Alexandre,
Last night I decided that I am going to create an OmniBrowser version of MetacelloBrowser ... I am so happy with the functionality that I need to be able to use it in GLASS and that means OB ... With that said, I don't think it will actually be that much work ... to this point in time there's nothing really fancy done that OB can't do ... The hard work is actually in the carving up of the packages ... So I've just started some recategorization while I wait for builds/test runs to complete, but if you've got some pending changes let me know so that I can hold off on the refactoring ... right now I'm just changing the categories and won't do any actual package monky business until I hear from you... Dale |
There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, especially managing the comments, the documentation.
But I have a number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't it? Cheers, Alexandre On 3 Mar 2011, at 15:06, Dale Henrichs wrote: > Alexandre, > > Last night I decided that I am going to create an OmniBrowser version of MetacelloBrowser ... I am so happy with the functionality that I need to be able to use it in GLASS and that means OB ... > > With that said, I don't think it will actually be that much work ... to this point in time there's nothing really fancy done that OB can't do ... > > The hard work is actually in the carving up of the packages ... > > So I've just started some recategorization while I wait for builds/test runs to complete, but if you've got some pending changes let me know so that I can hold off on the refactoring ... right now I'm just changing the categories and won't do any actual package monky business until I hear from you... > > Dale > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. |
On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, > especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a > number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make > MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the > MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't > it? > Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current image state is what I really want/need... I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done anything that is too restrictive ... Dale |
Cool!
All the tests must be kept green :-) Alexandre On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dale Henrichs wrote: > On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, >> especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a >> number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make >> MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the >> MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't >> it? >> > > Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level > of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. > Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using > the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the > MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current > image state is what I really want/need... > > I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can > be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done > anything that is too restrictive ... > > Dale > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. |
Finished repackaging ... and it looks like things are working ... the baseline is not quite organized the way that I want..
If OB is installed in your image, then the ob browser is installed too. open it with: MBConfigurationBrowser open still rough spots in ob but the MBCommand structure is shared ... One test started failing, but I'm not sure that it could/should have been passing in the first place:) .. in pre-repackaged image the test passes, but the expression that is under test doesn't throw an error, so as far as I can tell the mystery is how the test passed in the past... Dale On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Cool! > All the tests must be kept green :-) > > Alexandre > > On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dale Henrichs wrote: > >> On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, >>> especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a >>> number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make >>> MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the >>> MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't >>> it? >>> >> >> Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level >> of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. >> Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using >> the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the >> MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current >> image state is what I really want/need... >> >> I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can >> be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done >> anything that is too restrictive ... >> >> Dale >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > |
ThemeIcons>>metacelloIcon is missing
I cannot open the world menu anymore. Alexandre On 4 Mar 2011, at 13:05, Dale Henrichs wrote: > Finished repackaging ... and it looks like things are working ... the baseline is not quite organized the way that I want.. > > If OB is installed in your image, then the ob browser is installed too. open it with: > > MBConfigurationBrowser open > > still rough spots in ob but the MBCommand structure is shared ... > > One test started failing, but I'm not sure that it could/should have been passing in the first place:) .. in pre-repackaged image the test passes, but the expression that is under test doesn't throw an error, so as far as I can tell the mystery is how the test passed in the past... > > Dale > > On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Cool! >> All the tests must be kept green :-) >> >> Alexandre >> >> On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dale Henrichs wrote: >> >>> On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, >>>> especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a >>>> number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make >>>> MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the >>>> MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't >>>> it? >>>> >>> >>> Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level >>> of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. >>> Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using >>> the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the >>> MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current >>> image state is what I really want/need... >>> >>> I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can >>> be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done >>> anything that is too restrictive ... >>> >>> Dale >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. |
Ah okay ... casualties of the repackaging ... I'll take a look...
Dale On 03/04/2011 09:13 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > ThemeIcons>>metacelloIcon is missing > > I cannot open the world menu anymore. > > Alexandre > > > On 4 Mar 2011, at 13:05, Dale Henrichs wrote: > >> Finished repackaging ... and it looks like things are working ... the baseline is not quite organized the way that I want.. >> >> If OB is installed in your image, then the ob browser is installed too. open it with: >> >> MBConfigurationBrowser open >> >> still rough spots in ob but the MBCommand structure is shared ... >> >> One test started failing, but I'm not sure that it could/should have been passing in the first place:) .. in pre-repackaged image the test passes, but the expression that is under test doesn't throw an error, so as far as I can tell the mystery is how the test passed in the past... >> >> Dale >> >> On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Cool! >>> All the tests must be kept green :-) >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>> >>>> On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, >>>>> especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a >>>>> number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make >>>>> MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the >>>>> MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't >>>>> it? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level >>>> of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. >>>> Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using >>>> the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the >>>> MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current >>>> image state is what I really want/need... >>>> >>>> I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can >>>> be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done >>>> anything that is too restrictive ... >>>> >>>> Dale >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > |
Ok. I will go home soon and probably will not touch the computer until Saturday evening. (For the ones who knows him Eric Tanter is getting married)
Alexandre On 4 Mar 2011, at 14:30, Dale Henrichs wrote: > Ah okay ... casualties of the repackaging ... I'll take a look... > > Dale > > On 03/04/2011 09:13 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> ThemeIcons>>metacelloIcon is missing >> >> I cannot open the world menu anymore. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 4 Mar 2011, at 13:05, Dale Henrichs wrote: >> >>> Finished repackaging ... and it looks like things are working ... the baseline is not quite organized the way that I want.. >>> >>> If OB is installed in your image, then the ob browser is installed too. open it with: >>> >>> MBConfigurationBrowser open >>> >>> still rough spots in ob but the MBCommand structure is shared ... >>> >>> One test started failing, but I'm not sure that it could/should have been passing in the first place:) .. in pre-repackaged image the test passes, but the expression that is under test doesn't throw an error, so as far as I can tell the mystery is how the test passed in the past... >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> >>>> Cool! >>>> All the tests must be kept green :-) >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, >>>>>> especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a >>>>>> number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make >>>>>> MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the >>>>>> MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't >>>>>> it? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level >>>>> of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. >>>>> Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using >>>>> the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the >>>>> MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current >>>>> image state is what I really want/need... >>>>> >>>>> I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can >>>>> be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done >>>>> anything that is too restrictive ... >>>>> >>>>> Dale >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. |
I did fix the World menu thing ... My wife will be gone all day Saturday
and one of our dogs is in heat, so I won't have much "free/fun" time Saturday:).... Have a fun weekend Dale On 03/04/2011 09:43 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Ok. I will go home soon and probably will not touch the computer until Saturday evening. (For the ones who knows him Eric Tanter is getting married) > > Alexandre > > > On 4 Mar 2011, at 14:30, Dale Henrichs wrote: > >> Ah okay ... casualties of the repackaging ... I'll take a look... >> >> Dale >> >> On 03/04/2011 09:13 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> ThemeIcons>>metacelloIcon is missing >>> >>> I cannot open the world menu anymore. >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 4 Mar 2011, at 13:05, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>> >>>> Finished repackaging ... and it looks like things are working ... the baseline is not quite organized the way that I want.. >>>> >>>> If OB is installed in your image, then the ob browser is installed too. open it with: >>>> >>>> MBConfigurationBrowser open >>>> >>>> still rough spots in ob but the MBCommand structure is shared ... >>>> >>>> One test started failing, but I'm not sure that it could/should have been passing in the first place:) .. in pre-repackaged image the test passes, but the expression that is under test doesn't throw an error, so as far as I can tell the mystery is how the test passed in the past... >>>> >>>> Dale >>>> >>>> On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cool! >>>>> All the tests must be kept green :-) >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>>> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, >>>>>>> especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a >>>>>>> number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make >>>>>>> MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the >>>>>>> MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't >>>>>>> it? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level >>>>>> of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. >>>>>> Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using >>>>>> the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the >>>>>> MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current >>>>>> image state is what I really want/need... >>>>>> >>>>>> I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can >>>>>> be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done >>>>>> anything that is too restrictive ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Dale >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > |
I tried to fix the last yellow test. But I get stuck.
In the last version: AssertionException is now raised when we run the test. This is bad, but it would be nice to have the check working properly. But is there a way to check if a version is a baseline or not? Cheers, Alexandre On 4 Mar 2011, at 15:08, Dale Henrichs wrote: > I did fix the World menu thing ... My wife will be gone all day Saturday and one of our dogs is in heat, so I won't have much "free/fun" time Saturday:).... Have a fun weekend > > Dale > > On 03/04/2011 09:43 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Ok. I will go home soon and probably will not touch the computer until Saturday evening. (For the ones who knows him Eric Tanter is getting married) >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 4 Mar 2011, at 14:30, Dale Henrichs wrote: >> >>> Ah okay ... casualties of the repackaging ... I'll take a look... >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> On 03/04/2011 09:13 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>> ThemeIcons>>metacelloIcon is missing >>>> >>>> I cannot open the world menu anymore. >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 Mar 2011, at 13:05, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>>> >>>>> Finished repackaging ... and it looks like things are working ... the baseline is not quite organized the way that I want.. >>>>> >>>>> If OB is installed in your image, then the ob browser is installed too. open it with: >>>>> >>>>> MBConfigurationBrowser open >>>>> >>>>> still rough spots in ob but the MBCommand structure is shared ... >>>>> >>>>> One test started failing, but I'm not sure that it could/should have been passing in the first place:) .. in pre-repackaged image the test passes, but the expression that is under test doesn't throw an error, so as far as I can tell the mystery is how the test passed in the past... >>>>> >>>>> Dale >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Cool! >>>>>> All the tests must be kept green :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>>>> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, >>>>>>>> especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a >>>>>>>> number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make >>>>>>>> MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the >>>>>>>> MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't >>>>>>>> it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level >>>>>>> of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. >>>>>>> Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using >>>>>>> the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the >>>>>>> MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current >>>>>>> image state is what I really want/need... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can >>>>>>> be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done >>>>>>> anything that is too restrictive ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dale >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. |
Alexandre,
I don't think I like embedding asserts in the model code .... at least the ones that do class checks ... that's just not object oriented and makes for brittle code when one is trying to extend the system ... I've been able to use MBCommand in place of OBCommand in the OB structure, but if OB had done class asserts I would be forced to change OB to something that is perfectly legal ... Personally I don't like type checking ... if the object responds to the messages correctly then if should be "allowed to play" I do take advantage of this quite a bit ... I do think I understand why you are doing this, but I would prefer that it not be done by doing class checking ... BaselineVersions are _constructed_ correctly because the code that builds them extracts the baselines from the version, but if I wanted to have a non-baseline version masquerade as a baseline and it satisfied the API, I don't see any reason it shouldn't be allowed to work .. I would that these types of tests should be done with fabricated configurations (I know it is a real pain to do it this way and it takes a long time to run the tests), but the types of things we should be worried about is not whether sometime tries to use a Dictionary when a version is expected, but to construct sets of configurations to the model, then validate that the model is constructed correctly ... so under controlled circumstances the tests can and should do class type verification that the model has been constructed correctly, but that checking is in the tests, not the model ... Dale On 03/04/2011 10:35 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > I tried to fix the last yellow test. But I get stuck. > In the last version: > AssertionException is now raised when we run the test. This is bad, but it would be nice to have the check working properly. > > But is there a way to check if a version is a baseline or not? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > On 4 Mar 2011, at 15:08, Dale Henrichs wrote: > >> I did fix the World menu thing ... My wife will be gone all day Saturday and one of our dogs is in heat, so I won't have much "free/fun" time Saturday:).... Have a fun weekend >> >> Dale >> >> On 03/04/2011 09:43 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> Ok. I will go home soon and probably will not touch the computer until Saturday evening. (For the ones who knows him Eric Tanter is getting married) >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 4 Mar 2011, at 14:30, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>> >>>> Ah okay ... casualties of the repackaging ... I'll take a look... >>>> >>>> Dale >>>> >>>> On 03/04/2011 09:13 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> ThemeIcons>>metacelloIcon is missing >>>>> >>>>> I cannot open the world menu anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Alexandre >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Mar 2011, at 13:05, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Finished repackaging ... and it looks like things are working ... the baseline is not quite organized the way that I want.. >>>>>> >>>>>> If OB is installed in your image, then the ob browser is installed too. open it with: >>>>>> >>>>>> MBConfigurationBrowser open >>>>>> >>>>>> still rough spots in ob but the MBCommand structure is shared ... >>>>>> >>>>>> One test started failing, but I'm not sure that it could/should have been passing in the first place:) .. in pre-repackaged image the test passes, but the expression that is under test doesn't throw an error, so as far as I can tell the mystery is how the test passed in the past... >>>>>> >>>>>> Dale >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Cool! >>>>>>> All the tests must be kept green :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 16:04, Dale Henrichs wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 03/03/2011 10:59 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>>>>> There is a number of things I would like to improve in the browser, >>>>>>>>> especially managing the comments, the documentation. But I have a >>>>>>>>> number of burning things. So, do your refactoring. Maybe you can make >>>>>>>>> MBCommand polymorph to a OBCommand. This means that you can plug the >>>>>>>>> MBCommand into OB. That would be a nice way to save your time isn't >>>>>>>>> it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, I agree that there are more things to be done, but I want the level >>>>>>>> of functionality that's there right now to be usable in GemStone. >>>>>>>> Yesterday I made changes that allow me to run the MetacelloBrowser using >>>>>>>> the gemstone attributes so I can view the configs with the >>>>>>>> MetacelloBrowser, but the information that's relative to the current >>>>>>>> image state is what I really want/need... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I plant to do exactly that ... Ideally all of the commands and menus can >>>>>>>> be managed in a GUI-independent manner and so far we haven't done >>>>>>>> anything that is too restrictive ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dale >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > |
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