet, seaside.... It should work as a core. So  
the foundation is the core and around
you have all the projects.

But if you want to do something with it, it is free. At the end if  
nobody does anything
I will use it for what I want.

(Also one idea was that having a logo that looks like a cool one and  
not a kid stuff was important for me
I always thought about the people trying to sell project in squeak...  
and seeing the faces of their clients.
Somehow this is too bad that the code name of etoy was taken for the  
complete system.

Even if I like the pin with the mouse (yes I have an old one thanks  
to john I guess) and they were cool.

> What is the meaning behind the 3 globes that orbit the smalltalk  
> logo in
> Stéphane's logo. Has it been proposed to approve this logo for squeak
> promotion? Or is it only for the SqueakFoundation? Or?
>
>
> --
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Re: Meaning behind SqueakFoundation Logo

Brad Fuller-3
stephane ducasse wrote:
> My idea was that the foundation should promote all the squeak related
> projects:
> Smallland, tweak, croquet, seaside.... It should work as a core. So the
> foundation is the core and around
> you have all the projects.
>
> But if you want to do something with it, it is free. At the end if
> nobody does anything
> I will use it for what I want.


Thanks. I just always wondered what the circles/globes meant.

No, I don't want to do anything with it. Just wondered about the design
concept

>
> (Also one idea was that having a logo that looks like a cool one and not
> a kid stuff was important for me
> I always thought about the people trying to sell project in squeak...
> and seeing the faces of their clients.


I like the little mouse. But, I also understand that it might not be
what people want to present to their client or boss.


> Somehow this is too bad that the code name of etoy was taken for the
> complete system.
>
> Even if I like the pin with the mouse (yes I have an old one thanks to
> john I guess) and they were cool.

It seems that there are 4 images that are consistent with squeak:

1: the colorful smalltalk balloon - not a logo, of course.
2: The mouse - used as a logo
3: The SqueakFoundation logo (I don't know if you named it that)
4: the new smalltalk logo [|]

It'd be nice if there was a way to incorporate them all into one that
could represent the creativeness/playfulness of the mouse, the history
and  "the escape from the ivory tower" feeling of the balloon and the
contemporary image of the new smalltalk [|].



>
>> What is the meaning behind the 3 globes that orbit the smalltalk logo in
>> Stéphane's logo. Has it been proposed to approve this logo for squeak
>> promotion? Or is it only for the SqueakFoundation? Or?
>>
>>
>> --brad fuller
>> www.bradfuller.com
>>
>>
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>
>


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Re: Meaning behind SqueakFoundation Logo

Gary Fisher-3
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Consider this an additional vote in favor of "Squeaky Mouse."  It's
distinctive, simple, meaningful and, like most of Squeak itself, doesn't
look "corporate."  Certainly other graphical representations are fine for
various uses, from Kim and B.J.'s playful 3D Squeakland version to the
rather astringent [|] discussed here recently, but I believe Squeaky is and
should remain the "official" logo.

FWIW

Gary


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On 20-Jan-07, at 9:33 AM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> What is the meaning behind the 3 globes that orbit the smalltalk
> logo in
> Stéphane's logo. Has it been proposed to approve this logo for squeak
> promotion? Or is it only for the SqueakFoundation? Or?

It hasn't been proposed or discussed at all so far as I recall. It's
just something Stef put on the page he made. Personally I favour the
foundation using the good old squeaky mouse logo; particularly since
it would be a bit of a pain to have a logo different to the one one
the foundation supporter badges I've just ordered....


tim
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