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johnmci

New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I accepted and have strived to carry forward.

But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him already from his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG conferences, and the awards he has won for his technical innovations.

It's been a fun decade & three month, lots of versions were created, Apple unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and excitement, now they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for someone new and eager to figure out how to address that. Over that decade we've moved from 68040 based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel, and from OS-9 thru 7 generations of OS-X.

On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially support the macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any difficulties in the migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that letter from Dan, it's steeped with responsibility, a bit of honour, expectations of hours (decades?) of work, and I assure Esteban a great journey. Today for Esteban I consolidated folders of Squeak VM build memories which came to nearly 6GB of stuff, fortunately most of it is obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5 rewrite.

I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the rough times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt I'll watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens will lie elsewhere.

Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak & Smalltalk? No it's just a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and at this time I welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me if you have leads...

Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have provide some funding for this work, I thank them for their contributions.

Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years [hidden email] who has diligently support my contributions to the Smalltalk community and as a non computer person always wondered why? For Sophie we had a saying: "For the betterment of mankind" . For the folks who worked on Smalltalk, Sophie, and the OLPC they know why we do this.

To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I would do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go....

-
===========================================================================
John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter: squeaker68882
Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
===========================================================================

David T. Lewis

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 05:42:07PM -0800, John M McIntosh wrote:
> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from
>John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which
> I accepted and have strived to carry forward.
>
> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban Lorenzano
> to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him already from
> his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG conferences,
> and the awards he has won for his technical innovations.

John, thank you so much for all that you have contributed and worked for
in this community. I look forward to your future involvement in whatever
capacity you may choose.

Esteban, thank for volunteering to take on this work. It is great to see
that John's efforts will be carried forward in good hands. Thank you.

Dave

Raymond Asselin-3

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

Le 2010-11-21 à 20:42, John M McIntosh a écrit :

> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from John Maloney.
> ...
> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility.
...
> I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the rough times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt I'll watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens will lie elsewhere.
> ..snip...

A very good thank to you John for all your work. I wish you all kind of good things in your new role.

bpi

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

Dear John,

Thank you for everything you did for the Squeak community so far. You have been one of the pillars on which this inspirational environment is built. I have used your great VMs since you took over.

Esteban, thanks for taking over this responsibility. Especially since it will be difficult to live up to the standard John set. And it will be a lot of work, too. I am looking forward to your plans.

I wish both of you all the best.

- Bernhard

Am 22.11.2010 um 02:42 schrieb John M McIntosh:

> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I accepted and have strived to carry forward.
>
> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him already from his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG conferences, and the awards he has won for his technical innovations.
...

ccrraaiigg

re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

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Thanks, John.

-C

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garduino

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

John: Even when I'm not a Mac user I know all the big effort related
with be the maintainer of a VM. Thanks by your contribution John,
really a big big one.

Esteban: Congratulations by you new role, I think is totally deserved
to you and also very important to the Argentinian Smalltalk community.

Germán.

2010/11/21 John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>:

> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I accepted and have strived to carry forward.
>
> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him already from his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG conferences, and the awards he has won for his technical innovations.
>
> It's been a fun decade & three month, lots of versions were created, Apple unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and excitement, now they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for someone new and eager to figure out how to address that. Over that decade we've moved from 68040 based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel, and from OS-9 thru 7 generations of OS-X.
>
> On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially support the macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any difficulties in the migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that letter from Dan, it's steeped with responsibility, a bit of honour, expectations of hours (decades?) of work, and I assure Esteban a great journey. Today for Esteban I consolidated folders of Squeak VM build memories which came to nearly 6GB of stuff, fortunately most of it is obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5 rewrite.
>
> I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the rough times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt I'll watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens will lie elsewhere.
>
> Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak & Smalltalk? No it's just a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and at this time I welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me if you have leads...
>
> Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have provide some funding for this work, I thank them for their contributions.
>
> Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years [hidden email] who has diligently support my contributions to the Smalltalk community and as a non computer person always wondered why? For Sophie we had a saying: "For the betterment of mankind" . For the folks who worked on Smalltalk, Sophie, and the OLPC they know why we do this.
>
> To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I would do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go....
>
> -
> ===========================================================================
> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter: squeaker68882
> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
> ===========================================================================
>
>
>
>
>
>

Alexandre Bergel

Re: [Pharo-project] New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

Thanks John!

Alexandre

On 21 Nov 2010, at 22:42, John M McIntosh wrote:

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Edgar De Cleene

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

On 11/21/10 11:42 PM, "John M McIntosh" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from John
> Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I accepted
> and have strived to carry forward.
>
> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban Lorenzano
> to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him already from his
> role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG conferences, and
> the awards he has won for his technical innovations.
>
> It's been a fun decade & three month, lots of versions were created, Apple
> unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and excitement, now
> they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for someone new and eager
> to figure out how to address that. Over that decade we've moved from 68040
> based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel, and from OS-9 thru 7 generations of
> OS-X.
>
> On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially support
> the macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any difficulties in the
> migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that letter from Dan, it's
> steeped with responsibility, a bit of honour, expectations of hours (decades?)
> of work, and I assure Esteban a great journey. Today for Esteban I
> consolidated folders of Squeak VM build memories which came to nearly 6GB of
> stuff, fortunately most of it is obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5
> rewrite.
>
> I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the rough
> times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt I'll watch
> how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens will lie
> elsewhere.
>
> Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak & Smalltalk? No it's just
> a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and at this
> time I welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me if you have
> leads...
>
> Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have provide
> some funding for this work, I thank them for their contributions.
>
> Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years [hidden email]
> who has diligently support my contributions to the Smalltalk community and as
> a non computer person always wondered why? For Sophie we had a saying: "For
> the betterment of mankind" . For the folks who worked on Smalltalk, Sophie,
> and the OLPC they know why we do this.
>
> To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I would
> do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go....
>
> -
> ===========================================================================
> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter: squeaker68882
> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
> ===========================================================================
>
>
>
>

It's the way life go on, miss you and say MUCHAS GRACIAS JOHN.
And of course, welcome Esteban

Edgar

Ron Teitelbaum

RE: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

What a loss of order in the universe. McIntosh building the Macintosh VM
just works so much better than Lorenzano.

Thanks for all your work John! Thank you for volunteering Esteban!

Ron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 8:42 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Cc: [hidden email] Development
> Subject: [squeak-dev] New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban
> Lorenzano
>
> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from
> John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I
> accepted and have strived to carry forward.
>
> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban

Lorenzano
> to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him already from
his
> role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG conferences,
and

> the awards he has won for his technical innovations.
>
> It's been a fun decade & three month, lots of versions were created, Apple
> unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and excitement,
> now they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for someone new
> and eager to figure out how to address that. Over that decade we've moved
> from 68040 based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel, and from OS-9 thru 7
> generations of OS-X.
>
> On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially

support the
> macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any difficulties in the
> migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that letter from Dan, it's
steeped
> with responsibility, a bit of honour, expectations of hours (decades?) of
> work, and I assure Esteban a great journey. Today for Esteban I
consolidated
> folders of Squeak VM build memories which came to nearly 6GB of stuff,
> fortunately most of it is obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5 rewrite.
>
> I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the rough
> times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt I'll
> watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens will
lie
> elsewhere.
>
> Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak & Smalltalk? No it's
just
> a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and at
this time I
> welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me if you have
leads...
>
> Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have
> provide some funding for this work, I thank them for their contributions.
>
> Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years
> [hidden email] who has diligently support my contributions to the
> Smalltalk community and as a non computer person always wondered why?
> For Sophie we had a saying: "For the betterment of mankind" . For the
folks
> who worked on Smalltalk, Sophie, and the OLPC they know why we do this.
>
> To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I
would

> do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go....
>
> -
> ==========================================================
> =================
> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter:
> squeaker68882
> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
> ==========================================================
> =================
>
>
>
>

EstebanLM

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

Hi,
Thank you all for all your best wishes... I know, John work will be
really hard to match, but he wants to pass the responsibility, and I
accepted because he promise to guide me for awhile, until I can build
the mac vm's... Of course, I have A LOT of things to learn, before been
a good builder, but I'll do my best, so, please, be kind... it will
take time, until the role is fullfilled in a satisfactory way :)

Now, for the coming work, I thought on what would be the first steps...
these are my ideas:

1) Create a hudson configuration for the vms, so it can be built
automatically. Of course, there are two problems here:
a) we need a good test batery, and the vm has not. To solve this, I
think the pharo tests will ne a good "starting vm suite": If the tests
succed, we can hope the vm "more or less" works.
b) we need a mac hudson server. Maybe pharo guys can help here, but I dunno...

1.1) Infraestructure: we need a place were publish new built vms
(John's place does not have sense any more)... do you know a place. I
suppose squeakvm.org is a good place, but maybe not. Any idea?

2) 4.x series are obsolete, I will focus my work on keep up-to-date 5.x
series. Merge with cog is very important here :)
Also, I want to work with Eliot on his vmmaker code generation changes,
but this will take more time as the code generation insights are triky.

3) Keep the vm working with new changes introduced by apple. Next year
will be Lion, and before that, the new app. store...

So, I think I have a lot of work to begin... please let me know if
there are important things I'm missing.

NOTE: As I'm learning, please, when you commit something in VMMaker who
needs a special mac treatment, make a comment so I can know it...
otherwise the change can be lost in the limbo...

And, finally, I want to say we are all going to miss you John, and I
more than anybody!

Cheers,
Esteban

pd: btw... I will need write permission on squeakvm.org... do you know
who I need to ask for?

On 2010-11-21 22:42:07 -0300, John M McIntosh
<[hidden email]> said:

> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from
> John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which
> I accepted and have strived to carry forward.
>
> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban
> Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him
> already from his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at
> ESUG conferences, and the awards he has won for his technical
> innovations.
>
> It's been a fun decade & three month, lots of versions were created,
> Apple unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and
> excitement, now they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for
> someone new and eager to figure out how to address that. Over that
> decade we've moved from 68040 based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel,
> and from OS-9 thru 7 generations of OS-X.
>
> On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially
> support the macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any
> difficulties in the migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that
> letter from Dan, it's steeped with responsibility, a bit of honour,
> expectations of hours (decades?) of work, and I assure Esteban a great
> journey. Today for Esteban I consolidated folders of Squeak VM build
> memories which came to nearly 6GB of stuff, fortunately most of it is
> obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5 rewrite.
>
> I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the
> rough times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt
> I'll watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens
> will lie elsewhere.
>
> Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak & Smalltalk? No it's
> just a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and
> at this time I welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me
> if you have leads...
>
> Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have
> provide some funding for this work, I thank them for their
> contributions.
>
> Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years
> [hidden email] who has diligently support my contributions to the
> Smalltalk community and as a non computer person always wondered why?
> For Sophie we had a saying: "For the betterment of mankind" . For the
> folks who worked on Smalltalk, Sophie, and the OLPC they know why we do
> this.
>
> To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I
> would do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go....
>
> -
>
> =========================
> =========================
> =========================
>
> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter:
> squeaker68882
> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>
> =========================
> =========================
> =========================

EstebanLM

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

Bert Freudenberg

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

On 23.11.2010, at 00:22, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

> Hi,
> Thank you all for all your best wishes... I know, John work will be really hard to match, but he wants to pass the responsibility, and I accepted because he promise to guide me for awhile, until I can build the mac vm's... Of course, I have A LOT of things to learn, before been a good builder, but I'll do my best, so, please, be kind... it will take time, until the role is fullfilled in a satisfactory way :)

Thank you for stepping up to this important task!

> Now, for the coming work, I thought on what would be the first steps... these are my ideas:
>
> 1) Create a hudson configuration for the vms, so it can be built automatically. Of course, there are two problems here:
> a) we need a good test batery, and the vm has not. To solve this, I think the pharo tests will ne a good "starting vm suite": If the tests succed, we can hope the vm "more or less" works.
> b) we need a mac hudson server. Maybe pharo guys can help here, but I dunno...
>
> 1.1) Infraestructure: we need a place were publish new built vms (John's place does not have sense any more)... do you know a place. I suppose squeakvm.org is a good place, but maybe not. Any idea?

We are in the process of moving the VM sources and downloads to Google Code:

http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm/

I just added you :)

> 2) 4.x series are obsolete, I will focus my work on keep up-to-date 5.x series. Merge with cog is very important here :)
> Also, I want to work with Eliot on his vmmaker code generation changes, but this will take more time as the code generation insights are triky.
>
> 3) Keep the vm working with new changes introduced by apple. Next year will be Lion, and before that, the new app. store...
>
> So, I think I have a lot of work to begin... please let me know if there are important things I'm missing.

Well, the one thing I'd like to point out is that I don't consider the 4.x series obsolete yet. It's the only one that still supports PowerPC Macs which are still in use in many schools that use Etoys and Scratch. Also, quite a few older projects do not have closure-images yet. It would be good if you could at least keep the 4.x series alive, even if new development concentrates on 5.x/Cog.

- Bert -

> NOTE: As I'm learning, please, when you commit something in VMMaker who needs a special mac treatment, make a comment so I can know it... otherwise the change can be lost in the limbo...
>
> And, finally, I want to say we are all going to miss you John, and I more than anybody!
>
> Cheers,
> Esteban
>
> pd: btw... I will need write permission on squeakvm.org... do you know who I need to ask for?
>
> On 2010-11-21 22:42:07 -0300, John M McIntosh <[hidden email]> said:
>
>> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from
>> John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which
>> I accepted and have strived to carry forward.
>> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban
>> Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him
>> already from his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at
>> ESUG conferences, and the awards he has won for his technical
>> innovations.
>> It's been a fun decade & three month, lots of versions were created,
>> Apple unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and
>> excitement, now they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for
>> someone new and eager to figure out how to address that. Over that
>> decade we've moved from 68040 based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel,
>> and from OS-9 thru 7 generations of OS-X.
>> On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially
>> support the macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any
>> difficulties in the migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that
>> letter from Dan, it's steeped with responsibility, a bit of honour,
>> expectations of hours (decades?) of work, and I assure Esteban a great
>> journey. Today for Esteban I consolidated folders of Squeak VM build
>> memories which came to nearly 6GB of stuff, fortunately most of it is
>> obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5 rewrite.
>> I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the
>> rough times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt
>> I'll watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens
>> will lie elsewhere.
>> Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak & Smalltalk? No it's
>> just a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and
>> at this time I welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me
>> if you have leads...
>> Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have
>> provide some funding for this work, I thank them for their
>> contributions.
>> Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years
>> [hidden email] who has diligently support my contributions to the
>> Smalltalk community and as a non computer person always wondered why?
>> For Sophie we had a saying: "For the betterment of mankind" . For the
>> folks who worked on Smalltalk, Sophie, and the OLPC they know why we do
>> this.
>> To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I
>> would do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go....
>> -
>> =========================
>> =========================
>> =========================
>> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Twitter:
>> squeaker68882
>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
>> =========================
>> =========================
>> =========================
>
>
>
>

David T. Lewis

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 08:22:30PM -0300, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

> Hi,
> Thank you all for all your best wishes... I know, John work will be
> really hard to match, but he wants to pass the responsibility, and I
> accepted because he promise to guide me for awhile, until I can build
> the mac vm's... Of course, I have A LOT of things to learn, before been
> a good builder, but I'll do my best, so, please, be kind... it will
> take time, until the role is fullfilled in a satisfactory way :)
>
> Now, for the coming work, I thought on what would be the first steps...
> these are my ideas:
>
> 1) Create a hudson configuration for the vms, so it can be built
> automatically. Of course, there are two problems here:
> a) we need a good test batery, and the vm has not. To solve this, I
> think the pharo tests will ne a good "starting vm suite": If the tests
> succed, we can hope the vm "more or less" works.
> b) we need a mac hudson server. Maybe pharo guys can help here, but I
> dunno...
>
> 1.1) Infraestructure: we need a place were publish new built vms
> (John's place does not have sense any more)... do you know a place. I
> suppose squeakvm.org is a good place, but maybe not. Any idea?
>
> 2) 4.x series are obsolete, I will focus my work on keep up-to-date 5.x
> series. Merge with cog is very important here :)
> Also, I want to work with Eliot on his vmmaker code generation changes,
> but this will take more time as the code generation insights are triky.
>
> 3) Keep the vm working with new changes introduced by apple. Next year
> will be Lion, and before that, the new app. store...
>
> So, I think I have a lot of work to begin... please let me know if
> there are important things I'm missing.
>
> NOTE: As I'm learning, please, when you commit something in VMMaker who
> needs a special mac treatment, make a comment so I can know it...
> otherwise the change can be lost in the limbo...
>
> And, finally, I want to say we are all going to miss you John, and I
> more than anybody!
>
> Cheers,
> Esteban
>
> pd: btw... I will need write permission on squeakvm.org... do you know
> who I need to ask for?

Hi Esteban,

Ian Piumarta maintains the squeakvm.org site and will give you whatever
access you need. You can write to him directly at piumarta at speakeasy.net
(and I cc'ed him on this note).

Dave

Stefan Marr

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

Hi Esteban:

On 23 Nov 2010, at 00:22, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

> a) we need a good test batery, and the vm has not. To solve this, I think the pharo tests will ne a good "starting vm suite": If the tests succed, we can hope the vm "more or less" works.
That would be very interesting to me, too.
I have a Buildbot running to do the testing for our RoarVM. I also want some performance regression tests.
But buildbot aside, a good suite of tests for the VM is also something I am looking for.
Currently, I am setting up some small things based on shell scripts that interact with a minimal scripting framework in our image.
Perhaps, we could find a way to steer our efforts in the same direction.

Thanks and best regards
Stefan

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LawsonEnglish

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

I add my voice to the chorus of thanks. While very few people outside
the squeak community know of your work, I think you've benefited every
Mac user, not just the relative few who use squeak directly.

Lawson

On 11/21/10 6:42 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:

> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I accepted and have strived to carry forward.
>
> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him already from his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG conferences, and the awards he has won for his technical innovations.
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> It's been a fun decade& three month, lots of versions were created, Apple unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and excitement, now they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for someone new and eager to figure out how to address that. Over that decade we've moved from 68040 based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel, and from OS-9 thru 7 generations of OS-X.
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> On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially support the macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any difficulties in the migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that letter from Dan, it's steeped with responsibility, a bit of honour, expectations of hours (decades?) of work, and I assure Esteban a great journey. Today for Esteban I consolidated folders of Squeak VM build memories which came to nearly 6GB of stuff, fortunately most of it is obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5 rewrite.
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> I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the rough times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt I'll watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens will lie elsewhere.
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> Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak& Smalltalk? No it's just a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and at this time I welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me if you have leads...
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> Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have provide some funding for this work, I thank them for their contributions.
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> Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years [hidden email] who has diligently support my contributions to the Smalltalk community and as a non computer person always wondered why? For Sophie we had a saying: "For the betterment of mankind" . For the folks who worked on Smalltalk, Sophie, and the OLPC they know why we do this.
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> To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I would do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go....
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lagudu

Re: New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

In reply to this post by johnmci

A very big thank you John. I have been using your VMs for the last 8
years. Great work.

arul

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 7:12 AM, John M McIntosh
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I accepted and have strived to carry forward.