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Not getting all mail?

Jakob Reschke
Hello,

Over the past week I have observed people reply to some messages that I didn't receive from the list. For example, I do not have Christoph's message to which Eliot replied below. In one instance it even looked like I did not get the original post, but only a reply. I checked my spam folder, there are no Squeak mails in there.

Do you experience the same? Or do I just always see cases where one person did not reply to the list, but the next one does again?

Kind regards,
Jakob


Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo., 14. Sep. 2020, 21:49:


On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Thiede, Christoph <[hidden email]> wrote:

Which completion are you using? Autocompletion already behaves like this.


OComplete


Best,

Christoph


Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>
Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 04:45:30
An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Betreff: [squeak-dev] autocomplete exit
 
Hi,

   would it be possible to make autocomplete exit whenever a non-selector character was typed, or at least when an arrow key was typed?

_,,,^..^,,,_
best, Eliot




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Re: Not getting all mail?

Tobias Pape

> On 17.09.2020, at 07:54, Jakob Reschke <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Over the past week I have observed people reply to some messages that I didn't receive from the list. For example, I do not have Christoph's message to which Eliot replied below. In one instance it even looked like I did not get the original post, but only a reply. I checked my spam folder, there are no Squeak mails in there.
>
> Do you experience the same? Or do I just always see cases where one person did not reply to the list, but the next one does again?

Jep, same here.
-t

>
> Kind regards,
> Jakob
>
>
> Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo., 14. Sep. 2020, 21:49:
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Thiede, Christoph <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Which completion are you using? Autocompletion already behaves like this.
>
>
> OComplete
>
> Best,
>
> Christoph
>
> Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>
> Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 04:45:30
> An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Betreff: [squeak-dev] autocomplete exit
>  
> Hi,
>
>    would it be possible to make autocomplete exit whenever a non-selector character was typed, or at least when an arrow key was typed?
>
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot
>
>
>



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Re: Not getting all mail?

David T. Lewis
I received three messages with subject line "autocomplete exit", including
the one from Christoph.

The archives are a reliable way to check what mail messages were distributed,
and I see the same thres messages there:

  http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2020-September/subject.html

Dave

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 01:23:33PM +0200, Tobias Pape wrote:

>
> > On 17.09.2020, at 07:54, Jakob Reschke <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Over the past week I have observed people reply to some messages that I didn't receive from the list. For example, I do not have Christoph's message to which Eliot replied below. In one instance it even looked like I did not get the original post, but only a reply. I checked my spam folder, there are no Squeak mails in there.
> >
> > Do you experience the same? Or do I just always see cases where one person did not reply to the list, but the next one does again?
>
> Jep, same here.
> -t
>
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Jakob
> >
> >
> > Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo., 14. Sep. 2020, 21:49:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Thiede, Christoph <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Which completion are you using? Autocompletion already behaves like this.
> >
> >
> > OComplete
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Christoph
> >
> > Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>
> > Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 04:45:30
> > An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> > Betreff: [squeak-dev] autocomplete exit
> >  
> > Hi,
> >
> >    would it be possible to make autocomplete exit whenever a non-selector character was typed, or at least when an arrow key was typed?
> >
> > _,,,^..^,,,_
> > best, Eliot
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: Not getting all mail?

Levente Uzonyi
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Hi Jakob,

Your mail server considered that email to be spam. It happened to many
other emails on that day and also today. And it also happend to a few
others using the same email provider.


Levente

On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Jakob Reschke wrote:

> Hello,
> Over the past week I have observed people reply to some messages that I didn't receive from the list. For example, I do not have Christoph's message to which Eliot replied below. In one instance it even looked like I did not
> get the original post, but only a reply. I checked my spam folder, there are no Squeak mails in there.
>
> Do you experience the same? Or do I just always see cases where one person did not reply to the list, but the next one does again?
>
> Kind regards,
> Jakob
>
>
> Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo., 14. Sep. 2020, 21:49:
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Thiede, Christoph <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>       Which completion are you using? Autocompletion already behaves like this.
>
>
> OComplete
>
>
>       Best,
>
>       Christoph
>
> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>
> Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 04:45:30
> An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Betreff: [squeak-dev] autocomplete exit  
> Hi,
>    would it be possible to make autocomplete exit whenever a non-selector character was typed, or at least when an arrow key was typed?
>
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot
>
>
>
>

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Re: Not getting all mail?

Tobias Pape

> On 17.09.2020, at 23:23, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Jakob,
>
> Your mail server considered that email to be spam. It happened to many other emails on that day and also today. And it also happend to a few others using the same email provider.

I have taken action.
I have requested to remove our mailserver from the barracuda spam detection list.
I have purged all deferred mails, retried mails, removed all bounces and pending messages to all lists.
Let's hope that gets us back to normal.

We need someone watch the mailserver once in a while…

-t

>
>
> Levente
>
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Jakob Reschke wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Over the past week I have observed people reply to some messages that I didn't receive from the list. For example, I do not have Christoph's message to which Eliot replied below. In one instance it even looked like I did not
>> get the original post, but only a reply. I checked my spam folder, there are no Squeak mails in there.
>> Do you experience the same? Or do I just always see cases where one person did not reply to the list, but the next one does again?
>> Kind regards,
>> Jakob
>> Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo., 14. Sep. 2020, 21:49:
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Thiede, Christoph <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>      Which completion are you using? Autocompletion already behaves like this.
>> OComplete
>>
>>      Best,
>>
>>      Christoph
>> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>> Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 04:45:30
>> An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>> Betreff: [squeak-dev] autocomplete exit  
>> Hi,
>>    would it be possible to make autocomplete exit whenever a non-selector character was typed, or at least when an arrow key was typed?
>> _,,,^..^,,,_
>> best, Eliot
>



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Re: Not getting all mail?

Jakob Reschke
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Thank you Levente.

Well, I still do not receive all mail and the missing messages do not
appear in my Strato inbox (to which this address belongs) in the spam
folder either. Whom should I contact, the Strato support?

@Tobias Pape Did your action already improve the situation for you?

Correspondingly, I have received absolutely no replies to this thread
via the list, only Levente's direct message. *sigh*

Kind regards,
Jakob

Am Do., 17. Sept. 2020 um 23:36 Uhr schrieb Levente Uzonyi
<[hidden email]>:

>
> Hi Jakob,
>
> Your mail server considered that email to be spam. It happened to many
> other emails on that day and also today. And it also happend to a few
> others using the same email provider.
>
>
> Levente
>
> P.S.: I saw that your mail server rejected my mail on the list as well, so
> I'm sending this directly to you.
>
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Jakob Reschke wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Over the past week I have observed people reply to some messages that I didn't receive from the list. For example, I do not have Christoph's message to which Eliot replied below. In one instance it even looked like I did not
> > get the original post, but only a reply. I checked my spam folder, there are no Squeak mails in there.
> >
> > Do you experience the same? Or do I just always see cases where one person did not reply to the list, but the next one does again?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Jakob
> >
> >
> > Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo., 14. Sep. 2020, 21:49:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Thiede, Christoph <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >       Which completion are you using? Autocompletion already behaves like this.
> >
> >
> > OComplete
> >
> >
> >       Best,
> >
> >       Christoph
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> > Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>
> > Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 04:45:30
> > An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> > Betreff: [squeak-dev] autocomplete exit
> > Hi,
> >    would it be possible to make autocomplete exit whenever a non-selector character was typed, or at least when an arrow key was typed?
> >
> > _,,,^..^,,,_
> > best, Eliot
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Re: Not getting all mail?

Levente Uzonyi
Hi Jakob,

On Sun, 20 Sep 2020, Jakob Reschke wrote:

> Thank you Levente.
>
> Well, I still do not receive all mail and the missing messages do not
> appear in my Strato inbox (to which this address belongs) in the spam
> folder either. Whom should I contact, the Strato support?

Hard to answer. Your mail provider straight out rejected the emails, so
the mails had no chance to appear in your spam folder.
They very likely use barracudacentral's blocklist, but the mail server
did not mention why it blocks the messages. This is the response of the
mail server:

550 5.7.1 Refused by local policy. No SPAM please! (B-EX
149500::1600587459-000088D1-6E70BDDC/10/35787913868) see
https://www.strato.com/faq/en_us/article/2420

The link there is super unhelpful. It says:

Your email violates the filter and/or spam rules of the respective
recipient.
Please check if your email contains content which could be identified as
spam.

Perhaps that identifier (B-EX
149500::1600587459-000088D1-6E70BDDC/10/35787913868) may help you get
answer from your provider why they are blocking the emails.

>
> @Tobias Pape Did your action already improve the situation for you?
>
> Correspondingly, I have received absolutely no replies to this thread
> via the list, only Levente's direct message. *sigh*

Yes, they are still blocking mails to your address (and others'
addresses).


Levente

>
> Kind regards,
> Jakob
>
> Am Do., 17. Sept. 2020 um 23:36 Uhr schrieb Levente Uzonyi
> <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> Hi Jakob,
>>
>> Your mail server considered that email to be spam. It happened to many
>> other emails on that day and also today. And it also happend to a few
>> others using the same email provider.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>> P.S.: I saw that your mail server rejected my mail on the list as well, so
>> I'm sending this directly to you.
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Jakob Reschke wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Over the past week I have observed people reply to some messages that I didn't receive from the list. For example, I do not have Christoph's message to which Eliot replied below. In one instance it even looked like I did not
>>> get the original post, but only a reply. I checked my spam folder, there are no Squeak mails in there.
>>>
>>> Do you experience the same? Or do I just always see cases where one person did not reply to the list, but the next one does again?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Jakob
>>>
>>>
>>> Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> schrieb am Mo., 14. Sep. 2020, 21:49:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:54 AM Thiede, Christoph <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>       Which completion are you using? Autocompletion already behaves like this.
>>>
>>>
>>> OComplete
>>>
>>>
>>>       Best,
>>>
>>>       Christoph
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>> Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>
>>> Gesendet: Montag, 14. September 2020 04:45:30
>>> An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>>> Betreff: [squeak-dev] autocomplete exit
>>> Hi,
>>>    would it be possible to make autocomplete exit whenever a non-selector character was typed, or at least when an arrow key was typed?
>>>
>>> _,,,^..^,,,_
>>> best, Eliot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>