> A colleague of mine is trying to order one (err... a pair ;-)), but it
> seems that the Give One, Get One program is only geared towards > US&Canada? > > Dying to get my hands on one... What I heard was that to distribute such a unit, you need to get radio device approval and other kind of approval (for instance, the AC and (I think) the battery need government approval in Japan.) It is not as simple as sending units to overseas customers... -- Yoshiki |
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> I just ordered 12 of them (on the buy one give one program). They are planned for my kids, as well as Christmas
> presents for some other kids (relatives). My kid's school will have > to wait. :-) Great! -- Yoshiki |
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Ah. Makes sense.
damn.... :P On Nov 12, 2007 5:19 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote: > > A colleague of mine is trying to order one (err... a pair ;-)), but it > > seems that the Give One, Get One program is only geared towards > > US&Canada? > > > > Dying to get my hands on one... > > What I heard was that to distribute such a unit, you need to get > radio device approval and other kind of approval (for instance, the AC > and (I think) the battery need government approval in Japan.) It is > not as simple as sending units to overseas customers... > > -- Yoshiki > > -- "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom. " - Death, in "The Hogfather" |
I hear EU certification is almost done. To quote the latest OLPC
community news letter: "Safety Certification: Behind the scenes another team (from UL, Quanta, and OLPC) has been quietly working for nearly two years on XO safety certification. The XO laptop is now fully compliant with UL safety requirements and has been thus certified. We have also been awarded radio, power, and system certification at national levels in several countries. We can now legally ship in US, Canada, Uruguay, and Peru, as well as many other countries. EU-wide approval is due in approximately a week. We are still in the process of applying for certification in countries on each continent with the most stringent safety standards. Among many tests, we have passed Ul/IEC 60950-1 (notebook computer), ASTM F693 (electronic toys for children), UL 1301 (mechanical assembly requirements, including larger face dimension requirements for child safety) and UL 2054 (batteries), as well as a passing UL on-site inspection of the Quanta's factory. We have formal RoHS (low toxicity) certification from Quanta, and independent testing of RoHS compliance by UL. Also, we have been safety approved for lap use—XO is the first "laptop" approved for usage on one's lap in many years. (The reason that most laptops are now called "notebook computers" is that they run too hot for safe lap use.)" Also, it may be possible to order via a mail-forwarding service. See http://www.olpcnews.com/sales_talk/g1g1/give_one_get_one_globally.html - Bert - On Nov 12, 2007, at 17:40 , Cees de Groot wrote: > Ah. Makes sense. > > damn.... :P > > On Nov 12, 2007 5:19 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> A colleague of mine is trying to order one (err... a pair ;-)), >>> but it >>> seems that the Give One, Get One program is only geared towards >>> US&Canada? >>> >>> Dying to get my hands on one... >> >> What I heard was that to distribute such a unit, you need to get >> radio device approval and other kind of approval (for instance, >> the AC >> and (I think) the battery need government approval in Japan.) It is >> not as simple as sending units to overseas customers... >> >> -- Yoshiki >> >> > > > > -- > "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know, that in a > universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom. " - > Death, in "The Hogfather" > |
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I can't agree more Alan. There is no match for the sincere team work. And
I'm pretty sure there are something special in the experience of a team work that prioritizes braincells instead of muscle (not to mention bullets, etc). Without doubt efforts to maintain empowering that priority is virtuous. cheers ! Sebastian Sastre > -----Mensaje original----- > De: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] En > nombre de Alan Kay > Enviado el: Domingo, 11 de Noviembre de 2007 13:16 > Para: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; 'The > general-purpose Squeak developers list' > CC: 'Squeakland list'; 'etoys' > Asunto: Re: A Hero for One Laptop Per Child (RE: [Etoys] OLPC > mass production started) > > I would be very disappointed, even appalled, to see my name > as a hero here. The notion of a "Hero" seems to be partly > built into human nervous systems and is a favorite trope in > stories. This idea seriously distorted and masked how Xerox > PARC actually worked, for example. > > OLPC has been making progress because quite a few talented > people decided to take responsibility for different needs of > the project. I am very proud of the Viewpoints researchers > who really got behind this because they believed in it. > > So there are a lot of heros, if that is the word. I think of > it more as "there are a lot of enlightened people" and it > bodes well for humanity when they decide to take action. > > Cheers. > > Alan > > > At 07:42 PM 11/10/2007, SmallSqueak wrote: > >Hi Alan, > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [hidden email] > > > [mailto:squeak-dev- [hidden email]] > On Behalf Of > > > Alan Kay > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:33 AM > > > To: [hidden email]; Bert Freudenberg > > > Cc: Squeakland list; etoys; The general-purpose Squeak developers > > > list > > > Subject: Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started > > > > > > Yay! > > > > > > Cheers to all! > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > >I searched for "One Laptop Per Child Hero" and expected to see your > >name or Negroponte. > > > >To my dismay, Google returned a complete stranger to me, Masi Oka. > > > >Do you know why OLPC appointed Masi Oka, an actor and > special effects > >specialist, as its Global Ambassador to sell its 400US$ > "Give One Get One" > >computers. > > > >Is the campaign "Give One Get One" the hero's idea? > > > >Cheers, > > > >PhiHo. > > |
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> As far as I know, it is not a job. Making PSA usually means that it > is done at no charge. > I don't know what to say. To the best of my knowledge there are different kinds of jobs: 1/- Paid jobs (paid with salary, wages, commission...) 2/- Volunteer jobs (not materially compensated) 3/- Paying jobs (one has to pay to accomplish the job oneself) Paid jobs as Smalltalk programming, consulting, sales, marketing... Volunteer job is still a job. There is a job to be done for a public service announcer(PSA?) or a volunteer global ambassador (GA). This begs the question, how many volunteered for this GA job? Now, for the paying job, those who care about ANSI Smalltalk and want to actively shape it, they have to pay to accomplish that job themselves ;-) There is a "paying job" that almost all of human being sooner or later will have to pay to accomplish it oneself. Here is an anecdote of an aspect of this job (please be warned of crude words ahead, a lot of F words, viewer's discretion is advised and for adults only): http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5jlrxcpkI > At the holiday season, people, even including talent agencies, feel > to do some generous activity, such as helping OLPC. > > The G1G1 program did change the landscape. Some stuff Nicholas said > last year don't apply to the situation now. > > http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/23/business/laptop24.php > > -- Yoshiki > Cheers, PhiHo. |
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev- > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan Kay > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:16 AM > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; 'The general-purpose Squeak > developers list' > Cc: 'Squeakland list'; 'etoys' > Subject: Re: A Hero for One Laptop Per Child (RE: [Etoys] OLPC mass > production started) > > > I would be very disappointed, even appalled, to see my name as a hero > here. > The notion of a "Hero" seems to be partly built into human > nervous systems This is especially true for children mind. > and is a favorite trope in stories. Children stories are filled with all kinds of heroes. Many a child brings her unfulfilled wishes into her dreams where the heroes come along to give her "dream come true", in the dreams. Think of the scenario where tens of millions of these children are empowered with those XO (pre-loaded with all those 'dream come true'.) One wouldn't be surprised to see them invoking the incantation "Google, Google on the screen, who is the Hero for OLPC". > This idea seriously distorted and masked how Xerox PARC actually worked, > for example. > > OLPC has been making progress because quite a few talented people > decided to take responsibility for different needs of the project. I > am very proud of the Viewpoints researchers who really got behind > this because they believed in it. > > So there are a lot of heros, if that is the word. I think of it more > as "there are a lot of enlightened people" and it bodes well for > humanity when they decide to take action. > That sounds like what's described in this ancient Oriental proverb: "Following The Elephant's footsteps". > Cheers. > > Alan > Cheers, PhiHo. P.S: There is also another proverb, to reflect the facts of life: "Following The Elephant's footsteps, to collect bagasse". And it's so hard to separate the wheat from the chaff! P.P.S: >From your point of view (I am assuming that XO is a PC), how far is that OLPC XO going with the vision: "The PC Must Be Revamped-Now" (February 14, 2007) http://www.cioinsight.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=200162,00.asp OLPC XO must be your best bet to see your dream come true, yes ? In that article, there was a mention to Squeak as "an object-oriented operating system" and another "operating system for children" : <QUOTE> Squeak, an object-oriented operating system and authoring environment, is actually the Xerox PARC Smalltalk operating system, upgraded to 32-bit graphics with other things added. My research group at Apple did it about ten years ago, because we were afraid that Java wasn't going to be compatible from computer to computer. Because we made our own software tools at Xerox PARC, and we had some of the same people who had done these tools, we decided we'd be much safer if we just made our own vehicle. At Viewpoints and Hewlett-Packard, we built an operating system for children, and also did many experiments in user-interface design and built new kinds of object models and other kinds of things called Etoys. </QUOTE> I am utterly confused with the terminology here. Squeak is an OOOS, built on top of SOS? What makes it so? (or did you mean SqueakNOS, NOT Squeak ?) What is this "Children Operating System" ? Is it built on top of Squeak OOOS ? (It isn't Etoys, is it?) Was it your original vision that Smalltalk be Children Programming Language ? Is this COS written in the CPL ? Would you please elaborate on this COS. It sounds very interesting. It is especially so in the context of OLPC. P.P.P.S: SOS stands for Suckers' Operating Systems (like Bluebottle, Fedora, Leopard, Vista ... ;-) > > At 07:42 PM 11/10/2007, SmallSqueak wrote: > >Hi Alan, > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev- > > > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Alan Kay > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:33 AM > > > To: [hidden email]; Bert Freudenberg > > > Cc: Squeakland list; etoys; The general-purpose Squeak developers list > > > Subject: Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started > > > > > > Yay! > > > > > > Cheers to all! > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > >I searched for "One Laptop Per Child Hero" and expected to see your name > or > >Negroponte. > > > >To my dismay, Google returned a complete stranger to me, Masi Oka. > > > >Do you know why OLPC appointed Masi Oka, an actor and special effects > >specialist, as its Global Ambassador to sell its 400US$ "Give One Get One" > >computers. > > > >Is the campaign "Give One Get One" the hero's idea? > > > >Cheers, > > > >PhiHo. > > |
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