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Bob Arning-2
I have found a zip of updates back to the beginning of time, e.g.:

========
001tk_test.doit========

"Just a test if the update broadcasting is working"
Transcript show: '  You got an external update'; cr.!

=======002tk_collaspe_RF.cs=========

'From Squeak 1.31 of Feb 4, 1998 on 8 May 1998 at 4:31:32 pm'!

!DualChangeSorter methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 5/8/1998 16:30'!
modelWakeUp
    "A window with me as model is being entered.  Make sure I am up-to-date with the changeSets."

    "Dumb way"
    leftCngSorter canDiscardEdits
        ifTrue: [leftCngSorter update]    "does both"
        ifFalse: [rightCngSorter update].
! !


!StandardSystemController methodsFor: 'basic control sequence' stamp: 'tk 5/8/1998 16:17'!
controlInitialize
    view displayEmphasized.
    view uncacheBits.  "Release cached bitmap while active"
    sensor waitNoButton.
    status _ #active.
    view topView isCollapsed ifFalse: [model modelWakeUp].! !

================


So there's much more to see. I have not yet updated the 'current' version shown in the diffs browser. I'll need to dig for a really old image to do that.

http://69.251.218.6:9116/


http://69.251.218.6:9116/diffs


Cheers,
Bob


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Re: More old updates uncovered

David T. Lewis
This is really good news!

Any chance we might also save the zip file on ftp.squeak.org for the benefit
of future archaeological digs?

I love the change set browser ... Check it out, John Maloney's piano roll
first appears in update 128 back in mid 1998 ?!? wow.

:-)


Dave


On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 06:17:20PM -0400, Bob Arning wrote:

> I have found a zip of updates back to the beginning of time, e.g.:
>
> ========001tk_test.doit========
>
> "Just a test if the update broadcasting is working"
> Transcript show: '  You got an external update'; cr.!
>
> =======002tk_collaspe_RF.cs=========
>
> 'From Squeak 1.31 of Feb 4, 1998 on 8 May 1998 at 4:31:32 pm'!
>
> !DualChangeSorter methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 5/8/1998 16:30'!
> modelWakeUp
>     "A window with me as model is being entered.  Make sure I am
> up-to-date with the changeSets."
>
>     "Dumb way"
>     leftCngSorter canDiscardEdits
>         ifTrue: [leftCngSorter update]    "does both"
>         ifFalse: [rightCngSorter update].
> ! !
>
>
> !StandardSystemController methodsFor: 'basic control sequence' stamp:
> 'tk 5/8/1998 16:17'!
> controlInitialize
>     view displayEmphasized.
>     view uncacheBits.  "Release cached bitmap while active"
>     sensor waitNoButton.
>     status _ #active.
>     view topView isCollapsed ifFalse: [model modelWakeUp].! !
>
> ================
>
>
> So there's much more to see. I have not yet updated the 'current'
> version shown in the diffs browser. I'll need to dig for a really old
> image to do that.
>
> http://69.251.218.6:9116/
>
> http://69.251.218.6:9116/diffs
>
> Cheers,
> Bob

>


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Re: More old updates uncovered

Bert Freudenberg

On 2013-10-02, at 00:40, "David T. Lewis" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This is really good news!
>
> Any chance we might also save the zip file on ftp.squeak.org for the benefit
> of future archaeological digs?

Isn't that here already?

http://ftp.squeak.org/history/

- Bert -



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Re: More old updates uncovered

Bob Arning-2
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On 10/1/13 6:40 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
> This is really good news!
>
> Any chance we might also save the zip file on ftp.squeak.org for the benefit
> of future archaeological digs?
It is there

http://ftp.squeak.org/history/updates.zip

just not where the other updates are. ;-)

Cheers,
Bob

>
> I love the change set browser ... Check it out, John Maloney's piano roll
> first appears in update 128 back in mid 1998 ?!? wow.
>
> :-)
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 06:17:20PM -0400, Bob Arning wrote:
>> I have found a zip of updates back to the beginning of time, e.g.:
>>
>> ========001tk_test.doit========
>>
>> "Just a test if the update broadcasting is working"
>> Transcript show: '  You got an external update'; cr.!
>>
>> =======002tk_collaspe_RF.cs=========
>>
>> 'From Squeak 1.31 of Feb 4, 1998 on 8 May 1998 at 4:31:32 pm'!
>>
>> !DualChangeSorter methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 5/8/1998 16:30'!
>> modelWakeUp
>>      "A window with me as model is being entered.  Make sure I am
>> up-to-date with the changeSets."
>>
>>      "Dumb way"
>>      leftCngSorter canDiscardEdits
>>          ifTrue: [leftCngSorter update]    "does both"
>>          ifFalse: [rightCngSorter update].
>> ! !
>>
>>
>> !StandardSystemController methodsFor: 'basic control sequence' stamp:
>> 'tk 5/8/1998 16:17'!
>> controlInitialize
>>      view displayEmphasized.
>>      view uncacheBits.  "Release cached bitmap while active"
>>      sensor waitNoButton.
>>      status _ #active.
>>      view topView isCollapsed ifFalse: [model modelWakeUp].! !
>>
>> ================
>>
>>
>> So there's much more to see. I have not yet updated the 'current'
>> version shown in the diffs browser. I'll need to dig for a really old
>> image to do that.
>>
>> http://69.251.218.6:9116/
>>
>> http://69.251.218.6:9116/diffs
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bob
>
>


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Re: More old updates uncovered

Nicolas Cellier
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Great.
Note that your last post was classified as spam by gmail... I wonder which Squeak message deserved that ;)


2013/10/2 Bob Arning <[hidden email]>
I have found a zip of updates back to the beginning of time, e.g.:

========
001tk_test.doit========

"Just a test if the update broadcasting is working"
Transcript show: '  You got an external update'; cr.!

=======002tk_collaspe_RF.cs=========

'From Squeak 1.31 of Feb 4, 1998 on 8 May 1998 at 4:31:32 pm'!

!DualChangeSorter methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 5/8/1998 16:30'!
modelWakeUp
    "A window with me as model is being entered.  Make sure I am up-to-date with the changeSets."

    "Dumb way"
    leftCngSorter canDiscardEdits
        ifTrue: [leftCngSorter update]    "does both"
        ifFalse: [rightCngSorter update].
! !


!StandardSystemController methodsFor: 'basic control sequence' stamp: 'tk 5/8/1998 16:17'!
controlInitialize
    view displayEmphasized.
    view uncacheBits.  "Release cached bitmap while active"
    sensor waitNoButton.
    status _ #active.
    view topView isCollapsed ifFalse: [model modelWakeUp].! !

================


So there's much more to see. I have not yet updated the 'current' version shown in the diffs browser. I'll need to dig for a really old image to do that.

http://69.251.218.6:9116/


http://69.251.218.6:9116/diffs


Cheers,
Bob






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Re: More old updates uncovered

Bob Arning-2
And Thunderbird suggested yours might be a scam. I think it's the two odd-looking urls that triggered it.

Cheers,
Bob

On 10/1/13 6:59 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
Great.
Note that your last post was classified as spam by gmail... I wonder which Squeak message deserved that ;)


2013/10/2 Bob Arning <[hidden email]>
I have found a zip of updates back to the beginning of time, e.g.:

========
001tk_test.doit========

"Just a test if the update broadcasting is working"
Transcript show: '  You got an external update'; cr.!

=======002tk_collaspe_RF.cs=========

'From Squeak 1.31 of Feb 4, 1998 on 8 May 1998 at 4:31:32 pm'!

!DualChangeSorter methodsFor: 'all' stamp: 'tk 5/8/1998 16:30'!
modelWakeUp
    "A window with me as model is being entered.  Make sure I am up-to-date with the changeSets."

    "Dumb way"
    leftCngSorter canDiscardEdits
        ifTrue: [leftCngSorter update]    "does both"
        ifFalse: [rightCngSorter update].
! !


!StandardSystemController methodsFor: 'basic control sequence' stamp: 'tk 5/8/1998 16:17'!
controlInitialize
    view displayEmphasized.
    view uncacheBits.  "Release cached bitmap while active"
    sensor waitNoButton.
    status _ #active.
    view topView isCollapsed ifFalse: [model modelWakeUp].! !

================


So there's much more to see. I have not yet updated the 'current' version shown in the diffs browser. I'll need to dig for a really old image to do that.

http://69.251.218.6:9116/


http://69.251.218.6:9116/diffs


Cheers,
Bob







    



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Re: More old updates uncovered

Jecel Assumpcao Jr
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Bob,

> I have found a zip of updates back to the beginning of time, e.g.:
>
> ========001tk_test.doit========
>
> "Just a test if the update broadcasting is working"
> Transcript show: '  You got an external update'; cr.!
>
> =======002tk_collaspe_RF.cs=========
>
> 'From Squeak 1.31 of Feb 4, 1998 on 8 May 1998 at 4:31:32 pm'!

certainly the beginning of the upates! This is a good find.

For the relicensing project, however, I had to go way before that all
the way to 1996 and version 1.1. I think it was version 1.2 that
introduced author initials (I would have to check my notes), so before
that the methods don't have individual time stamps and only some have
authorship information in the comment.

In the first few versions people would just send code to this list and
Dan Ingalls would copy/paste the most interesting stuff into his system
for the next release. This had the side effect of lots of methods with
the initials "di" when that feature was introduced that really had been
created by other people. It was possible to trace back each method to
the email where it first appeared, however, and so find out the real
author for the purpose of relicensing. It would be an interesting
project to convert that early data into something browsable, but it
would need to be someone with way too much time on their hands :-)

-- Jecel