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Hi folks,
I am thinking of you all at Squeakfest this week and thought I'd try to install/play with the OLPC-Etoys that was advertised on the Squeakfest site. Downloading that .zip file and unzipping it, I followed the terse README and dragged 'etoys.image' onto 'Squeakland.app', but nothing happened, i.e. Etoys didn't pop up. Still being a somewhat newbie in OSX, could someone offer up some clues? Previously, I had downloaded etoys from squeakland and that ran fine on my Mac. Fwiw, I'm running OSX 10.4.10 and have: ~/dev/Education/OLPC$ ll total 89264 drwxr-xr-x 25 heiland heiland 850 Aug 3 12:42 ExampleEtoys/ -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 76288 Jan 21 2006 KedamaPlugin2.dll -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 24631486 Aug 3 12:33 OLPC- Etoys070726.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 340 Jul 26 11:12 README -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 1077760 Sep 23 2004 Squeak.exe -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 211 Jul 26 11:36 Squeak.ini drwxr-xr-x 3 heiland heiland 102 Aug 3 12:42 Squeakland.app/ -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 19899484 Jul 26 11:37 etoys.image ~/dev/Education/OLPC/Squeakland.app/Contents/MacOS$ ll total 5136 -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 66 May 16 11:01 Squeak VM Opt.sig thanks, Randy _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Ok by using the unix command ll in a terminal session I assume you
are a bit familiar with Unix. The issue here is the executable permission is not set on the Squeak VM Opt. It should look like -rwxr-xr-x 1 johnmci staff 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt Lacking the 'x' means it won't execute. Given the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip and in the Finder if you control-click on it to get the command menu and pick 'Open with' it should say that 'BOMArchiveHelper.app' is the application used to open a ZIP file. Double clicking on the ZIP file in the macintosh Finder should also run BOMArchiveHelper to unzip the file. I suspect you used the unzip command line tool to unzip the zip file, in checking this way of unzipping the archive I found it does not restore the execute bit properly. On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Randy Heiland wrote: > Hi folks, > I am thinking of you all at Squeakfest this week and thought I'd try > to install/play with the OLPC-Etoys that was advertised on the > Squeakfest site. Downloading that .zip file and unzipping it, I > followed the terse README and dragged 'etoys.image' onto > 'Squeakland.app', but nothing happened, i.e. Etoys didn't pop up. > Still being a somewhat newbie in OSX, could someone offer up some > clues? > > Previously, I had downloaded etoys from squeakland and that ran fine > on my Mac. > > Fwiw, I'm running OSX 10.4.10 and have: > > ~/dev/Education/OLPC$ ll > total 89264 > drwxr-xr-x 25 heiland heiland 850 Aug 3 12:42 ExampleEtoys/ > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 76288 Jan 21 2006 > KedamaPlugin2.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 24631486 Aug 3 12:33 OLPC- > Etoys070726.zip > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 340 Jul 26 11:12 README > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 1077760 Sep 23 2004 Squeak.exe > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 211 Jul 26 11:36 Squeak.ini > drwxr-xr-x 3 heiland heiland 102 Aug 3 12:42 > Squeakland.app/ > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 19899484 Jul 26 11:37 etoys.image > > > ~/dev/Education/OLPC/Squeakland.app/Contents/MacOS$ ll > total 5136 > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 66 May 16 11:01 Squeak VM > Opt.sig > > thanks, Randy > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > [hidden email] > http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland -- ======================================================================== === John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== === _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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And, of course, the OLPC Etoys runs fine on a Mac or Windows OS ...
Cheers, Alan ------------ At 02:51 AM 8/6/2007, John M McIntosh wrote: >Ok by using the unix command ll in a terminal session I assume you >are a bit familiar with Unix. >The issue here is the executable permission is not set on the Squeak >VM Opt. It should look like > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 johnmci staff 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt > >Lacking the 'x' means it won't execute. > >Given the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip and in the Finder if you control-click >on it to get the command menu and pick >'Open with' it should say that 'BOMArchiveHelper.app' is the >application used to open a ZIP file. > >Double clicking on the ZIP file in the macintosh Finder should also >run BOMArchiveHelper to unzip the file. > >I suspect you used the unzip command line tool to unzip the zip file, >in checking this way of unzipping the archive I found it does not >restore the execute bit properly. > >On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Randy Heiland wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > I am thinking of you all at Squeakfest this week and thought I'd try > > to install/play with the OLPC-Etoys that was advertised on the > > Squeakfest site. Downloading that .zip file and unzipping it, I > > followed the terse README and dragged 'etoys.image' onto > > 'Squeakland.app', but nothing happened, i.e. Etoys didn't pop up. > > Still being a somewhat newbie in OSX, could someone offer up some > > clues? > > > > Previously, I had downloaded etoys from squeakland and that ran fine > > on my Mac. > > > > Fwiw, I'm running OSX 10.4.10 and have: > > > > ~/dev/Education/OLPC$ ll > > total 89264 > > drwxr-xr-x 25 heiland heiland 850 Aug 3 12:42 ExampleEtoys/ > > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 76288 Jan 21 2006 > > KedamaPlugin2.dll > > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 24631486 Aug 3 12:33 OLPC- > > Etoys070726.zip > > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 340 Jul 26 11:12 README > > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 1077760 Sep 23 2004 Squeak.exe > > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 211 Jul 26 11:36 Squeak.ini > > drwxr-xr-x 3 heiland heiland 102 Aug 3 12:42 > > Squeakland.app/ > > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 19899484 Jul 26 11:37 etoys.image > > > > > > ~/dev/Education/OLPC/Squeakland.app/Contents/MacOS$ ll > > total 5136 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt > > -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 66 May 16 11:01 Squeak VM > > Opt.sig > > > > thanks, Randy > > _______________________________________________ > > Squeakland mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland > >-- >======================================================================== >=== >John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> >Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com >======================================================================== >=== > > >_______________________________________________ >Squeakland mailing list >[hidden email] >http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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It could be the case that I screwed it up and put wrong files in
wrong way there. I tried it with my colleague's Mac once but didn't really try afterwards. BTW, can anybody compile KedamaPlugin2 for Mac? -- Yoshiki _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Randy replied:
> Thanks much John. Yes, I am an old Unix guy and therefore unzipped > it myself. I simply double-clicked on the .zip in the Finder and > things work fine now. > unzipping the zip file via a command in a terminal session results in an non-runable application, so there is nothing wrong with how you made the zip file. As for the KedamaPlugin2 if you point me to the source code and smalltalk code needed to build it I can do that for you. I note I did not include the old KedamaPlugin in the newer Squeakland.app we started shipping in May 07 become no-one could tell me if it was needed and where was the source to compile it for MacIntel machines. But I assume now you have replaced it with KedamaPlugin2 ? On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:58 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > It could be the case that I screwed it up and put wrong files in > wrong way there. I tried it with my colleague's Mac once but didn't > really try afterwards. > > BTW, can anybody compile KedamaPlugin2 for Mac? > > -- Yoshiki > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > [hidden email] > http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland -- ======================================================================== === John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== === _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Hi, John,
> I note I did not include the old KedamaPlugin in the newer > Squeakland.app we started shipping in May 07 become no-one could > tell me if it was needed and where was the source to compile it for > MacIntel machines. > > But I assume now you have replaced it with KedamaPlugin2 ? I would actually like to have both KedamaPlugin and KedamaPlugin2 included in the distributions intended for Squeaklanders. Here are the file outs for them. Thank you so much! -- Yoshiki _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Is there an alternative to dragging the image onto the app to fire up
etoys - preferably a command line equivalent? -Randy On Aug 6, 2007, at 5:51 AM, John M McIntosh wrote: > Ok by using the unix command ll in a terminal session I assume you > are a bit familiar with Unix. > The issue here is the executable permission is not set on the > Squeak VM Opt. It should look like > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 johnmci staff 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt > > Lacking the 'x' means it won't execute. > > Given the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip and in the Finder if you control- > click on it to get the command menu and pick > 'Open with' it should say that 'BOMArchiveHelper.app' is the > application used to open a ZIP file. > > Double clicking on the ZIP file in the macintosh Finder should also > run BOMArchiveHelper to unzip the file. > > I suspect you used the unzip command line tool to unzip the zip > file, in checking this way of unzipping the archive I found it does > not restore the execute bit properly. > > On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Randy Heiland wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> I am thinking of you all at Squeakfest this week and thought I'd try >> to install/play with the OLPC-Etoys that was advertised on the >> Squeakfest site. Downloading that .zip file and unzipping it, I >> followed the terse README and dragged 'etoys.image' onto >> 'Squeakland.app', but nothing happened, i.e. Etoys didn't pop up. >> Still being a somewhat newbie in OSX, could someone offer up some >> clues? >> >> Previously, I had downloaded etoys from squeakland and that ran fine >> on my Mac. >> >> Fwiw, I'm running OSX 10.4.10 and have: >> >> ~/dev/Education/OLPC$ ll >> total 89264 >> drwxr-xr-x 25 heiland heiland 850 Aug 3 12:42 ExampleEtoys/ >> -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 76288 Jan 21 2006 >> KedamaPlugin2.dll >> -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 24631486 Aug 3 12:33 OLPC- >> Etoys070726.zip >> -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 340 Jul 26 11:12 README >> -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 1077760 Sep 23 2004 Squeak.exe >> -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 211 Jul 26 11:36 Squeak.ini >> drwxr-xr-x 3 heiland heiland 102 Aug 3 12:42 >> Squeakland.app/ >> -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 19899484 Jul 26 11:37 etoys.image >> >> >> ~/dev/Education/OLPC/Squeakland.app/Contents/MacOS$ ll >> total 5136 >> -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt >> -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 66 May 16 11:01 Squeak VM >> Opt.sig >> >> thanks, Randy >> _______________________________________________ >> Squeakland mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland > > -- > ====================================================================== > ===== > John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// > www.smalltalkconsulting.com > ====================================================================== > ===== > > _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Randy you can double click the image file and that should run the
most current virtual machine you have. You can do get Info on the etoys.image in the Finder and examine and alter the Open with: tab to see which VM the *.image file is going to use. If you have multiple etoy folders, installs, Squeak VMs, and OLPC VMs/images it can be a bit confusing about which VM will be used. Sometimes the Finder has it's own ideas, although it should be using the "latest" application that understands how to open the document. Technically think of the VM as the macintosh application, and the image file as the Document. I noticed the SqueakLand.app VM on the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip contains internally a Squeakland.image which is used by default if you double click on the SqueakLand.app. You could replace that Squeakland.image with another image if needbe. Mind I suspect the Squeakland.app in the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip should not contain the Squeakland.image since I think it's replaced by the etoys.image? Er this makes the zip file 2x as large since there are two images in the zip file. If you desire a command line equivalent there are a number of choices. The easiest is to use the 'open' command open -a Squeakland.app etoys.image which says open the application Squeakland.app with the document etoys.image On Aug 10, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Randy Heiland wrote: > Is there an alternative to dragging the image onto the app to fire > up etoys - preferably a command line equivalent? > > -Randy -- ======================================================================== === John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ======================================================================== === _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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John,
> Mind I suspect the Squeakland.app in the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip should > not contain the Squeakland.image since I think it's replaced by the > etoys.image? Er this makes the zip file 2x as large since there are > two images in the zip file. Oops. There shouldn't be another image (other than etoys.image) in the zip file. For the next round, I'll make up with a zip file that follows Sophie structure, I guess. -- Yoshiki _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Just to follow up on this - is there an updated .zip to download from
somewhere? -Randy On Aug 11, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > John, > >> Mind I suspect the Squeakland.app in the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip should >> not contain the Squeakland.image since I think it's replaced by the >> etoys.image? Er this makes the zip file 2x as large since there are >> two images in the zip file. > > Oops. There shouldn't be another image (other than etoys.image) in > the zip file. For the next round, I'll make up with a zip file that > follows Sophie structure, I guess. > > -- Yoshiki > _______________________________________________ > Squeakland mailing list > [hidden email] > http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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Randy,
> Just to follow up on this - is there an updated .zip to download from > somewhere? http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/OLPC-Etoys070821.zip is the one so far. It is not yet in the form of installer, but should be usable. -- Yoshiki _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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