New Win32 VM (3.9.1)

> Hi Folks -
>
> I was in a VM-building mood today and took the chance to build an  
> updated Win32 VM based on the latest VMMaker. Since it has been a while  
> since the last update you might be a bit cautious about updating  
> production systems (the 3.7.x series is one of the most stable releases  
> that I've ever done) and give 3.9.1 a good workout first. There  
> shouldn't be any major differences other than that this VM is built with  
> the new build structure but if you find any problems, please let me know.
>
> Binaries are here:
> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-bin.zip
>
> Sources are here:
> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-src.zip
>
> Enjoy,
>    - Andreas
>
>

> For me this 3.9.1 VM refuses to run squeak as windows service. 3.7.1 VM
> worked...
>
> I used command to start vm:
>
> c:\AT\squeak.exe -log: "c:\AT\ATLOG.LOG" -service: "AT TOOLS"
>
> and I have squeak.ini with line:
> ImageFile="c:\AT\Squeak3.8.1-6747.image"
>
> 3.9.1 VM just opens image for user, do not installs as service.
>
>
>
>
> On 2/2/07, * Andreas Raab* <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Folks -
>
>     I was in a VM-building mood today and took the chance to build an
>     updated Win32 VM based on the latest VMMaker. Since it has been a while
>     since the last update you might be a bit cautious about updating
>     production systems (the 3.7.x series is one of the most stable releases
>     that I've ever done) and give 3.9.1 a good workout first. There
>     shouldn't be any major differences other than that this VM is built
>     with
>     the new build structure but if you find any problems, please let me
>     know.
>
>     Binaries are here:
>     http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-bin.zip
>     <http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-bin.zip>
>
>     Sources are here:
>     http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-src.zip
>
>     Enjoy,
>        - Andreas
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

> Hi Folks -
>
> I was in a VM-building mood today and took the chance to build an
> updated Win32 VM based on the latest VMMaker. Since it has been a while
> since the last update you might be a bit cautious about updating
> production systems (the 3.7.x series is one of the most stable releases
> that I've ever done) and give 3.9.1 a good workout first. There
> shouldn't be any major differences other than that this VM is built with
> the new build structure but if you find any problems, please let me know.
>
> Binaries are here:
> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-bin.zip
>
> Sources are here:
> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-src.zip
>
> Enjoy,
>   - Andreas
>
>

> Hi Folks -
>
> Turns out that the Makefile I used had a small but in some situations  
> significant problem (which is both, hard to explain as well as to  
> debug). To avoid any possible problems I've built another VM (3.9.2)  
> that is available here:
>
> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.2-bin.zip
> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.2-src.zip
>
> Cheers,
>    - Andreas
>
> Andreas Raab wrote:
>> Hi Folks -
>>  I was in a VM-building mood today and took the chance to build an  
>> updated Win32 VM based on the latest VMMaker. Since it has been a while  
>> since the last update you might be a bit cautious about updating  
>> production systems (the 3.7.x series is one of the most stable releases  
>> that I've ever done) and give 3.9.1 a good workout first. There  
>> shouldn't be any major differences other than that this VM is built  
>> with the new build structure but if you find any problems, please let  
>> me know.
>>  Binaries are here:
>> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-bin.zip
>>  Sources are here:
>> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.1-src.zip
>>  Enjoy,
>>   - Andreas
>>
>
>
>

> Hi Folks -
>
> Turns out that the Makefile I used had a small but in some situations
> significant problem (which is both, hard to explain as well as to
> debug). To avoid any possible problems I've built another VM (3.9.2)
> that is available here:
>
> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.2-bin.zip
> http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.9.2-src.zip
>
> Cheers,
>   - Andreas

> Andreas Raab wrote:
>> * And finally: Anyone else seeing the same problem?
>
> I've been using the 3.9.2 VM on Win XP extensively for a few days now  
> and did not notice anything wrong with it.
>
> Stef
>
>
>

> Michael van der Gulik wrote:
> > key events are sometimes mangled up, i.e. they don't arrive in the right
> >> order, if i type too fast.
> >
> >
> > I've noticed this using shout; I suspect it's a process synchronisation
> > bug.
> >
>
> yes, I have this too at times. quite annoying indeed, and definitely
> shout-related (well that's the only bug in this wonderful package).

> Martin Beck wrote:
>> After using this version for some time I recognized a decreasing in
>> the speed of the event handling. The responses on my mouse clicks are
>> very slow after some time, so browsing source isn't fun anymore. :(
>> Also, my key events are sometimes mangled up, i.e. they don't arrive
>> in the right order, if i type too fast. Also I can almost count the
>> seconds till the key press events arrive on my screen. Using the vm
>> from squeak.org solves this problem in the same image. However, 0
>> tinyBenchmarks prints slightly better results for your version.
>
> I have couple of questions:
> * What image are using?
> * How long does it take until the effect is noticable?
> * How fast is the machine you are running on? (only for comparison to
> see what to expect on other machines)
> * Are you using any "uncommon" plugins? (in particular those that might
> have an effect on UI handling, say host windows, or wxSqueak)
> * Does Alt-Period get rid of this problem?
> * Does switching to 3.9.2 get rid of this problem?
> * And finally: Anyone else seeing the same problem?

> Andreas Raab schrieb:
> > Martin Beck wrote:
> >> After using this version for some time I recognized a decreasing in
> >> the speed of the event handling. The responses on my mouse clicks are
> >> very slow after some time, so browsing source isn't fun anymore. :(
> >> Also, my key events are sometimes mangled up, i.e. they don't arrive
> >> in the right order, if i type too fast. Also I can almost count the
> >> seconds till the key press events arrive on my screen. Using the vm
> >> from squeak.org solves this problem in the same image. However, 0
> >> tinyBenchmarks prints slightly better results for your version.
> >
> > I have couple of questions:
> > * What image are using?
> > * How long does it take until the effect is noticable?
> > * How fast is the machine you are running on? (only for comparison to
> > see what to expect on other machines)
> > * Are you using any "uncommon" plugins? (in particular those that might
> > have an effect on UI handling, say host windows, or wxSqueak)
> > * Does Alt-Period get rid of this problem?
> > * Does switching to 3.9.2 get rid of this problem?
> > * And finally: Anyone else seeing the same problem?
> Sorry for the long answer time, but its hard to get the time to test the
> image. My test image is 3.9final. I now just installed Shout, changed to
> demo font mode, typed in a new class with one simple method and forked
> this method in a new process. However, the method writes something on
> transcript and returns. After that I get the slow down for text
> typing... That took me 5 minutes without any special plugins with 3.9.2
> vm... Alt-period does nothing but intercept the ui process, so its no
> help either.
>
> However, in a fully clean image it doesn't occur....
>
> Greets, Martin
>
>