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dcorking

[OT] Extremely cheap ARM handhelds was Raspberry Pi

tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
> As an aside, there are literally dozens, possibly hundreds of extremely cheap ARM based tablets and laptops now
> available. How does a $70 10" screen ARM CortexA9 laptop grab you? Or a $46 7" tablet? Or perhaps a
> MacBookAir clone 13" screen A9 laptop?

Where do fans of these devices post reviews/comparisons/supplier suggestions?

(I read about these a couple of years ago, thinking of installing an
OLPC clone. At the time the reviews suggested those available in the
UK, pre-installed with Windows CE or equivalent, were desperately
underpowered. We ended up with a more expensive but more capable Intel
Atom netbook.)

David

Chris Cunnington

Re: [OT] Extremely cheap ARM handhelds was Raspberry Pi

On 2012-11-08 1:41 PM, David Corking wrote:

> tim Rowledge <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> As an aside, there are literally dozens, possibly hundreds of extremely cheap ARM based tablets and laptops now
>> available. How does a $70 10" screen ARM CortexA9 laptop grab you? Or a $46 7" tablet? Or perhaps a
>> MacBookAir clone 13" screen A9 laptop?
> Where do fans of these devices post reviews/comparisons/supplier suggestions?
>
> (I read about these a couple of years ago, thinking of installing an
> OLPC clone. At the time the reviews suggested those available in the
> UK, pre-installed with Windows CE or equivalent, were desperately
> underpowered. We ended up with a more expensive but more capable Intel
> Atom netbook.)
>
> David
>

http://armdevices.net/

This might be a start. It has a reviews link.

Chris

dcorking

Re: [OT] Extremely cheap ARM handhelds was Raspberry Pi

Great, thanks Chris. I guess these are the kind of trade sample
devices that Tim cited on Wednesday:

http://armdevices.net/2012/11/05/wabook-arm-powered-laptops-71-10-1-1024x600-51-7-800x480/
http://armdevices.net/2012/10/29/overview-of-the-latestbest-7-tablets-out-of-shenzhen-china/
http://armdevices.net/members-store/

For better or worse, it sounds like the trade is plumping for Android
over the Debian Linux of the Raspberry Pi. Does Android need a
'jailbreak' to run Squeak?

Thanks for the inspiration. David

p.s. It sounds like I might spend on a new jacket to go with a new
toy. I gave up jackets over a decade ago.

Casey Ransberger-2

Re: [OT] Extremely cheap ARM handhelds was Raspberry Pi

I don't get online much these days, so I felt kind of lucky to catch this thread.

My two cents: aim at devices which ship with the cleanest (read: less vendor crapware preinstalled) and make *absolutely certain* that the device supports consumer side loading of apps (read: you're allowed to install the VM.)

I've heard that in spite of being Android based, Kindle Fire does not allow loading apps from Google's app store, much less side loading; you have to get all apps from Amazon's store. This is the one of the problems we encounter with iOS, and what we need to avoid like the plague.

That and we have to find some decent tablet hardware which meets the above criteria. Android isn't really a requirement, I'm going to throw out another post with an idea about that in a minute.

Casey

On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:19 AM, David Corking <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Great, thanks Chris. I guess these are the kind of trade sample
> devices that Tim cited on Wednesday:
>
> http://armdevices.net/2012/11/05/wabook-arm-powered-laptops-71-10-1-1024x600-51-7-800x480/
> http://armdevices.net/2012/10/29/overview-of-the-latestbest-7-tablets-out-of-shenzhen-china/
> http://armdevices.net/members-store/
>
> For better or worse, it sounds like the trade is plumping for Android
> over the Debian Linux of the Raspberry Pi. Does Android need a
> 'jailbreak' to run Squeak?
>
> Thanks for the inspiration. David
>
> p.s. It sounds like I might spend on a new jacket to go with a new
> toy. I gave up jackets over a decade ago.
>

Bert Freudenberg

Re: [OT] Extremely cheap ARM handhelds was Raspberry Pi

In reply to this post by dcorking

On 2012-11-09, at 10:19, David Corking <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, but it's built into Android, you don't have to "hack" it. In system settings you can enable "untrusted sources" (which lets you break out of the walled garden, with many of the security implications of jailbreaking).

- Bert -

openslateproj

Re: [OT] Extremely cheap ARM handhelds was Raspberry Pi

In reply to this post by Casey Ransberger-2

"... what we need to avoid like the plague."

Yes. See also "The Coming Civil War over General Purpose Computing" by

Cory Doctorow

http://boingboing.net/2012/08/23/civilwar.html

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Casey Ransberger <[hidden email]> wrote:

I don't get online much these days, so I felt kind of lucky to catch this thread.

My two cents: aim at devices which ship with the cleanest (read: less vendor crapware preinstalled) and make *absolutely certain* that the device supports consumer side loading of apps (read: you're allowed to install the VM.)

I've heard that in spite of being Android based, Kindle Fire does not allow loading apps from Google's app store, much less side loading; you have to get all apps from Amazon's store. This is the one of the problems we encounter with iOS, and what we need to avoid like the plague.

That and we have to find some decent tablet hardware which meets the above criteria. Android isn't really a requirement, I'm going to throw out another post with an idea about that in a minute.

Casey

On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:19 AM, David Corking <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Great, thanks Chris. I guess these are the kind of trade sample
> devices that Tim cited on Wednesday:
>
> http://armdevices.net/2012/11/05/wabook-arm-powered-laptops-71-10-1-1024x600-51-7-800x480/
> http://armdevices.net/2012/10/29/overview-of-the-latestbest-7-tablets-out-of-shenzhen-china/
> http://armdevices.net/members-store/
>
> For better or worse, it sounds like the trade is plumping for Android
> over the Debian Linux of the Raspberry Pi. Does Android need a
> 'jailbreak' to run Squeak?
>
> Thanks for the inspiration. David
>
> p.s. It sounds like I might spend on a new jacket to go with a new
> toy. I gave up jackets over a decade ago.
>

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