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thread) *** > >tim Rowledge tim at rowledge.org >Thu Jul 5 20:52:26 UTC 2007 > >On 4-Jul-07, at 12:40 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> >> I have prepared an image with small code base that >> license conversion and is able to load a sequence of packages up to >> working Morphic system. > >I'm rather inclined to the idea that "Morphic Must Die!" > It hurts me to hear you say that, Tim. You have a responsible position on the board of squeakfoundation and what you say carries weight. And can cause harm. It might also bring about the very thing you wish for. And I believe if that happened you would want to unwish it. I have been making efforts and progress (with self funded resources) to repair squeakdev morphic. Most of what Ive done Ive done on spec and the toughest part of my task has been to sell the repairs to the various and ever changing harvesting/releasing teams. Smalltalk/Squeak is a very rich language base on a half page response to a challenge to do something interesting and powerful in that half page. Morphic is an interation or two beyond that and to me represents a challenge to let even children do interesting things graphically just by assembling pre-existing morphs. Morphic also represents a first pass at doing things. Its been so popular lots of people have tried their hand at it. Some with less understanding than others. The harvesting teams have never before had the ability to do quality control. So poor smelling code has accumulated in squeak in general and it will look like it is mostly in morphic because people mostly see morphic. As Ive tracked down these bugs I have found the most profound ones to pre-date morphic. Now it would be nice if someone gave you a gazillion dollars and stood back and watched what you produced with it. It would be nice if people of the quality who could create a Cairo Canvas or whatever did so with their own self funded time or some of your gazillions. But we both are probably aware that that is NGH (Not-Gonna_Happen). You got what you got. You CAN start from where you are. You can use the wonderful tools that exist in squeak to produce, patiently, slowly, and incrementally, a morphic and squeak that is much better than it is today. My question for you is stated in POSITIVE terms, what did you really mean to say? What as a user story would you like to see come about? What (other than the NGH gazillions) is keeping it from happening? What is keeping you from making progress towards the goal? Or stated in postive terms what would get you(us) started along the path to that goal? Your in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 |
On 7/8/07, Jerome Peace <[hidden email]> wrote: Morphic! (from - methods for license conversion - Hi, What 'specs' are you going by? I'd be interesting in seeing them. JTS |
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