Dear Squeakers,
Not much Squeak related ones between GSoC ideas, which are slowly coming, 14 so far, but this is way below the 30+ in previous years. So, stretch your brain, come with some more ideas, which will be interesting for potential students and of course useful for our community. Students you are again welcome to propose such idea by your own. One student idea for now! Ideas so far: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/ideas To propose an idea just respond to this post by fulfilling this idea template: Title: Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) Possible mentor: (if already known) Possible second mentor: (if already known) Description Technical Details Benefits to the Student Benefits to the Community Best regards Serge and Janko, your this year GSoC admins -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si |
If we don't submit anything, we don't get to complain that ESUG didn't select Squeak projects ;) So please, send your ideas to Janko.
- Bert - On 2013-03-26, at 16:18, Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> wrote: > Dear Squeakers, > > Not much Squeak related ones between GSoC ideas, which are slowly > coming, 14 so far, but this is way below the 30+ in previous years. So, > stretch your brain, come with some more ideas, which will be interesting > for potential students and of course useful for our community. Students > you are again welcome to propose such idea by your own. One student idea > for now! > > Ideas so far: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/ideas > > To propose an idea just respond to this post by fulfilling this idea > template: > > Title: > > Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) > > Possible mentor: (if already known) > > Possible second mentor: (if already known) > > Description > > Technical Details > > Benefits to the Student > > Benefits to the Community > > Best regards > Serge and Janko, > your this year GSoC admins > > > -- > Janko Mivšek > Aida/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > |
Bert, just to be clear, ESUG is not selecting the projects, mentors do!
Also Smalltalk GSoC is just under the ESUG umbrella, therefore independent of ESUG. But you are right, if you stay passive, others will decide about your destiny. So, propose the projects, volunteer as mentors, encourage students, only this way you'll influence the Smalltalk future your way. Best regards Janko Dne 26. 03. 2013 16:31, piše Bert Freudenberg: > If we don't submit anything, we don't get to complain that ESUG didn't select Squeak projects ;) So please, send your ideas to Janko. > > - Bert - > > On 2013-03-26, at 16:18, Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Dear Squeakers, >> >> Not much Squeak related ones between GSoC ideas, which are slowly >> coming, 14 so far, but this is way below the 30+ in previous years. So, >> stretch your brain, come with some more ideas, which will be interesting >> for potential students and of course useful for our community. Students >> you are again welcome to propose such idea by your own. One student idea >> for now! >> >> Ideas so far: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/ideas >> >> To propose an idea just respond to this post by fulfilling this idea >> template: >> >> Title: >> >> Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) >> >> Possible mentor: (if already known) >> >> Possible second mentor: (if already known) >> >> Description >> >> Technical Details >> >> Benefits to the Student >> >> Benefits to the Community >> >> Best regards >> Serge and Janko, >> your this year GSoC admins >> >> >> -- >> Janko Mivšek >> Aida/Web >> Smalltalk Web Application Server >> http://www.aidaweb.si >> > > > -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 |
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Here's an idea. If you think this is a viable idea for students, please enhance what I have already entered.
======== Title: Squeak Web browser Plugin for Major Browsers Level: Intermediate to Advanced Possible mentor: (if already known) Possible second mentor: (if already known) Description: The goal is to make Squeak accessible within major web browsers. Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome/Chromium are two open-source browsers that should be targeted/tested. Safari, IE and Opera would be nice to have, and strongly encouraged. Technical Details: The current plugin code could be a good start. Benefits to the Student: Learn or enhance knowledge of web browser plugins for major browsers. Requires student to learn techniques to interface two different products (squeak and a web browser) - each that maintain their own unique characteristics. Helps student be more attractive for Internet-based technical employment. Benefits to the Community A Squeak plugin breaks the Page-Bound barrier of traditional HTML/JS/PHP generated content. Current Squeak applications could be easily adapted and utilized by users almost immediately. Allows new web apps to be created using powerful built-in Squeak tools. Could elevate the marketability of Squeak and may proliferate it's use. ======== On 3/26/2013 4:40 AM, Janko Mivšek wrote: > Dear Squeakers, > > Not much Squeak related ones between GSoC ideas, which are slowly > coming, 14 so far, but this is way below the 30+ in previous years. So, > stretch your brain, come with some more ideas, which will be interesting > for potential students and of course useful for our community. Students > you are again welcome to propose such idea by your own. One student idea > for now! > > Ideas so far: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/ideas > > To propose an idea just respond to this post by fulfilling this idea > template: > > Title: > > Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) > > Possible mentor: (if already known) > > Possible second mentor: (if already known) > > Description > > Technical Details > > Benefits to the Student > > Benefits to the Community > > Best regards > Serge and Janko, > your this year GSoC admins > > |
Hi Brad,
I added it to the ideas but I'm questioning the whole plugin idea because nowadays everyone is running away of any plugin as fast as possible. From Flash, Java plugins included. Also, any plugin must nowadays support 5 different browsers on 3 different OSes + add mobile ones and you have a mess unmaintainable even for biggest players like Adobe or Oracle for Java. Best regards Janko Dne 26. 03. 2013 17:46, piše Brad Fuller: > Here's an idea. If you think this is a viable idea for students, please > enhance what I have already entered. > > ======== > > Title: > Squeak Web browser Plugin for Major Browsers > > Level: > Intermediate to Advanced > > Possible mentor: (if already known) > > Possible second mentor: (if already known) > > Description: > The goal is to make Squeak accessible within major web browsers. > Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome/Chromium are two open-source > browsers that should be targeted/tested. Safari, IE and Opera would be > nice to have, and strongly encouraged. > > Technical Details: > The current plugin code could be a good start. > > Benefits to the Student: > Learn or enhance knowledge of web browser plugins for major browsers. > Requires student to learn techniques to interface two different products > (squeak and a web browser) - each that maintain their own unique > characteristics. > Helps student be more attractive for Internet-based technical employment. > > Benefits to the Community > A Squeak plugin breaks the Page-Bound barrier of traditional HTML/JS/PHP > generated content. > Current Squeak applications could be easily adapted and utilized by > users almost immediately. > Allows new web apps to be created using powerful built-in Squeak tools. > Could elevate the marketability of Squeak and may proliferate it's use. > > > ======== > > > > On 3/26/2013 4:40 AM, Janko Mivšek wrote: >> Dear Squeakers, >> >> Not much Squeak related ones between GSoC ideas, which are slowly >> coming, 14 so far, but this is way below the 30+ in previous years. So, >> stretch your brain, come with some more ideas, which will be interesting >> for potential students and of course useful for our community. Students >> you are again welcome to propose such idea by your own. One student idea >> for now! >> >> Ideas so far: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/ideas >> >> To propose an idea just respond to this post by fulfilling this idea >> template: >> >> Title: >> >> Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) >> >> Possible mentor: (if already known) >> >> Possible second mentor: (if already known) >> >> Description >> >> Technical Details >> >> Benefits to the Student >> >> Benefits to the Community >> >> Best regards >> Serge and Janko, >> your this year GSoC admins >> >> > > > -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 |
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Where can one see results from the previous years? I know there have been interesting GSOC projects in the past but I have no idea if they actually materialized.
rado
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> wrote: Bert, just to be clear, ESUG is not selecting the projects, mentors do! |
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Yes... I agree... perhaps its more of a business
problem that needs to be addressed. Ok, so what's the problem? Background argument: I think
squeak is a _pretty_good_ platform for educational products (as
I've mentioned). You can quickly develop product (if you know the
capabilities of the classes well.) and it runs on multiple
platforms on various versions of those platforms. Fantastic! It isn't bullet proof (really, what is) I wish the
multimedia capabilities were much more robust (I'll probably get
hammered for saying that). There are other issues, but the main
thing is trust. I haven't heard school boards, or IT departments
(if you want to call them that) feeling good about the support,
the security and the development structure around the platform.
I've heard the opposite. Perhaps I'm totally wrong, and I'd like
to be. Some of that is because there isn't a company that
stands behind and supports its applications --- because... well...
there isn't any that I know of that are widespread. What's the good news? So, why a "web browser plugin". Its clearly just to get around the IT department approval of running an app locally. If it's in the browser, and found to be relatively secure, it's usually accepted.
So, you're right. Unless it could be used to further
the education of a CS student, I withdraw my proposal. Perhaps
there is something that could be done in GSoC to further the
security of Squeak and it's connection to the Internet? brad "Janko Mivšek"
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Hi Brad, I added it to the ideas but I'm questioning the whole plugin idea because nowadays everyone is running away of any plugin as fast as possible. From Flash, Java plugins included. Also, any plugin must nowadays support 5 different browsers on 3 different OSes + add mobile ones and you have a mess unmaintainable even for biggest players like Adobe or Oracle for Java. Best regards Janko Dne 26. 03. 2013 17:46, piše Brad Fuller:Here's an idea. If you think this is a viable idea for students, please enhance what I have already entered. ======== Title: Squeak Web browser Plugin for Major Browsers Level: Intermediate to Advanced Possible mentor: (if already known) Possible second mentor: (if already known) Description: The goal is to make Squeak accessible within major web browsers. Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome/Chromium are two open-source browsers that should be targeted/tested. Safari, IE and Opera would be nice to have, and strongly encouraged. Technical Details: The current plugin code could be a good start. Benefits to the Student: Learn or enhance knowledge of web browser plugins for major browsers. Requires student to learn techniques to interface two different products (squeak and a web browser) - each that maintain their own unique characteristics. Helps student be more attractive for Internet-based technical employment. Benefits to the Community A Squeak plugin breaks the Page-Bound barrier of traditional HTML/JS/PHP generated content. Current Squeak applications could be easily adapted and utilized by users almost immediately. Allows new web apps to be created using powerful built-in Squeak tools. Could elevate the marketability of Squeak and may proliferate it's use. ======== On 3/26/2013 4:40 AM, Janko Mivšek wrote:-- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565Dear Squeakers, Not much Squeak related ones between GSoC ideas, which are slowly coming, 14 so far, but this is way below the 30+ in previous years. So, stretch your brain, come with some more ideas, which will be interesting for potential students and of course useful for our community. Students you are again welcome to propose such idea by your own. One student idea for now! Ideas so far: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/ideas To propose an idea just respond to this post by fulfilling this idea template: Title: Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) Possible mentor: (if already known) Possible second mentor: (if already known) Description Technical Details Benefits to the Student Benefits to the Community Best regards Serge and Janko, your this year GSoC admins |
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