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Pavel Krivanek
Hi all,

I played with the OLPC system image
(http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my
feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all
GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to
offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(

You may see it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzCsOFxT-U&mode=related or here
http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html.

-- Pavel

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Re: OLPC

Andreas.Raab
Pavel Krivanek wrote:
> I played with the OLPC system image
> (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my
> feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all
> GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to
> offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(

Actually there is quite a bit of work that would be required to get
Squeak into the state where "it can do this job". About two years ago,
when we had this discussion the main points were the ability to support
various scripts (arabic, indic, thai etc) plus their appropriate input
methods, the ability to integrate existing Linux-based applications, the
availability of experienced Squeak programmers and then some. By the end
of the day you have to admit that unless you're planning to go for an
all-out Squeak approach it is more effective to use a stack like Sugar,
with Linux, X11, Cairo, Pango at the bottom and Python to integrate
various libraries and applications. For OLPC it was certainly the right
decision given their goals, experience, and deadlines.

Cheers,
   - Andreas

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Re: OLPC

Bert Freudenberg
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On Nov 26, 2006, at 1:13 , Pavel Krivanek wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I played with the OLPC system image
> (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my
> feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all
> GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to
> offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(
>
> You may see it here
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzCsOFxT-U&mode=related or here
> http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html.

Note that this video was recorded at 640x480, which is why the  
premade etoys projects do not work correctly. They require at least  
1024x768 (the actual laptop runs at 1200x900).

- Bert -



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Re: OLPC

Klaus D. Witzel
You can see Sugar in action at the YouTube'd link on Friday's ./

- http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/24/1455220

Find a "Slightly better demo of the OLPC User Interface" when clicking the  
link "A video demo of the interface". Squeak+Etoys, here they come :)

Dunno whether this video had been mentioned before in squeak-dev.

/Klaus

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:43:57 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

> On Nov 26, 2006, at 1:13 , Pavel Krivanek wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I played with the OLPC system image
>> (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my
>> feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all
>> GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't able to
>> offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(
>>
>> You may see it here
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzCsOFxT-U&mode=related or here
>> http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html.
>
> Note that this video was recorded at 640x480, which is why the premade  
> etoys projects do not work correctly. They require at least 1024x768  
> (the actual laptop runs at 1200x900).
>
> - Bert -
>
>
>
>



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Re: OLPC

Bert Freudenberg
That's the same video as

        http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html

just in youtube's typical awful quality.

- Bert -

On Nov 26, 2006, at 12:11 , Klaus D. Witzel wrote:

> You can see Sugar in action at the YouTube'd link on Friday's ./
>
> - http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/24/1455220
>
> Find a "Slightly better demo of the OLPC User Interface" when  
> clicking the link "A video demo of the interface". Squeak+Etoys,  
> here they come :)
>
> Dunno whether this video had been mentioned before in squeak-dev.
>
> /Klaus
>
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:43:57 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> On Nov 26, 2006, at 1:13 , Pavel Krivanek wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I played with the OLPC system image
>>> (http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/wordpress/?p=251) now and my
>>> feelings are quite puzzled - first of all, it seems like almost all
>>> GUI can be done using Squeak and it's big loss that we aren't  
>>> able to
>>> offer Squeak in state when it can do this job :-(
>>>
>>> You may see it here
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzCsOFxT-U&mode=related or here
>>> http://www.ivr-usability.com/olpc/olpc.html.
>>
>> Note that this video was recorded at 640x480, which is why the  
>> premade etoys projects do not work correctly. They require at  
>> least 1024x768 (the actual laptop runs at 1200x900).
>>
>> - Bert -
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>