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New KomHttpServer, KomServices & DynamicBindings versions

Giovanni Corriga
Hi all,

Since yesterday, I've joined Goran as a mantainer of the
DynamicBindings, KomServices and KomHttpServer packages.

We've also moved the KomHttpServer packages from Goran's own repository
to Samir Saidani's KomHttpServer repository on SqueakSource (see
http://www.squeaksource.com/KomHttpServer.html ). In this new repo
you'll find new versions of DynamicBindings, KomServices and
KomHttpServer that integrate various fixes and modifications by me,
Goran, Philippe, Ron and others.

I've already released a new version of KomServices on SqueakMap.
A new version of DynamicBindings will follow as soon as Goran adds me to
that package (he's at OOPSLA in Vancouver right now).
A new version of KomHttpServer will land in SqueakMap after some more
testing of the new package.

bugs.squeak.org has a new KomHttpServer category in the Squeak packages
project. All bugs posted to this category will be assigned to me.

In the next days, I'll come up with a roadmap for future developments of
the package. Meanwhile, I'll start looking at the already existing bugs.

        Ciao,

                Giovanni


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Re: New KomHttpServer, KomServices & DynamicBindings versions

Raymond Asselin
Le 24/10/07, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]> écrivait :

Snipp....
>(he's at OOPSLA in Vancouver right now).
Hi Giovanni,
    humm....in Montreal not Vancouver there is around 4800
kilometers between the two....

:)

Ciao

>   Ciao,
>
>       Giovanni

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Re: New KomHttpServer, KomServices & DynamicBindings versions

Jason Johnson-5
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On 10/24/07, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> In the next days, I'll come up with a roadmap for future developments of
> the package. Meanwhile, I'll start looking at the already existing bugs.

That's very cool.  My proposed would be speed, responsiveness and
HTTPS.  For example, if someone is running a web server it's a fair
chance that's the most important application in the image to be
responsive, so scheduling should reflect that (if it doesn't already).

I like Commanche because it feels like it has the capabilities of
Apache [1] but without that awful configuration.

[1] Apache has more modules of course, but you could do the same thing
with Commanche I think.

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Re: New KomHttpServer, KomServices & DynamicBindings versions

NorbertHartl
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On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:34 +0200, Giovanni Corriga wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Since yesterday, I've joined Goran as a mantainer of the
> DynamicBindings, KomServices and KomHttpServer packages.
>
> We've also moved the KomHttpServer packages from Goran's own repository
> to Samir Saidani's KomHttpServer repository on SqueakSource (see
> http://www.squeaksource.com/KomHttpServer.html ). In this new repo
> you'll find new versions of DynamicBindings, KomServices and
> KomHttpServer that integrate various fixes and modifications by me,
> Goran, Philippe, Ron and others.
>
> I've already released a new version of KomServices on SqueakMap.
> A new version of DynamicBindings will follow as soon as Goran adds me to
> that package (he's at OOPSLA in Vancouver right now).
> A new version of KomHttpServer will land in SqueakMap after some more
> testing of the new package.
>
> bugs.squeak.org has a new KomHttpServer category in the Squeak packages
> project. All bugs posted to this category will be assigned to me.
>
> In the next days, I'll come up with a roadmap for future developments of
> the package. Meanwhile, I'll start looking at the already existing bugs.
>
This is very good news. Do you know right now how encodings will be
handled? Will there be support for 3.8 and 3.9?

If it isn't on your todo list already please put handling of multipart
fields onto it. At the moment WAKomEncoded39 converts every response
to utf8 but it doesn't do the reverse on processing multipart fields.
Dealing with with html forms with and without uploads gives you
different encodings. I'll attach a file which fixed this for me but I
think there a other solutions which are way better than mine.

regards,

Norbert



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Re: New KomHttpServer, KomServices & DynamicBindings versions

Giovanni Corriga
Il giorno ven, 26/10/2007 alle 09.41 +0200, Norbert Hartl ha scritto:

> On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:34 +0200, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Since yesterday, I've joined Goran as a mantainer of the
> > DynamicBindings, KomServices and KomHttpServer packages.
> >
> > We've also moved the KomHttpServer packages from Goran's own repository
> > to Samir Saidani's KomHttpServer repository on SqueakSource (see
> > http://www.squeaksource.com/KomHttpServer.html ). In this new repo
> > you'll find new versions of DynamicBindings, KomServices and
> > KomHttpServer that integrate various fixes and modifications by me,
> > Goran, Philippe, Ron and others.
> >
> > I've already released a new version of KomServices on SqueakMap.
> > A new version of DynamicBindings will follow as soon as Goran adds me to
> > that package (he's at OOPSLA in Vancouver right now).
> > A new version of KomHttpServer will land in SqueakMap after some more
> > testing of the new package.
> >
> > bugs.squeak.org has a new KomHttpServer category in the Squeak packages
> > project. All bugs posted to this category will be assigned to me.
> >
> > In the next days, I'll come up with a roadmap for future developments of
> > the package. Meanwhile, I'll start looking at the already existing bugs.
> >
>
> This is very good news. Do you know right now how encodings will be
> handled? Will there be support for 3.8 and 3.9?

I will use 3.10 for development and test on 3.8, 3.8.1 and 3.9 . I will
support earlier versions on a request basis. As for encodings, the
latest stable version includes a patch provided by Philippe that makes
encoding handling in Seaside easier. I am also considering exploring the
possibility of moving part of Seaside's encoding handling logic to Kom.

> If it isn't on your todo list already please put handling of multipart
> fields onto it. At the moment WAKomEncoded39 converts every response
> to utf8 but it doesn't do the reverse on processing multipart fields.
> Dealing with with html forms with and without uploads gives you
> different encodings. I'll attach a file which fixed this for me but I
> think there a other solutions which are way better than mine.

According to Philippe Marschall, the new KomHttpServer 7.0.5 that I've
just published on Squeak Map makes WAKomEncoded39 unnecessary. Can you
reproduce the same bug using WAKomEncoded, too? In case, would you mind
posting the bug report and the suggested fix on Mantis?

        Giovanni


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Re: New KomHttpServer, KomServices & DynamicBindings versions

Philippe Marschall
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2007/10/26, Norbert Hartl <[hidden email]>:

>
> On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:34 +0200, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Since yesterday, I've joined Goran as a mantainer of the
> > DynamicBindings, KomServices and KomHttpServer packages.
> >
> > We've also moved the KomHttpServer packages from Goran's own repository
> > to Samir Saidani's KomHttpServer repository on SqueakSource (see
> > http://www.squeaksource.com/KomHttpServer.html ). In this new repo
> > you'll find new versions of DynamicBindings, KomServices and
> > KomHttpServer that integrate various fixes and modifications by me,
> > Goran, Philippe, Ron and others.
> >
> > I've already released a new version of KomServices on SqueakMap.
> > A new version of DynamicBindings will follow as soon as Goran adds me to
> > that package (he's at OOPSLA in Vancouver right now).
> > A new version of KomHttpServer will land in SqueakMap after some more
> > testing of the new package.
> >
> > bugs.squeak.org has a new KomHttpServer category in the Squeak packages
> > project. All bugs posted to this category will be assigned to me.
> >
> > In the next days, I'll come up with a roadmap for future developments of
> > the package. Meanwhile, I'll start looking at the already existing bugs.
> >
>
> This is very good news. Do you know right now how encodings will be
> handled? Will there be support for 3.8 and 3.9?
>
> If it isn't on your todo list already please put handling of multipart
> fields onto it. At the moment WAKomEncoded39 converts every response
> to utf8 but it doesn't do the reverse on processing multipart fields.

Yes it does. It does not for file uploads. There isn't even way of
knowing whether an uploaded file is a textfile or not. There is no way
of knowing what encoding it has because the operating system of the
client doesn't even know.

Cheers
Philippe

> Dealing with with html forms with and without uploads gives you
> different encodings. I'll attach a file which fixed this for me but I
> think there a other solutions which are way better than mine.
>
> regards,
>
> Norbert
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: New KomHttpServer, KomServices & DynamicBindings versions

NorbertHartl
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> According to Philippe Marschall, the new KomHttpServer 7.0.5 that I've
> just published on Squeak Map makes WAKomEncoded39 unnecessary. Can you
> reproduce the same bug using WAKomEncoded, too? In case, would you mind
> posting the bug report and the suggested fix on Mantis?

Everything is fine with WAKomEncoded. The processing of fields is
done regardless of get and post requests. Very good!

thanks to all,

Norbert


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Re: New KomHttpServer, KomServices & DynamicBindings versions

NorbertHartl
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On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 10:48 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2007/10/26, Norbert Hartl <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:34 +0200, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Since yesterday, I've joined Goran as a mantainer of the
> > > DynamicBindings, KomServices and KomHttpServer packages.
> > >
> > > We've also moved the KomHttpServer packages from Goran's own repository
> > > to Samir Saidani's KomHttpServer repository on SqueakSource (see
> > > http://www.squeaksource.com/KomHttpServer.html ). In this new repo
> > > you'll find new versions of DynamicBindings, KomServices and
> > > KomHttpServer that integrate various fixes and modifications by me,
> > > Goran, Philippe, Ron and others.
> > >
> > > I've already released a new version of KomServices on SqueakMap.
> > > A new version of DynamicBindings will follow as soon as Goran adds me to
> > > that package (he's at OOPSLA in Vancouver right now).
> > > A new version of KomHttpServer will land in SqueakMap after some more
> > > testing of the new package.
> > >
> > > bugs.squeak.org has a new KomHttpServer category in the Squeak packages
> > > project. All bugs posted to this category will be assigned to me.
> > >
> > > In the next days, I'll come up with a roadmap for future developments of
> > > the package. Meanwhile, I'll start looking at the already existing bugs.
> > >
> >
> > This is very good news. Do you know right now how encodings will be
> > handled? Will there be support for 3.8 and 3.9?
> >
> > If it isn't on your todo list already please put handling of multipart
> > fields onto it. At the moment WAKomEncoded39 converts every response
> > to utf8 but it doesn't do the reverse on processing multipart fields.
>
> Yes it does. It does not for file uploads. There isn't even way of
> knowing whether an uploaded file is a textfile or not. There is no way
> of knowing what encoding it has because the operating system of the
> client doesn't even know.
>
I didn't mean "converting the upload". I meant conversion of the fields
that come along with the upload (or fields that come via post
request). The issue is solved. See my other posting.

thanks,

Norbert


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Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

Tansel Ersavas

Seems after Intel Microsoft too is joining the bandwagon of OLPC after
ridiculing it as a toy initially.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/microsoft-sees-window-of-opportunity-i
n-lowcost-laptop/2007/10/26/1192941297938.html




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Re: Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

Michael Haupt-3
Hi,

On 10/26/07, Tansel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Seems after Intel Microsoft too is joining the bandwagon of OLPC after
> ridiculing it as a toy initially.

were they joining the bandwagon, they would abstain from porting
Windows XP to the XO. It's a hardware/software system of a piece, with
an actual purpose, not just another laptop.

(In other words: will they also port Sugar to XP?)

Best,

Michael

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Re: Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

garduino
Sorry with my comment, but nothing good, nothing to the commonweal may be expected from MS.

Cheers.


2007/10/26, Michael Haupt <[hidden email]>:
Hi,

On 10/26/07, Tansel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Seems after Intel Microsoft too is joining the bandwagon of OLPC after
> ridiculing it as a toy initially.

were they joining the bandwagon, they would abstain from porting
Windows XP to the XO. It's a hardware/software system of a piece, with
an actual purpose, not just another laptop.

(In other words: will they also port Sugar to XP?)

Best,

Michael






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Re: Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

Gary Fisher-3
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Showing once again the complete cluelessness of Microsoft.

Gary


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>
> Seems after Intel Microsoft too is joining the bandwagon of OLPC after
> ridiculing it as a toy initially.
>
>
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/microsoft-sees-window-of-opportunity-i
> n-lowcost-laptop/2007/10/26/1192941297938.html
>
>
>
>


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Re: Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

Michael Rueger-4
gafisher wrote:
> Showing once again the complete cluelessness of Microsoft.

Well, what do you think a third world politician (although first world
ones are no different really) with no clue about technology will do
given the following choices to blow 100 million $ on the OLPC:

risk it on a buggy, delayed, unproven system software
or
go with world wide established Windows?

Just to be sure nobody gets this wrong. This is not my opinion, I'm just
stating what I think might happen...

Michael

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Re: Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

Nicolas Cellier-3
Depends if those politicians have invested own money in anti-virus
market or not...

Michael Rueger a écrit :

> gafisher wrote:
>> Showing once again the complete cluelessness of Microsoft.
>
> Well, what do you think a third world politician (although first world
> ones are no different really) with no clue about technology will do
> given the following choices to blow 100 million $ on the OLPC:
>
> risk it on a buggy, delayed, unproven system software
> or
> go with world wide established Windows?
>
> Just to be sure nobody gets this wrong. This is not my opinion, I'm just
> stating what I think might happen...
>
> Michael
>
>


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Re: Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

garduino
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Anything may be expected from most of the politicians also, but not different to all things of
these days..........the power of the money, Whose have more money have more power....in
all fields.........unfortunately.

2007/10/26, Michael Rueger <[hidden email]>:
gafisher wrote:
> Showing once again the complete cluelessness of Microsoft.

Well, what do you think a third world politician (although first world
ones are no different really) with no clue about technology will do
given the following choices to blow 100 million $ on the OLPC:

risk it on a buggy, delayed, unproven system software
or
go with world wide established Windows?

Just to be sure nobody gets this wrong. This is not my opinion, I'm just
stating what I think might happen...

Michael





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Re: Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

Jason Johnson-5
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On 10/26/07, Michael Rueger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> risk it on a buggy, delayed, unproven system software
> or
> go with world wide established Windows?

You mean the windows that's known world wide for being buggy, delayed
and proven not to work in less then perfect environments?

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Re: Interesting news: Microsoft working on running XP on OLPC XO

Edgar J. De Cleene



El 10/27/07 6:25 AM, "Jason Johnson" <[hidden email]> escribió:

> You mean the windows that's known world wide for being buggy, delayed
> and proven not to work in less then perfect environments?

But 80 % of people use it.
Who said the perfect is enemy of good ? I don't remember.
By the way , I think Microsoft (Bill Gates) is Big Brother 2007

Edgar